What CC_Raleigh should do

[Johnnie_Radio]

#1 should put Classic Rock back on 106-1 RDU, i lived in Raliegh for 3 years and this was one of the most Popular station...formats in the Triangle


#2Flip 100.7 RVA to perhaps Urban and install a local Morning show and Blow away k975(this could easly be done with 975's only 50,000 signal now and the fact they sound more stale than ever).

#3Flip 93.9 KSL to Adult Urban and sign Steve Harvey....would also blow away FXC/FXK old Tom Joyner show.

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[Q96 WEQR Fan]

The worst thing that obviously happened is the "Rooster" tothe 106.1 frequency. There are entirely too many country stations in central/eastern North Carolina. Within my boundary, I can pick up the following country stations:

94.7 WQDR (Raleigh)
95.1 WRNS (Kinston)
95.7 WKML (Fayettville)
97.7 WKIX (Goldsboro)
98.5 WDWG (Rocky Mount)
99.9 WCMC (Raleigh)
103.7 WRHD (The new Thunder country) Williamston/Greenville
106.1 WRDU (Raleigh/Wilson)


There are only so many times one can hear Carrie Underwood or Rascal Flatts on one radio station. Someone needs to invent something fresh and put the darn thing on triangle radio. The Rooster is a
stale new country station. Heck, RDU was stale, but at least it had a history as a classic rock station. :'(

And don't even discuss the River. That station needs to be put out of it's misery. Only 2 daypart live disc jockeys playing recycled classic hits, with an occasional voiceover coming in reminding one of the music of that band's generation, that puts everyone to sleep . What an incredible waste of a mighty signal, I'd say put G105 on that channel, call it G-100 and put classic rock on 105.1.

 

[pbf1]

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#1 should put Classic Rock back on 106-1 RDU, i lived in Raliegh for 3 years and this was one of the most Popular station...formats in the Triangle

Might wish to check those Arbitrons one more time. Granted, the Rooster is doing even worse, but RDU was doing VERY poorly.

 

[Johnnie_Radio]

WELL YOU DON'T DUMP A HERITAGE STATION LIKE RDU'S CLASSIC ROCK FOR COUNTRY!! THAT IS JUST PLAIN RIDICULOUS!

WHY NOT INVEST INTO MAKING THE CLASSIC ROCKER BETTER, EXPAND THE PLAYLIST, SEE WHAT THE LISTENER WANTS TO HEAR MORE OF. PROMOTE RDU BETTER...

I GET SO SICK OF THESE SO CALLED OVERPAID COPORATE GM'S KILLING GOOD STATIONS!.

THERE ARE COUNTRY STATIONS ALL OVER THE GLOBE......WHY IS THAT!!!

RALIEGH ALREADY HAS 2 COUNTRY STATIONS.......IT'S SAD THAT CLASSIC ROCK AND SOUL ARE ALWAYS DUMPED FOR COUNTRY. TOOOO MANY COUNTRY STATIONS ALREADY....CAN WE GIVE CLASSIC ROCK AND FUNK A CHANCE HERE.....??

AN EXAMPLE......IN DENVER....CBS....DUMPED HERITAGE KDJM'S CLASSIC SOUL AND FUNK STATION FOR COUNTRY....WHEN DENVER ALREADY HAD 2 COUNTRY STATIONS YOU COULD LISTEN TOO.

ARE THESE GM'S BIASED FOR JUST COUNTRY MUSIC OR WHAT??

 

[XTalker]

I remember a conversation with Mel Karmazin once. He was talking about the requirement that CBS O&O radio had to carry 10 sec commercials promoting CBS TV. He was asked "what is TV going to do for us?" His response was "NOTHING, we own the radio stations and we will do with them what we wish!"

Clear Channel owns the stations, Johnny_Radio, and they can do any damn thing with them they please.

I know you don't agree with their actions, but that is not reason to SHOUT at us!

 

[BIG APE]

;D I'm still thinking in terms of an "Arabic" language station! Way things are still going, it's possible!

 

[Johnnie_Radio]

well Xtalker........since your defending the Beast known as Cheap Copy Radio.....you either must work for them or must be a silent partner.

This is the beast that killed what used to be good...fun....open minded radio. They were allowed to buy all the stations and run them like Fast Food Chains.....cheap and quick,....these overpaid Suits just don't get it and they never will.

and its.....Johnnie...Radio......did you take spelling in school ;D

 

[quadraphonic]

I don't know that Clear Channel killed what used to be good...fun...openminded radio.
It seems like it's been going downhill since "WKRP" went off the air the first goround.
Not that Clear Channel have done a whole lot of good either, don't get me wrong.
They did overvalue a lot of stations (by overpaying for them, like a lot of other groups).
But there were a lot of local stations who went to liner readers and every person doing
four jobs for the pay of one, Clear Channel is just the most behemothic one to mention.

 

[pbf1]

Deja Vu

WELL YOU DON'T DUMP A HERITAGE STATION LIKE RDU'S CLASSIC ROCK FOR COUNTRY!! THAT IS JUST PLAIN RIDICULOUS!

They used to say that about WQDR, but THEY seem to be doing OK now!

 

[Johnnie_Radio]

Re: What CC Raleigh should do

WELL YOU DON'T DUMP A HERITAGE STATION LIKE RDU'S CLASSIC ROCK FOR COUNTRY!! THAT IS JUST PLAIN RIDICULOUS!

They used to say that about WQDR, but THEY seem to be doing OK now!

The Point is that...when QDR came around....how many Established Market Country Formats where there??

