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What about My Network TV & the CW not getting complete coverage around the US?
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Re: What about My Network TV & the CW not getting complete coverage around the US?
I haven't heard for sure about my area (Jackson, TN), but Charter has a WB 100+ station, and I'd assume it will be there, especially since WJKT 16, which had been the UPN station, has gone to Fox.
Not that I'll be watching much of the CW, but I could care less if MNTV has an affiliate in Jackson. THat will be the biggest waste of a network ever.
I haven't heard for sure about my area (Jackson, TN), but Charter has a WB 100+ station, and I'd assume it will be there, especially since WJKT 16, which had been the UPN station, has gone to Fox.
Not that I'll be watching much of the CW, but I could care less if MNTV has an affiliate in Jackson. THat will be the biggest waste of a network ever.
Re: What about My Network TV & the CW not getting complete coverage around the U
"My" biggest question is how will most viewers see MyNetwork in the markets where it's on a digital subchannel with no cable carriage? Is cable suddenly going to start carrying more digital channels? Will you have to have digital cable to get MyNetwork in these markets?
Inquiring "My"nds want to know.
"My" biggest question is how will most viewers see MyNetwork in the markets where it's on a digital subchannel with no cable carriage? Is cable suddenly going to start carrying more digital channels? Will you have to have digital cable to get MyNetwork in these markets?
Inquiring "My"nds want to know.
Re: What about My Network TV & the CW not getting complete coverage around the US?
Most cable companies are allowing a digital sub-channel station to be added to the tier (analog) of offerings.
I know in the Salisbury market, they are re-adjusting their lineup because of the UPN station changed over to FOX. The WB 100+ station (on Ch. 3) is staying put with the new programming of the CW coming Sept. 18th.
Now, if most cable companies would allow additional LPTV's to join the fray without any hassle that would be great too.
I think that all cable companies should allow LPTV's onto their system without any debate. If you have a license to broadcast, then you should be able to broadcast on cable. No matter if the programming is whatever! As long as it is in the public interest.
Most cable companies are allowing a digital sub-channel station to be added to the tier (analog) of offerings.
I know in the Salisbury market, they are re-adjusting their lineup because of the UPN station changed over to FOX. The WB 100+ station (on Ch. 3) is staying put with the new programming of the CW coming Sept. 18th.
Now, if most cable companies would allow additional LPTV's to join the fray without any hassle that would be great too.
I think that all cable companies should allow LPTV's onto their system without any debate. If you have a license to broadcast, then you should be able to broadcast on cable. No matter if the programming is whatever! As long as it is in the public interest.
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Nertz!
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Re: What about My Network TV & the CW not getting complete coverage around the U
Wouldn't there be some techincal problems with putting LPTV signals on cable, like getting the signal to the head end?
Wouldn't there be some techincal problems with putting LPTV signals on cable, like getting the signal to the head end?
Re: What about My Network TV & the CW not getting complete coverage around the U
The cable companies I've seen, especially Comcast, seem to be putting digital sub channels onto the upper digital tiers, therefore requiring customers to rent the digital box (and pay more) in order to get them.
The cable companies I've seen, especially Comcast, seem to be putting digital sub channels onto the upper digital tiers, therefore requiring customers to rent the digital box (and pay more) in order to get them.
Re: What about My Network TV & the CW not getting complete coverage around the US?
That's interesting that the Salisbury market now has a Fox affiliate on a CBS station's subchannel. It seemed like subchannels were only going to UPN and WB prior, and filling one of the big 4 coverage through subchannels wasn't happening, maybe to protect nearby [but out of DMA] station's claims for the market.
Does this bar DirecTV and Dish from offering distant networks of Fox into that area? Probably Fox's main reason for granting an affiliation.
According to listings, the cable systems in the Maryland side still carries WTTG 5, and those in the southern DE side carry WTTG and some WTXF, even with the new Fox 21 by WBOC. According to tv.yahoo - FOX 21 is carried in Central DE [Kent County] as well, where it's Philadelphia DMA.
Sinclair's Baltimore station WBFF has no claim to the Salisbury market, though - even though Baltimore's WBAL seems to have primary claim of Sussex County, DE and Salisbury market [Comcast carries WBAL-DT for HDTV in Salisbury]. Primary, but not exclusive - sorry Hearst. I think Hearst's WESH 2 [Daytona Beach, FL] has an exclusive claim for the Gainesville, FL markets NBC rights; The NBC network can't permit a Gainesville station NBC subchannel affiliation.
The only big 4 network needed in Salisbury is an NBC affiliate, as WBAL is still over 60 miles away and more from most of the market.
