WHAT ABOUT BOSTON?

[JustinT]

-Look at (Radio-locator.com) Look up "Anchorage, Alaska"
-They have a Hip Hop Station KFAT 92.9, Rhythmic AC KMVV 104.9, and Smooth Jazz KNIK 105.7. Anchorage has both Rhythmic AC and Smooth Jazz. Of all the cities in United States, Anchorage, Alaska has both Rhythmic AC and Smooth Jazz.
What about Boston?
It's a shame that we in Boston don't have either. It's very sad what happened to Star 93.7, and W I L D 1090am. It's very sad.
All I'm saying is Entercom should switch 93.7. Put 93.7 (Funkytown 93.7), and put MIKE FM on 93.7 HD 2.
My second idea is they should change 97.7 to Smooth Jazz. If they do that, the listenners in Boston will be happy for that.

or

Greater Media should put 92.9 to Smooth Jazz. This would be the best station to have Smooth Jazz on, because their signal is EXCELENT in and around this part of Boston, Massachusetts.

This can be answered pretty simply:

1) Smooth jazz (actually, Smooth AC now) is dying a slow death. In some markets, Chicago and Phoenix particularly, the format does very well, but it's really not expanding further. With the consideration that the long-gone smooth jazz stations in Boston did poorly (96.9 WCDJ, 99.1 WPLM-FM, 99.5 WOAZ - the namesake of which, KOAI, was pulled last year, and 96.9 WSJZ), there's next to no chance that SJ is returning to Boston anytime soon.

2) Rhythmic AC did poorly on Star 93.7, which can be blamed on a lack of consistancy in that the station changed direction nearly every 6 months, always with a blend of "Jammin' Oldies", current dance hits, CHR, and hot AC. Add that to the horrific ratings of "Movin'" outlets around the country, and you'll see that that isn't happening either.

These two formats aren't happening. Something else urban-oriented could be. But the problem remains that due to the presence of nearby markets, Boston is at a severe lack of FM signals, and the owners of the market's least-successful FMs are either married to their format (Northeast, Plymouth Rock, Nassau, hell even Entercom's 97.7) or seeming to hold onto a crappy format in the hope that something better will come along (Greater Media). Outside of Clear Channel and CBS Radio, nobody in the market would know where to begin in terms of starting an urban-formatted radio station. Clear Channel already owns the urban audience as well as the pop audience, so they're not going to change. And despite the slightly-fuzzy future at WBCN, CBS' Boston cluster isn't doing too bad.

The situation Boston is experiencing right now reminds me of what took place in Hartford back in 2001. At the time, the message boards were crowded with posts about how much a rhythmic CHR/urban was needed in the market (a la the Boston board). An AM station, 910 JAMZ, was pulling colossal ratings for anyone playing rap on AM (a la the classic soul on WILD 1090). The market was accumulating pirate stations as well. Finally, CBS pulled the plug on a struggling Jammin' Oldies knockoff to launch R/CHR "Hot 93.7." The result? The station debuted #1 12+.

By no means do I think that a competing R/CHR to Jam'n or an urban AC in Boston could debut #1, but it could pose a serious threat. WBZ 1030 has often been the #1 station in Boston 12+, and the station sounds like it deserves that ranking. WJMN has been the #1 station 12+ in Boston, and while the morning show is very strong, the station is vulnerable during nearly any other daypart. They're winning by default - there's nothing else with a beat to listen to.

But given the status of the market, whatever company likely goes for it will be trying a format going after an audience that none of their other stations share. Regardless, it's clear to me that there's money to be made if a strong urban AC or R/CHR hits the air.

 

[kms575]

...just what rapking needs, another sounding board!

 

[MR. JAROME_CALVIN]

-Look at (Radio-locator.com) Look up "Anchorage, Alaska"
-They have a Hip Hop Station KFAT 92.9, Rhythmic AC KMVV 104.9, and Smooth Jazz KNIK 105.7. Anchorage has both Rhythmic AC and Smooth Jazz. Of all the cities in United States, Anchorage, Alaska has both Rhythmic AC and Smooth Jazz.
What about Boston?
It's a shame that we in Boston don't have either. It's very sad what happened to Star 93.7, and W I L D 1090am. It's very sad.
All I'm saying is Entercom should switch 93.7. Put 93.7 (Funkytown 93.7), and put MIKE FM on 93.7 HD 2.
My second idea is they should change 97.7 to Smooth Jazz. If they do that, the listenners in Boston will be happy for that.

or

Greater Media should put 92.9 to Smooth Jazz. This would be the best station to have Smooth Jazz on, because their signal is EXCELENT in and around this part of Boston, Massachusetts.

