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What could SAVE WEMP

While I agree with most of your post, news is the other way around in
Most markets, as it has a lower cume but high ratings, meaning they DO stick around. Just look at KYW in Philly. I think it's 6th or 7th in cume, yet usually leads the market in AQH.
 
chrocket87 said:
While I agree with most of your post, news is the other way around in
Most markets, as it has a lower cume but high ratings, meaning they DO stick around. Just look at KYW in Philly. I think it's 6th or 7th in cume, yet usually leads the market in AQH.
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The real explanation in PPM markets is not that they "stick around" but that people come back many times a day for short spans called, in Arbitron language, "incidents."

The average PPM incident is around 12 or 13 minutes for all formats. ATE (Average Time Exposed; there is no TSL in PPM) is created by getting multiple incidents.
 
Can anything really save this station? I don't think even the staff listens to this thing?

I had been listening on and off for months. I noticed as of late that the 5:18 time check is always preceded by an incorrect 8:23 time check. This has been going on for who knows how long at this point. I filled out their feedback form and guess what? Still the wrong time! Should I be surprised? Probably not.

I went back to WCBS-AM. At least on the rare times they screw up they're human enough to admit it, unlike the automated dreck on 101.9. Put a fork in it, they're done!
 
Bill DeFelice said:
I had been listening on and off for months. I noticed as of late that the 5:18 time check is always preceded by an incorrect 8:23 time check. This has been going on for who knows how long at this point. I filled out their feedback form and guess what? Still the wrong time! Should I be surprised? Probably not.
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I wonder if this is a sign that they have pretty much given up on this station and just waiting to put something else in its place.
 
I wonder if this is a sign that they have pretty much given up on this station and just waiting to put something else in its place.
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Since Merlin seemed to stop its advertising and promotion push of the format back in early winter, you do have to wonder if it isn't just coasting until the time is right to flip to a different format.

Merlin may be planning the same kind of format in New York that its new station in Philly is becoming. That is, news in morning drive, followed by syndicated talk the rest of the day, followed by whatever until the next morning. With weekends filled with more syndicated talk.

Given that Clear Channel is maxed out in NYC and its stations are doing so well in the ratings, it's not likely to dump any of its own formats to clear its Premier talk shows like Rush, Hannity and Beck. But, with big rival Cumulus possibly considering pulling the plugs on Premier's big talk shows on WABC, Clear Channel may be looking for an FM alternative in NYC the same way it was looking for an FM alternative in Philly.

In the meantime, Merlin may have some newspeople still under contract from its earlier plans and may just be burning those contracts down, although it would keep some for its morning show. There's not much point in switching to another format now if the plan is to carry syndicated talk that might be moving off WABC, or even WOR, in the next year. Unfortunately, it doesn't appear that Merlin is trying very hard to have its news format catch on in New York and that is not a good sign for its continuation.
 
It's time to bring back CD 101.9. Blend in more R&B vocals to appeal to former Kiss-FM listeners, and it'd work.
 
CD-101.9 won't work. Smooth Jazz's demos are older than dirt. Don't look for it to come back. It had been on the slide for a long time before the switch to RXP.
 
WNTIRadio said:
CD-101.9 won't work. Smooth Jazz's demos are older than dirt. Don't look for it to come back. It had been on the slide for a long time before the switch to RXP.
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Not older than CBS-FM.

And I'm not saying a new "CD 101.9" would need to be a Smooth Jazz station playing Kenny G instrumentals all day long. I'd position it as a crossover urban/mainstream AC that'd be a bit softer than WLTW or WBLS.
 
Perhaps Walter Sabo should have copied NJ 101.5's format to New York. "Not New Jersey, Not Connecticut, Proud to be New York" and focused on issues that affect New York City. Same thing for the Chicago station "Not Indiana, Not Wisconsin, Proud to be Chicago"
 
what about a second oldies station in New York called 101.9 Oldies ?
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Unfortunately, while WCBS-FM is doing well in the 6+ ratings, and even some important demos, word has it that it is not doing correspondingly well in what really matters most....billing.