If only this could happen, it'd be a win-win for local residents, advertisers and profit generating for the station group:
WPPX 61-Wilmington, DE gets reallocated to Dover, DE (40 miles south), changes calls to WDEL; similar to the move of WNPA 19 (Johnstown, PA to Jeannette, PA).
Dover, DE would be 54 air miles to Salisbury, 30-35 miles to Sussex County DE, and a lot closer than WBAL, WRC, WCAU or WAVY to all the central/southern DE points and the Salisbury MD DMA points. WDEL gets NBC affiliation. This happens as Hearst Argyle acquires the station from Paxson, and they can affiliate with NBC, as Hearst has an NBC claim into the South DE side of the market from WBAL's coverage. Similar to Meredith Corp. being able to put CBS programming on WSHM-LP, as they had the programming rights from WFSB's coverage which blanketed Springfield, MA.
WBAL is dropped in DE, and WDEL services like WMUR services New Hampshire. As WMUR makes far more profit than the Pax affiliate in Boston or Philly, the Delaware network affiliate station would make far more profit than the Pax that services Philly - making the city of license change worth the move.
Station is carried throughout Delaware, and Salisbury market, but dropped in NJ and PA counties. In Wilmington (New Castle Co.), station runs alternate programming, but keeps its news, but station programming differs not to conflict with NBC 10's coverage of network NBC and syndicated programming from the Philadephia stations which would be too closeby. {similar to WGN)
From the sale of WPPX, Pax purchases WMCN-DT to continue Pax/ i TV service for the Philadelphia market, to not have a hole in national coverage.
radioboss said:
That's interesting that the Salisbury market now has a Fox affiliate on a CBS station's subchannel. It seemed like subchannels were only going to UPN and WB prior, and filling one of the big 4 coverage through subchannels wasn't happening, maybe to protect nearby [but out of DMA] station's claims for the market.
Does this bar DirecTV and Dish from offering distant networks of Fox into that area? Probably Fox's main reason for granting an affiliation.
According to listings, the cable systems in the Maryland side still carries WTTG 5, and those in the southern DE side carry WTTG and some WTXF, even with the new Fox 21 by WBOC. According to tv.yahoo - FOX 21 is carried in Central DE [Kent County] as well, where it's Philadelphia DMA.
Sinclair's Baltimore station WBFF has no claim to the Salisbury market, though - even though Baltimore's WBAL seems to have primary claim of Sussex County, DE and Salisbury market [Comcast carries WBAL-DT for HDTV in Salisbury]. Primary, but not exclusive - sorry Hearst. I think Hearst's WESH 2 [Daytona Beach, FL] has an exclusive claim for the Gainesville, FL markets NBC rights; The NBC network can't permit a Gainesville station NBC subchannel affiliation.
The only big 4 network needed in Salisbury is an NBC affiliate, as WBAL is still over 60 miles away and more from most of the market.
If only this could happen, it'd be a win-win for local residents, advertisers and profit generating for the station group:
WPPX 61-Wilmington, DE gets reallocated to Dover, DE (40 miles south), changes calls to WDEL; similar to the move of WNPA 19 (Johnstown, PA to Jeannette, PA).
Dover, DE would be 54 air miles to Salisbury, 30-35 miles to Sussex County DE, and a lot closer than WBAL, WRC, WCAU or WAVY to all the central/southern DE points and the Salisbury MD DMA points. WDEL gets NBC affiliation. This happens as Hearst Argyle acquires the station from Paxson, and they can affiliate with NBC, as Hearst has an NBC claim into the South DE side of the market from WBAL's coverage. Similar to Meredith Corp. being able to put CBS programming on WSHM-LP, as they had the programming rights from WFSB's coverage which blanketed Springfield, MA.
WBAL is dropped in DE, and WDEL services like WMUR services New Hampshire. As WMUR makes far more profit than the Pax affiliate in Boston or Philly, the Delaware network affiliate station would make far more profit than the Pax that services Philly - making the city of license change worth the move.
Station is carried throughout Delaware, and Salisbury market, but dropped in NJ and PA counties. In Wilmington (New Castle Co.), station runs alternate programming, but keeps its news, but station programming differs not to conflict with NBC 10's coverage of network NBC and syndicated programming from the Philadephia stations which would be too closeby. {similar to WGN)
From the sale of WPPX, Pax purchases WMCN-DT to continue Pax/ i TV service for the Philadelphia market, to not have a hole in national coverage.
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Re: What about My Network TV & the CW not getting complete coverage around the U
That and ca$h...most of these LPTV stations like to just flip the bird on and leave it
Nertz! said:
That and ca$h...most of these LPTV stations like to just flip the bird on and leave it
Re: What about My Network TV & the CW not getting complete coverage around the US?