This can be answered pretty simply:

1) Smooth jazz (actually, Smooth AC now) is dying a slow death. In some markets, Chicago and Phoenix particularly, the format does very well, but it's really not expanding further. With the consideration that the long-gone smooth jazz stations in Boston did poorly (96.9 WCDJ, 99.1 WPLM-FM, 99.5 WOAZ - the namesake of which, KOAI, was pulled last year, and 96.9 WSJZ), there's next to no chance that SJ is returning to Boston anytime soon.

2) Rhythmic AC did poorly on Star 93.7, which can be blamed on a lack of consistancy in that the station changed direction nearly every 6 months, always with a blend of "Jammin' Oldies", current dance hits, CHR, and hot AC. Add that to the horrific ratings of "Movin'" outlets around the country, and you'll see that that isn't happening either.

These two formats aren't happening. Something else urban-oriented could be. But the problem remains that due to the presence of nearby markets, Boston is at a severe lack of FM signals, and the owners of the market's least-successful FMs are either married to their format (Northeast, Plymouth Rock, Nassau, hell even Entercom's 97.7) or seeming to hold onto a crappy format in the hope that something better will come along (Greater Media). Outside of Clear Channel and CBS Radio, nobody in the market would know where to begin in terms of starting an urban-formatted radio station. Clear Channel already owns the urban audience as well as the pop audience, so they're not going to change. And despite the slightly-fuzzy future at WBCN, CBS' Boston cluster isn't doing too bad.

The situation Boston is experiencing right now reminds me of what took place in Hartford back in 2001. At the time, the message boards were crowded with posts about how much a rhythmic CHR/urban was needed in the market (a la the Boston board). An AM station, 910 JAMZ, was pulling colossal ratings for anyone playing rap on AM (a la the classic soul on WILD 1090). The market was accumulating pirate stations as well. Finally, CBS pulled the plug on a struggling Jammin' Oldies knockoff to launch R/CHR "Hot 93.7." The result? The station debuted #1 12+.

By no means do I think that a competing R/CHR to Jam'n or an urban AC in Boston could debut #1, but it could pose a serious threat. WBZ 1030 has often been the #1 station in Boston 12+, and the station sounds like it deserves that ranking. WJMN has been the #1 station 12+ in Boston, and while the morning show is very strong, the station is vulnerable during nearly any other daypart. They're winning by default - there's nothing else with a beat to listen to.

But given the status of the market, whatever company likely goes for it will be trying a format going after an audience that none of their other stations share. Regardless, it's clear to me that there's money to be made if a strong urban AC or R/CHR hits the air.

so that's what Boston needs to do on one of those stations as mentioned (93.7, 97.7, or 92.9) On one of these stations, they should put on (ABC Radio Network-The Touch) on one of those stations. The best station being 92.9 because they have a strong signal in and around this part of Boston, Massachusetts.

 

[mistermicrophone]

so that's what Boston needs to do on one of those stations as mentioned (93.7, 97.7, or 92.9) On one of these stations, they should put on (ABC Radio Network-The Touch) on one of those stations. The best station being 92.9 because they have a strong signal in and around this part of Boston, Massachusetts.

Nothing NEEDS to be done!!! You'd LIKE it....but it doesn't NEED to be done. Why don't you get it?? Or are you like Rapking, just playing clueless to get under the collective skin of the board?

 

[MR. JAROME_CALVIN]

so that's what Boston needs to do on one of those stations as mentioned (93.7, 97.7, or 92.9) On one of these stations, they should put on (ABC Radio Network-The Touch) on one of those stations. The best station being 92.9 because they have a strong signal in and around this part of Boston, Massachusetts.

Nothing NEEDS to be done!!! You'd LIKE it....but it doesn't NEED to be done. Why don't you get it?? Or are you like Rapking, just playing clueless to get under the collective skin of the board?

