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WHAT COULD REVIVE THIS MARKET?

Dighton Rockhead said:
Like it or not...this is the 21st. Century, and everything now is about MORE choice....not less.

You are, of course, correct. It is also correct that there being too many slices of too small a pie guarantees few, if any, are profitable and service will continue to worsen until all but one or two outlets are bird-fed and probably in the hands of religion-for-money group ownerships.

But that IS choice, isn't it!
 
Skynet, I worked at WSAR too, and have to second your thoughts exactly! (I have been to a Chamber of Commerce dinner with that guy and it was helllllll....)

I'm up by Boston but I do get WCTK, and will alternate between it and WKLB in Boston.

The changes at WCTK are okay by me so far. I don't miss Adam at nights and I think Samantha Cody is fun, if a little gushy and "young" sometimes. I LOVE LOVE LOVE Bob Maddox! Too bad we won't be hearing his "W C-T-K!!!" into breaks and songs anymore (since they're not saying it any more.) I listen to the Madman whenever I can and really enjoy his thang, whatever it is....he makes me think "Saturday night date night" is really out there happening, even though I'm tired, driving home from work. I think it would be a big mistake to let him or anyone like him, on any station, go as he is a very skilled DJ in the original sense. He is the opposite of voice tracking. Listening, PDs of ALL stations? Voice tracking BAD. Live local dee-jays GOOD. They have some other hosts who baffled me, but they've all grown on me over time.

WKLB seems to be slicker than WCTK but I don't necessarily think it's better. It too has its share of live and local DJs,
(including Sunday Morning Country Oldies. No reason WCTK couldn't do something like that, too.) But they don't really talk into the songs as much on KLB; they'll finish what they're saying before the post, whereas on WCTK I hear a lot more DJs taking the last syllable right up to that post and it's MAGICAL. It will really be a loss if the art of the DJ dissappears. If I just want to hear songs I like, I'll put in a CD. But I like to hear a DJ sell me the song, the station, the whatever it is they're talking about.

Sorry, got carried away....Radio geek, busted!
 
ScottBurns said:
The imminent Chapter 7 bankruptcy, followed by liquidation, of Citadel and Clear Channel would revive this market. Each station would have to be sold off separately, and new clusters could not be created. If locally-owned companies bought each station, and each company (or individual) was not leveraged in unsustainable debt, then Providence's stations could go back to what they were. In addition, they could probably become profitable.

In addition, I would NEVER bring PPM into the Providence market.

With that said, and assuming the above fantasy became reality, here is a bit of what I would do:

PRO-FM: I would improve imaging, and make the station sound more "fun." There would be longer breaks, the jocks would talk more, and there would be far more interaction with listeners. The utterly crappy "Ralphie Radio Show" would be eliminated, and a high-energy, phone-friendly night jock would be hired.

Coast: The "Coast" brand is poison. I would go back to using the station's well-known call letters, and return 93.3 WSNE to its glory. I would make the station a full-service AC, perhaps leaning Hot AC. I also think there is a niche for Modern AC in Providence, positioned between WPRO-FM and WBRU. Such a station might sound like WBMX in Boston. Either way, the station would be live and local 24 hours a day.

WHJY: The current airstaff is actually very, very good. I would eliminate all voice-tracking, and allow the jocks (besides Paul and Al and Charles) to talk more and interact more with the listeners. I would introduce some more music variety, as they had 5-10 years ago. I would also bring back some of the things that made WHJY unique - for example, after the 4:20 Club on Fridays, the "hour of music you don't hear anymore."

WBRU: The only station I would largely leave as is.

WCTK: I have noticed some changes since the new PD came aboard. They now brand themselves as "Today's Cat Country 98.1," and they stopped using their call letters in every voiceover. I would add a bit more variety to the music. Perhaps they could sprinkle in some more gold. I would bring in a fun, CHR-like night show. I would also keep the station live and local, 24 hours a day.

WWBB: If they are unwilling to go back to Oldies - and because WHJY has the Classic Hits format covered with their AOR format - perhaps a format change is in order here.

WEEI-FM: I know this is really a Boston station, but I would definitely get rid of Mike Adams. His sports knowledge seems very limited, and his show seems limited to nonsensical non-sequitors. It is almost unbearable to listen to at times.

WWLI: Again, get rid of all of the voicetracking, and spice up the music a bit more.

