Eric Stein said:
It airs on KMBC, a strong ABC affiliate
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What are ABC's weakest affiliates?
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It airs on KMBC, a strong ABC affiliate
MarcB said:
Question - Does New Haven get any of the network affiliates from New York on cable, or at least did in the past? Obviously they are not in the New York TV market but the proximity makes me wonder.
M.J. said:
They used to get all of the NY network affiliates in the city of New Haven and they still get most of them (ABC, NBC, CBS and PBS). Nowadays, IIRC, no Fox 5 any more and no WWOR either. They do get WNET in addition to CPTV. However, aside from WNET, none of the NY channels are offered in HD. If you want HD, you're stuck with the fare from CT.
I assume MarcB was using the Comcast cable channel numbers in his post. I only refer to their virtual channel over-the-air number: WNBC channel 4, WABC channel 7, WWOR channel 9 and WPIX channel 11. My friend in Stratford gets network duplication with Cablevision. Stratford is in Fairfield County so he gets the major New York City stations in HD. He gets Connecticut channels 3, 8, 20, 30, 59 and 61 in SD. It must be nice being on the county line of two different TV markets like that. If one preempts a network show, you have the other affiliate to fall back on!.
Getting this thread back to ABC affiliates, WTNH-TV channel 8 of New Haven is usually third place in Hartford County, with the obvious domination of WFSB-TV (CBS) channel 3 of Hartford and then WVIT-TV (NBC) channel 30 of New Britain. Some areas of northern Connecticut may receive WGGB-TV (ABC) channel 40 of Springfield, MA. Comcast in New Britain only carries WGBY-TV (PBS) channel 57 from Springfield. They've never carried the digital signal of either WGGB or WWLP-TV (NBC) channel 22. WGBY is carried in SD only.
Getting this thread back to ABC affiliates, WTNH-TV channel 8 of New Haven is usually third place in Hartford County, with the obvious domination of WFSB-TV (CBS) channel 3 of Hartford and then WVIT-TV (NBC) channel 30 of New Britain. Some areas of northern Connecticut may receive WGGB-TV (ABC) channel 40 of Springfield, MA. Comcast in New Britain only carries WGBY-TV (PBS) channel 57 from Springfield. They've never carried the digital signal of either WGGB or WWLP-TV (NBC) channel 22. WGBY is carried in SD only.
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nickelodeonfan97 said:BRNout said:Sure, if your definition of "WEAK" is being the undisputed #1 station in the market for over a decade.... :
More like three decades!
Exactly. I mean, really, dredging up Edge of Night how many decades later? Time to let that one go. It's 2010, and the pre-emptions are far fewer than in the ancient past.
Their job, like everyone else, is to do the best for their market. Yes, that means sometimes striking a balance between local and network, and sometimes a judgement call is that local wins. Moreover, they have started to make periodic use of the subchannel during pre-emptions (for both some network and syndie fare) in some cases.
Dighton Rockhead said:
When that station hired a former news director from the CBS affiliate here as their VP/GM, it was described to me as "a distant third in a two station market".
I believe he's still there, and there are still two former WOIO/19 "19 Action News" on-air staffers there.
Sure enough. (VP/GM Stephen Doerr, anchor Allison Alexander and reporter Shannon O'Brien.)
http://www.abc6.com/Global/category.asp?C=184752
http://www.abc6.com/Global/category.asp?C=183959
And it looks like WLNE is using the same slogan as WOIO. "Honest. Fair. Everywhere."
That's not the road to success. Though it occasionally wins at 11 PM due to CBS' strong prime-time lineup, WOIO is generally the fourth-place news operation in the market. I'm pretty sure their morning news is watched by friends and family only.
WPDE - Myrtle Beach, SC. Gets beat by WBTW who is #1 in the market. They are also getting beaten by the new NBC station that just moved into the market.
WCIV ABC 4 Charleston, SC
WCIV ABC 4 Charleston, SC
M.J. said:
New Haven is about 69 miles as the crow flies from New York. It's farther from NY than Burlington, NJ. New Haven is not in the New York TV market, however, it remains as a city in the New York metropolitan region. It's a 1 train ride into New York, so commutership remains and perhaps significantly viewed status of the local NY stations. I think those factors help keep the remaining NY stations on the dial, even though there is quite a distance still between New Haven and New York. This may play to WNTH's disadvantage of course being a New Haven station, in a county where there is interest in New York weather and info and local TV.
WJCL Savannah. THE lowest rated ABC affiliate in the nation.