You don't say bad things about me!!! I don't know you, you don't know me. I'm just putting my ideas that need to be done here in Boston. That's why so many Pirate Radio Stations in Boston because of the sad loss of W I L D and Star 93.7
I'm just saying my ideas. I don't hurt no one. You don't know me, I don't know you. Keep your bad thoughts to yourself.

 

[mistermicrophone]

so that's what Boston needs to do on one of those stations as mentioned (93.7, 97.7, or 92.9) On one of these stations, they should put on (ABC Radio Network-The Touch) on one of those stations. The best station being 92.9 because they have a strong signal in and around this part of Boston, Massachusetts.

Nothing NEEDS to be done!!! You'd LIKE it....but it doesn't NEED to be done. Why don't you get it?? Or are you like Rapking, just playing clueless to get under the collective skin of the board?

You don't say bad things about me!!! I don't know you, you don't know me. I'm just putting my ideas that need to be done here in Boston. That's why so many Pirate Radio Stations in Boston because of the sad loss of W I L D and Star 93.7
I'm just saying my ideas. I don't hurt no one. You don't know me, I don't know you. Keep your bad thoughts to yourself.

Then quit saying that stations NEED to be on the air. Nothing NEEDS to be on the air. It's want you want, but that doesn't make it a NEED. Do you comprehend that? In your little dream world, you'd flip 92.9 because it has the best signal for what you want, but I happen to like that station...so...it NEEDS to stay on!! How's that?

 

[MUGrad]

so that's what Boston needs to do on one of those stations as mentioned (93.7, 97.7, or 92.9) On one of these stations, they should put on (ABC Radio Network-The Touch) on one of those stations. The best station being 92.9 because they have a strong signal in and around this part of Boston, Massachusetts.

Nothing NEEDS to be done!!! You'd LIKE it....but it doesn't NEED to be done. Why don't you get it?? Or are you like Rapking, just playing clueless to get under the collective skin of the board?

You don't say bad things about me!!! I don't know you, you don't know me. I'm just putting my ideas that need to be done here in Boston. That's why so many Pirate Radio Stations in Boston because of the sad loss of W I L D and Star 93.7
I'm just saying my ideas. I don't hurt no one. You don't know me, I don't know you. Keep your bad thoughts to yourself.

No insults here. Just repeating the statement at hand.

Boston doesn't need anything. Boston doesn't need urban a/c, it doesn't need rock, it doesn't need sports talk, it doesn't need anything.

You want urban a/c. You can buy an iPod. Face reality, urban a/c has been tried and failed in Boston. Doesn't mean there isn't a good number of people that would love to listen, just that no station in Boston is likely to put it on in the foreseeable future. The posters here have illustrated the ins and outs of that already. Constant harping on this forum won't change things. Constant emails to radio execs in Boston might. Why not try that instead?

 

[nd2023]

A licensed station may not want to flip to urban AC because Touch 106.1 could be ruining that format's reputation. Advertisers know that Touch 106.1 is where they can advertise on an Urban AC station for cheap, compared to a licensed urban AC. If a licensed station does flip to urban AC, 106.1 will probably flip formats instead of shut down.

 

[dumber than a box of hair]

You don't say bad things about me!!! I don't know you, you don't know me. I'm just putting my ideas that need to be done here in Boston. That's why so many Pirate Radio Stations in Boston because of the sad loss of W I L D and Star 93.7
I'm just saying my ideas. I don't hurt no one. You don't know me, I don't know you. Keep your bad thoughts to yourself.

When you post on a message board, you leave yourself open for comments on what you post...and comments will run the gamut. Stop being so thin-skinned. It's a message board, not life. People are entitled to their opinions and their thoughts, and they're not required to check with you before posting them.

mistermicrophone and MUGrad are 100% correct. No one NEEDS a radio station. In the grand scheme of things, radio doesn't rank right up there with air, food, water, warmth and shelter. It's just not that important.

 

[rapking]

You don't say bad things about me!!! I don't know you, you don't know me. I'm just putting my ideas that need to be done here in Boston. That's why so many Pirate Radio Stations in Boston because of the sad loss of W I L D and Star 93.7
I'm just saying my ideas. I don't hurt no one. You don't know me, I don't know you. Keep your bad thoughts to yourself.