WWKX: I agree with the poster who mentioned that Hot should go in the direction of WJMN. The "Hits and Hip-hop" format would work nicely in a market like Providence.
I largly agree although I would get rid of the abomination that is on 103.7. Make it either Classic Rock, Alt Rock, or another CHR...Anything other than what is wasting such a pristine siginal right now!!!
 
103.7 is not an abomination; it is a sports talker that bills well. Better get used to the fact that talk based formats are migrating to FM.......
 
DG02816 said:
103.7 is not an abomination; it is a sports talker that bills well. Better get used to the fact that talk based formats are migrating to FM.......


Yeah... that's just great. Where is the music going to end up?
 
Do I dare say here? :)

Okay, I'll put it this way, Kix106 was such a station back in the 90's and the CLOSEST thing you have to one is Fun 107, though they sound more like a 92.3 Now here in New York City.

There IS a population that would want a dance/rhythmic style station in Providence. You certainly have the clubbing segment in Providence for it. And just like it is for Italians and Latinos that listen to Party FM down here in NYC, you do have a significant amount of French/Portuguese background that love dance music as well.

I know I'm putting myself "out there" with this comment, but I really think for an area such as Providence, a dance station could do it. That is, if Boston doesn't do it first. :)
 
Tony Santiago said:
I know I'm putting myself "out there" with this comment, but I really think for an area such as Providence, a dance station could do it. That is, if Boston doesn't do it first. :)
Tony, don't you think if there was some merit to a dance station, as you describe it, Boston would have already done it? I'm just sayin'.
 
Re: WWKX

HOT 106 is trying to save money by syndicating mornings, but in the long run I think a local show would help them in ratings. West Coast Radio does not work in Rhose Island, period.

They should also stop branding themselfs as "#1 for Hip Hop and R&B" because their playlist clearly has little R&B in it and clearly is Rhythmic (ish). Change it to '#1 for Hip Hop' as it was a few years ago if my memory is serving me correctly. Sure, they play the occasional R&B cut because they're not exactly the definition of a true Rhythmic, but it still is not enough to call themselfs #1 for Hip Hop and R&B
 
Element9 said:
Tony Santiago said:
I know I'm putting myself "out there" with this comment, but I really think for an area such as Providence, a dance station could do it. That is, if Boston doesn't do it first. :)
Tony, don't you think if there was some merit to a dance station, as you describe it, Boston would have already done it? I'm just sayin'.

It takes people to make big noise about it. That's what we did here in New York City and it worked :). There IS a Boston Dance Music Coalition going on as well with people that WANT it bad. The crowd is there for the taking and has HUGE profit potential. Just a matter of a station opening up their eyes and seeing the wisdom to go grab it.
 
Element9 said:
Tony Santiago said:
I know I'm putting myself "out there" with this comment, but I really think for an area such as Providence, a dance station could do it. That is, if Boston doesn't do it first. :)
Tony, don't you think if there was some merit to a dance station, as you describe it, Boston would have already done it? I'm just sayin'.

I'm not necessarily agreeing with Tony that there is a need for a dance station in Boston and Providence, but if there was, I highly doubt any of our "corporate overlords" would take any action to put a station like that on-the-air. The majority of the corporate stations are increasingly cohesive, sharing automation, music libraries, voice tracking, imaging, etc, with only the minimal amount of effort put into differentiating one station from the next. Since dance is more of a niche format than CHR, AC, Country, it's doubtful that any of these debt ridden corporations that have ruined radio would but any effort into launching a station, even if they were guaranteed sponsors and billing, since it's a format that they would probably not be able to put in the majority of markets they own stations in and make a profit.

Now a local or "regional" owner, might be more willing to launch something unique like this - but not homogenized pasteurized corporate radio.
 
Skynet74 said:
DG02816 said:
103.7 is not an abomination; it is a sports talker that bills well. Better get used to the fact that talk based formats are migrating to FM.......


Yeah... that's just great. Where is the music going to end up?
Music will end up on your iPod, iPhone, Droid, or whatever device you have with you that has 30GB of storage and has access to the Internet. Terrestrial radio will be here for a while - but they will be increasingly competing with other types of devices that have the ability to deliver content, whether its purchased and downloaded, or streamed. 4G connectivity and its associated devices are going to put a killing on terrestrial radio over the next decade.
 
riradio02842 said:
Now a local or "regional" owner, might be more willing to launch something unique like this - but not homogenized pasteurized corporate radio.

As long as someone does it..... :)
 
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