A real "oldies" station would not only split that smaller money pie, but it would be handicapped with even older demos that most advertisers aren't that interested in.

If you're looking for a music format for WEMP, its got to attract younger demos that are more attractive to advertisers, and, preferably brings demos or a lifestyle group to the table that isn't being fully reached by existing music formats.

People who might be attracted to an "alternative" station are still probably being reached by advertisers on Classic Hits, Classic Rock or even Adult Contemporary music formats. A potentially successful format would be one that offers advertisers something a little different than they can get with existing formats. A NYC version of NJ-101.5 would have been something different, but there are reasons to believe the powers that be probably have other ideas.
 
TimeIsTight said:
what about a second oldies station in New York called 101.9 Oldies ?
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If you're looking for a music format for WEMP, its got to attract younger demos that are more attractive to advertisers, and, preferably brings demos or a lifestyle group to the table that isn't being fully reached by existing music formats.
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EDM

And no, 'KTU does not reach that audience with their brand.
 
Nick said:
Perhaps Walter Sabo should have copied NJ 101.5's format to New York. "Not New Jersey, Not Connecticut, Proud to be New York" and focused on issues that affect New York City.
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That would be telling these important suburbs, "Don't listen!" Not something a NY station with a decent signal can afford to do. It would also make them sound hypocritical when covering important NJ/CT stories.
 
wadio said:
Nick said:
Perhaps Walter Sabo should have copied NJ 101.5's format to New York. "Not New Jersey, Not Connecticut, Proud to be New York" and focused on issues that affect New York City.
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That would be telling these important suburbs, "Don't listen!" Not something a NY station with a decent signal can afford to do. It would also make them sound hypocritical when covering important NJ/CT stories.
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I agree. The WEMP signal covers all of northern NJ, so you don't want to alienate that whole group of people. NJ 101.5 only puts a fringe signal into NY, so excluding NY isn't really a big deal in that case.
 
Tony Santiago said:
TimeIsTight said:
what about a second oldies station in New York called 101.9 Oldies ?
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If you're looking for a music format for WEMP, its got to attract younger demos that are more attractive to advertisers, and, preferably brings demos or a lifestyle group to the table that isn't being fully reached by existing music formats.
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EDM

And no, 'KTU does not reach that audience with their brand.
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A station like iPartyRadio would be great.
 
an alternative rock station programmed specifically for Nyc would be nice or a country station again programmed correctly for nyc would be nice plus we have that type of music basically covered by ktu and now and power
 
XCountry285 said:
an alternative rock station programmed specifically for Nyc would be nice or a country station again programmed correctly for nyc would be nice plus we have that type of music basically covered by ktu and now and power
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Key word you said about "KTU"......BASICALLY. Not enough though. Not to the audience an EDM station would want to seek. Think younger.

92.3 Now? I know they're CHR and they're perhaps the closest that play dance in that brand but I also know that's as far as they can go because they ARE CHR.

And where did you get Power from? They're R&B/hip-hop. Unless artists represented there have a dance remix, they would NOT appear on an EDM station with their radio version of their track.

Though I will say this, if an alternative rock station were to happen in the future, then dubstep has to have a place there.
 
You know what could save WEMP? 880 and 1010 both switching to Iranian Disco tomorrow.

I heard a special feature "50 things about 50 Shades of Grey" on my way to work this morning. If that's what they think is going to pull the listeners in, then they're in bigger trouble than I thought.

Just because it's on FM doesn't make it an automatic success. ESPN will do well because it is an established station, with an established brand and runs a tight ship.

WEMP is flapping around in the wind almost a year later.
 
dubstep has alex clare-close has been played on many alternative stations including 987 in LA. Also, these stations do tend to play remixes as I said of normal hits in the daytime. We really don't need dance because its covered by other stations, while alternative & country lack greatly in this city.
 
FYI: While I had pretty much thrown in the towel on 101.9 I tuned in just long enough to see if they actually fixed the 5:18am time check and, at least for today, it played without the errant 8:23 time check before it.

Could it be they actually read those feedback submissions after all?
 
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