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WOLO/ABC 25 in Columbia, SC is less than impressive...I'd consider it among the weaker.
KDNL is the weakest ABC affiliate. Just pathetic in every possible way. It's owned by Sinclair, the worst ownership group in the history of mankind.
The examples of WPVI are a bit petty in my opinion.
The examples of WPVI are a bit petty in my opinion.
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Sinclair does a pretty good job with their flagship station, Fox 45 in Baltimore.
KDNL is utterly horrible. They haven't been 20% better since they dropped news, which was still not the great.
KVEW 42 Kennewick (Tri-Cities, WA) does pretty bad too. They dropped all weekend newscasts, they have a 5-minute 11pm newscast, and sister station KAPP 35 in Yakima, WA dropped their 6pm newscast, with almost everything except for local news headlines on the newscasts coming 150 miles away in Spokane, where other sister station KXLY 4 is located.
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KVEW 42 Kennewick (Tri-Cities, WA) does pretty bad too. They dropped all weekend newscasts, they have a 5-minute 11pm newscast, and sister station KAPP 35 in Yakima, WA dropped their 6pm newscast, with almost everything except for local news headlines on the newscasts coming 150 miles away in Spokane, where other sister station KXLY 4 is located.
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ABC is weak in the Eastern Carolinas (maybe their weakest stations on the East Coast), like what the other posters have said. WCIV is a distant #3, WOLO didn't even do news in Columbia until a couple of years ago, and have had about 10 different news formats in the last 15 years, none of them gaining any traction.
ABC Columbia is probably their best effort yet. At least now they compete with the other stations.
Charleston is Allbritton's low-end station, and doesn't get any of the gizmos that their larger stations get. They're better than they used to be. For about five years, they had a horrible living room set. Two years before the Ravenel Bridge (our high-rise bridge) opened, they built a set that included it. They are better now.
WPDE has improved a lot since their beginning in 1980.
ABC Columbia is probably their best effort yet. At least now they compete with the other stations.
Charleston is Allbritton's low-end station, and doesn't get any of the gizmos that their larger stations get. They're better than they used to be. For about five years, they had a horrible living room set. Two years before the Ravenel Bridge (our high-rise bridge) opened, they built a set that included it. They are better now.
WPDE has improved a lot since their beginning in 1980.
charlestondxman said:
But isn't WPDE soon becoming a #3 behind new comer WMBF News
nickelodeonfan97 said:
True even though over the years WBFF did lose a lot of their audience ( they were once a regional station reaching five states on cable..today more/less WBFF is only seen in the Baltimore area ) but among the ABC affilates I believe WSYX in Columbus, Ohio is tops for Sinclair.
mleach said:
Their twin operation WCHS/WVAH in Charleston, WV also is a pretty consistent second, mainly because WSAZ is pretty much dominant everywhere in their area, while CBS station WOWK pretty much sticks to the north side of the market to the detriment of Charleston and viewers in the south of their coverage area.
charlestondxman said:
It's always been something of a puzzlement to me that ABC is so weak in South Carolina; traditionally NBC is number one in Greenville/Spartanburg/Asheville and Columbia; CBS in Charleston and Florence. But if you go into eastern North Carolina it's a different story. WWAY/3 Wilmington's strongest competition is probably from NBC affiliate WECT/6 (CBS is on low-power WILM/10. which gets its news from sister station WRAL in Raleigh; Fox is WSFX/26); WCTI/12 Greenville/New Bern/Washington runs first or second at newstime (it carries Oprah at 4 before its 5 PM news) and is about dead even now with NBC affiliate WITN/7. Norfolk's WVEC/13, which serves northeastern North Carolina, is usually first in news and has a formidable lineup of syndicated shows including Oprah, Regis & Kelly, "Wheel Of Fortune," and "Jeopardy!"
But since I go to Myrtle Beach several times a year, I've been able to track WMBF's progress and it has made gains in a hurry; the station signed on just in time for the 2008 Olympics. I haven't seen anything like it since KARE/11 became the NBC affiliate in the Twin Cities; that station had been independent (WTCN) and it took about five years to pass KSTP for second in the all-important 10 PM (Central) news race.
Troy Goodwin said:
Rumor has it Belo is buying WLNE. I wonder if that will change anything... this station has always been an also ran in the market. I have not seen this one mentioned but I would add WVII-Bangor Maine. You know the station that tapes most of it's 11 PM newscast at 7:00 PM.
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