When you post on a message board, you leave yourself open for comments on what you post...and comments will run the gamut. Stop being so thin-skinned. It's a message board, not life. People are entitled to their opinions and their thoughts, and they're not required to check with you before posting them.

mistermicrophone and MUGrad are 100% correct. No one NEEDS a radio station. In the grand scheme of things, radio doesn't rank right up there with air, food, water, warmth and shelter. It's just not that important.

Boston Needs a Urban A/C ! Boston also needs a Good Rock station ( to many Awful Rock junk here)! Food, Water, Section 8 and Welfare, Who care's ! This is a radio board !

 

[rapking]

so that's what Boston needs to do on one of those stations as mentioned (93.7, 97.7, or 92.9) On one of these stations, they should put on (ABC Radio Network-The Touch) on one of those stations. The best station being 92.9 because they have a strong signal in and around this part of Boston, Massachusetts.

Nothing NEEDS to be done!!! You'd LIKE it....but it doesn't NEED to be done. Why don't you get it?? Or are you like Rapking, just playing clueless to get under the collective skin of the board?

You don't say bad things about me!!! I don't know you, you don't know me. I'm just putting my ideas that need to be done here in Boston. That's why so many Pirate Radio Stations in Boston because of the sad loss of W I L D and Star 93.7
I'm just saying my ideas. I don't hurt no one. You don't know me, I don't know you. Keep your bad thoughts to yourself.

I am with you LAUROJRM, Keep posting your Ideas, Dont let these " PC Knuckle Head PD'S ", get you down.

 

[MUGrad]

Boston doesn't need anything. Boston doesn't need urban a/c, it doesn't need rock, it doesn't need sports talk, it doesn't need anything.

You want urban a/c. You can buy an iPod...

...Constant harping on this forum won't change things. Constant emails to radio execs in Boston might. Why not try that instead?

Quoting rather than wasting the time to type again.

 

[kms575]

so that's what Boston needs to do on one of those stations as mentioned (93.7, 97.7, or 92.9) On one of these stations, they should put on (ABC Radio Network-The Touch) on one of those stations. The best station being 92.9 because they have a strong signal in and around this part of Boston, Massachusetts.

Nothing NEEDS to be done!!! You'd LIKE it....but it doesn't NEED to be done. Why don't you get it?? Or are you like Rapking, just playing clueless to get under the collective skin of the board?

You don't say bad things about me!!! I don't know you, you don't know me. I'm just putting my ideas that need to be done here in Boston. That's why so many Pirate Radio Stations in Boston because of the sad loss of W I L D and Star 93.7
I'm just saying my ideas. I don't hurt no one. You don't know me, I don't know you. Keep your bad thoughts to yourself.

I am with you LAUROJRM, Keep posting your Ideas, Dont let these " PC Knuckle Head PD'S ", get you down.

Not everyone on here is one of the " PC Knuckle Head PD'S " you mention. There are others like me who get tired of you harping on about the same thing time and time again. We get it, you don't like Boston radio. Move or buy an iPod.

 

[MR. JAROME_CALVIN]

so that's what Boston needs to do on one of those stations as mentioned (93.7, 97.7, or 92.9) On one of these stations, they should put on (ABC Radio Network-The Touch) on one of those stations. The best station being 92.9 because they have a strong signal in and around this part of Boston, Massachusetts.

Nothing NEEDS to be done!!! You'd LIKE it....but it doesn't NEED to be done. Why don't you get it?? Or are you like Rapking, just playing clueless to get under the collective skin of the board?

You don't say bad things about me!!! I don't know you, you don't know me. I'm just putting my ideas that need to be done here in Boston. That's why so many Pirate Radio Stations in Boston because of the sad loss of W I L D and Star 93.7
I'm just saying my ideas. I don't hurt no one. You don't know me, I don't know you. Keep your bad thoughts to yourself.

Then quit saying that stations NEED to be on the air. Nothing NEEDS to be on the air. It's want you want, but that doesn't make it a NEED. Do you comprehend that? In your little dream world, you'd flip 92.9 because it has the best signal for what you want, but I happen to like that station...so...it NEEDS to stay on!! How's that?

this is an ignorant attitude you have.
All I do is put my ideas here, not hurt no one

 

[MR. JAROME_CALVIN]

so that's what Boston needs to do on one of those stations as mentioned (93.7, 97.7, or 92.9) On one of these stations, they should put on (ABC Radio Network-The Touch) on one of those stations. The best station being 92.9 because they have a strong signal in and around this part of Boston, Massachusetts.