WHy kill the only Classic Rocker for a format already established..AKA QDR...CMC...KML....

why not make RDU's CLassic Rock better...or even compete with FXC'S Udult Urban??

It seems like country music rules the world......Radio is so dead forever!!

 

[Radio-X]

WELL YOU DON'T DUMP A HERITAGE STATION LIKE RDU'S CLASSIC ROCK FOR COUNTRY!! THAT IS JUST PLAIN RIDICULOUS!

WHY NOT INVEST INTO MAKING THE CLASSIC ROCKER BETTER, EXPAND THE PLAYLIST, SEE WHAT THE LISTENER WANTS TO HEAR MORE OF. PROMOTE RDU BETTER...

I GET SO SICK OF THESE SO CALLED OVERPAID COPORATE GM'S KILLING GOOD STATIONS!.

Well, radio is about money and, to a certain extent, gambling for more money.

The CC Raleigh cluster probably determined a cluster with AC, light AAA, Top 40, and Classic Rock probably could do much better money-wise in the future by converting it to Rhythmic AC, Classic Hits/Rock Hybrid, Top 40, and country...

Plus, three country stations are not that many for a large southern market! ENC has two/three in any general area.

I'm not condoning CC Raleigh for trashing RDU, but...money is money. If they can bill more, then they have accomplished their goal...sadly

Radio-X

 

[stench]

That man Bruce Logan, he is a Programming Prodigy I tell ya.

 

[berlin201]

#1 should put Classic Rock back on 106-1 RDU, i lived in Raliegh for 3 years and this was one of the most Popular station...formats in the Triangle


#2Flip 100.7 RVA to perhaps Urban and install a local Morning show and Blow away k975(this could easly be done with 975's only 50,000 signal now and the fact they sound more stale than ever).

#3Flip 93.9 KSL to Adult Urban and sign Steve Harvey....would also blow away FXC/FXK old Tom Joyner show.

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I agree that they should kill The Rooster, but leave Kiss alone! This is the one good station that came about--- in either Raleigh or Greensboro--- from all those umpteen gazillion format changes last year... Also, an urban station in the same stable with G105 (CHR) and Kiss (rhythmic AC) just won't work, although K97.5 is in fact sounding a bit stale these days. The only way I can see an urban work in CC-R's stable is to revert G105 to its previous alternative lean that it had in the 90s, and I don't see CC doing that...

 

[johnqdoe]

It's not like 'RDU was burning up the ratings or the revenue. Things have been pretty messed up at Smoketree for years and years now.

 

[XTalker]

well Xtalker........since your defending the Beast known as Cheap Copy Radio.....you either must work for them or must be a silent partner.

This is the beast that killed what used to be good...fun....open minded radio. They were allowed to buy all the stations and run them like Fast Food Chains.....cheap and quick,....these overpaid Suits just don't get it and they never will.

and its.....Johnnie...Radio......did you take spelling in school ;D

I donot work for CC, nor do I still own any CC stock (although I did work for them at one time, and I did make some considerable profit on some company stock)!

Actually, I was not defending Clear Channel except to say they own the damn stations and they can do anything they want to do with them!

Sounds like you, Johnnie_Radio (last time I checked, they didn't teach that in school), is probably someone who was fired by a CC station - but of course, that would put you in some pretty good company. This board is not about personal attacks, but about the reality of radio!

 

[fingar]

Hey, Xtalker, who hasn't been fired by Clear Channel.
...You ain't been fired, you ain't doin' sumthin right...

 

[Stuart]

As I said many times before, I am not a Radio Professional, nor do I play one on TV. Radio is my hobby. With that said...

When Clear Channel (or any other owner) wants to change the format of one of their stations, there must be a certain amount of research done to see which format would work. I once participated in a Focus Group for Curtis Media talking about 1360 WCHL. Does Clear Channel have these Focus Groups? How does an owner of a station decide what format to change to?

I was always curious about this question.....One a station does change formats, do they just "buy" another one? What I mean, does the station go to a "Radio Format Company" and just buy several thousand songs of a new format?, have some jingles made, and go to the FCC and apply for new call letters? How is a format change done?

Thanks,
Stuart

 

[XTalker]

Country was never a very popular format in the Raleigh market until the early 1980s when 850AM WKIX went country. Joe Wade mornings, Dale Van Horn in mid-days, Jay Butler nights. KIX Country really established the format in the market. QDR hired Jay and changed formats. KIX went oldies a short time later.

 

[chromiumboy]

How is a format change done?

In fact, yes sometimes stations "buy" a format lock stock and barrel. There's several companies out there that maintain and sell pre-formatted libraries of music to fit a particular format. However, theye're almost never "thousands" of songs. A typical station rotates 200 to 400 songs in total.

Also, as has been established earlier, a fair amount of research goes into determining a format "hole" in a market. That (hopefully) is the expense incurred first.

And there's plenty of companies that offer imaging packages (station IDs, etc). And yes, they sometimes change calls, although often the calls stay the same and they just change the handle (see 106.1 WRDU "The Rooster").

That's not to say that some stations don't do all of this themselves. Also, with large chains (CC), often the format's simply carbon copied from the, say, country station they already operate in another market...music, imaging, air talent etc.

Then, of course, there's the staff. They're almost always the last to know. Midday staff meetings with mandatory attendance at a station with low ratings never mean anything good.

By the way, XTalker, WQDR's first country PD was a guy named Charlie Marcus. He hired Jay.

 

[XTalker]

Hey, Xtalker, who hasn't been fired by Clear Channel.
...You ain't been fired, you ain't doin' sumthin right...

Actually, I was sold by Clear Channel - then fired by CBS! Can't get much better than that!