Well, for one thing; NBC will not allow a station in the Salisbury/Ocean City, MD market.
I KNOW. I tried with my LPTV station in Delaware. WRC - 4 in DC has the rights for the Salisbury market. Even though, they are not carried in DE on the cable systems. WBAL and WCAU are carried on the cable giving viewers a NBC choice. The President/GM of WRC will not give up this territory. NBC backs him up. Because it's a NBC owned/operated station.
There are only i and My Network TV available for the market, unless you look at Telemundo, Univision, America One, or any religious network.
I don't personally or professionally believe that NBC should ignore the fact that viewers in the Salisbury market should be without local NBC coverage. It's really assanine... but, I'm just a broadcaster trying to do the best for my viewers.
Well, for one thing; NBC will not allow a station in the Salisbury/Ocean City, MD market.
I KNOW. I tried with my LPTV station in Delaware. WRC - 4 in DC has the rights for the Salisbury market. Even though, they are not carried in DE on the cable systems. WBAL and WCAU are carried on the cable giving viewers a NBC choice. The President/GM of WRC will not give up this territory. NBC backs him up. Because it's a NBC owned/operated station.
There are only i and My Network TV available for the market, unless you look at Telemundo, Univision, America One, or any religious network.
I don't personally or professionally believe that NBC should ignore the fact that viewers in the Salisbury market should be without local NBC coverage. It's really assanine... but, I'm just a broadcaster trying to do the best for my viewers.
Re: What about My Network TV & the CW not getting complete coverage around the US?
It's not really a matter of giving up territory. Look at WHAG - Hagerstown, and WMGM- Wildwood/Atlantic City. Both are areas, where an NBC owned station is also carried, and where the NBC owned station is the primary station for the entire market, the other station is just a local news and revenue source, increasing exposure for NBC where another OTA signal isn't available.
Hearst Argyle has a claim for the Salisbury market. If Comcast wants to offer High Definition NBC, they have to go through Hearst- WBAL-DT.
radioboss said:
It's not really a matter of giving up territory. Look at WHAG - Hagerstown, and WMGM- Wildwood/Atlantic City. Both are areas, where an NBC owned station is also carried, and where the NBC owned station is the primary station for the entire market, the other station is just a local news and revenue source, increasing exposure for NBC where another OTA signal isn't available.
Hearst Argyle has a claim for the Salisbury market. If Comcast wants to offer High Definition NBC, they have to go through Hearst- WBAL-DT.
Re: What about My Network TV & the CW not getting complete coverage around the US?
Tyler-Longview has a similar problem with the CW, but not with My Network TV.
First off, MNTV has the stronger carriage, mainly because KTPN/KLPN--48/58 Tyler/Longview is also carried on KFXK's DTV subchannel. That plus it has perfect cable carriage in the market, with the exception of a few cities that aren't serviced by SuddenLink. (Frankston's Northland franchise carries KDFI)
But the CW is carried on KCEB 54 out of Longview. The station's cable carriage is just limited at the moment to SuddenLink Cable in Tyler/Jacksonville. (Our Northland Cable system in Frankston carries KDAF out of Dallas, while the nearby city of Palestine which has Time Warner does not even have CW or MNTV at all) Add to that the station has a weak OTA analog coverage because of the fact that it only broadcasts from an 800 ft. tower in Longview. The station's just barely recievable from my home in Frankston. And there's probably no chance of it seeing carriage as a DTV subchannel unless KETK's Weather Plus bombs and gets the boot, and KCEB probably won't go digital until the 2009 switch.
So, MNTV has the better advantage over the CW in our market.
Tyler-Longview has a similar problem with the CW, but not with My Network TV.
First off, MNTV has the stronger carriage, mainly because KTPN/KLPN--48/58 Tyler/Longview is also carried on KFXK's DTV subchannel. That plus it has perfect cable carriage in the market, with the exception of a few cities that aren't serviced by SuddenLink. (Frankston's Northland franchise carries KDFI)
But the CW is carried on KCEB 54 out of Longview. The station's cable carriage is just limited at the moment to SuddenLink Cable in Tyler/Jacksonville. (Our Northland Cable system in Frankston carries KDAF out of Dallas, while the nearby city of Palestine which has Time Warner does not even have CW or MNTV at all) Add to that the station has a weak OTA analog coverage because of the fact that it only broadcasts from an 800 ft. tower in Longview. The station's just barely recievable from my home in Frankston. And there's probably no chance of it seeing carriage as a DTV subchannel unless KETK's Weather Plus bombs and gets the boot, and KCEB probably won't go digital until the 2009 switch.
So, MNTV has the better advantage over the CW in our market.
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