Nothing NEEDS to be done!!! You'd LIKE it....but it doesn't NEED to be done. Why don't you get it?? Or are you like Rapking, just playing clueless to get under the collective skin of the board?

You don't say bad things about me!!! I don't know you, you don't know me. I'm just putting my ideas that need to be done here in Boston. That's why so many Pirate Radio Stations in Boston because of the sad loss of W I L D and Star 93.7
I'm just saying my ideas. I don't hurt no one. You don't know me, I don't know you. Keep your bad thoughts to yourself.

No insults here. Just repeating the statement at hand.

Boston doesn't need anything. Boston doesn't need urban a/c, it doesn't need rock, it doesn't need sports talk, it doesn't need anything.

You want urban a/c. You can buy an iPod. Face reality, urban a/c has been tried and failed in Boston. Doesn't mean there isn't a good number of people that would love to listen, just that no station in Boston is likely to put it on in the foreseeable future. The posters here have illustrated the ins and outs of that already. Constant harping on this forum won't change things. Constant emails to radio execs in Boston might. Why not try that instead?

see, this is the (good) responce I like, honest, simple, and no bad words to anyone here
thank you
Yes, I emailed radio management, and I will keep trying and not give up
It hasn't worked for some reasons, so with my ideas, something's about to turn up, some time, you wll here will be surprised when you hear one of these formats again here in Boston, then you will remember me
thank you

 

[MR. JAROME_CALVIN]

You don't say bad things about me!!! I don't know you, you don't know me. I'm just putting my ideas that need to be done here in Boston. That's why so many Pirate Radio Stations in Boston because of the sad loss of W I L D and Star 93.7
I'm just saying my ideas. I don't hurt no one. You don't know me, I don't know you. Keep your bad thoughts to yourself.

When you post on a message board, you leave yourself open for comments on what you post...and comments will run the gamut. Stop being so thin-skinned. It's a message board, not life. People are entitled to their opinions and their thoughts, and they're not required to check with you before posting them.

mistermicrophone and MUGrad are 100% correct. No one NEEDS a radio station. In the grand scheme of things, radio doesn't rank right up there with air, food, water, warmth and shelter. It's just not that important.

Boston Needs a Urban A/C ! Boston also needs a Good Rock station ( to many Awful Rock junk here)! Food, Water, Section 8 and Welfare, Who care's ! This is a radio board !

Rapking is right on this, this is a radio board

 

[ciao99]

-Look at (Radio-locator.com) Look up "Anchorage, Alaska"
-They have a Hip Hop Station KFAT 92.9, Rhythmic AC KMVV 104.9, and Smooth Jazz KNIK 105.7. Anchorage has both Rhythmic AC and Smooth Jazz. Of all the cities in United States, Anchorage, Alaska has both Rhythmic AC and Smooth Jazz.
What about Boston?
It's a shame that we in Boston don't have either. It's very sad what happened to Star 93.7, and W I L D 1090am. It's very sad.
All I'm saying is Entercom should switch 93.7. Put 93.7 (Funkytown 93.7), and put MIKE FM on 93.7 HD 2.
My second idea is they should change 97.7 to Smooth Jazz. If they do that, the listenners in Boston will be happy for that.




or




Greater Media should put 92.9 to Smooth Jazz. This would be the best station to have Smooth Jazz on, because their signal is EXCELENT in and around this part of Boston, Massachusetts.


Boston radio management/programming should look into these two options and should highly consider them.. It's a shame and very sad to seee Boston without those two formats. Take a few hours out of your days (free time) see what is on the Boston dial. Nothing too good to listen to, mostly all stations play simular or the same music. Stop, and think how you would feel (a person who like Smooth Jazz, or a person who likesOldschool r&B) and can't hear both 24/7. Think how would you feel if you was that listenner and can never find that radio station here in Boston.
Think of these listenners who don't have computer access, nor can not afford to get an HD radio. Think of these things highly!!!!
It's a shame and very sad not having these stations here in Boston.


(to all the readers out there) if you have nothing good to say here, please keep all bad things to yourself? No need to put no one down here.
I'm just putting my say and thoughts


Thank you for your time.

Thanks for your posts Laurojrm. The naysayers will say it can never be done in Boston. I say keep fighting the good fight!