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CKidd
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You asked my thoughts on KFRC!
> About what is playing on 99.7 KFRC-FM?
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Chris Kidd replies:
Thanks for asking Allisonmarie. There is so much more than just what they are playing, it is the whole package.
Back on September 2nd when the major change was made I thought it was a positive change and much better than the alternative of going to a Jack-FM format. You do not want to prejudge a format even after a few weeks.
Now time has passed and the air staff has a much better feel for the format and we as listeners are more used to what we would expect to hear, we now know what we are evaluating.
There is lots of good music on KFRC. There is other music that has been overplayed on many stations and is too soft compared to what used to be played.
Sue Hall is always a pleasure to hear and she is known for her news bits during the midday and her timely events of the day phoners. However I do not know what limitations the Seattle consultant may have placed on her.
Cammy and Dean have have had a stong following in the morning and my gut
feeling is that they enjoy the most freedom and therefore they have been able to maintain the most audience irregarless of the music.
Billy Joel has been quoted as saying when his sings "Just the Way You Are" he is thinking..... "hmmm.... is room service still open at my hotel?"
Some of the stronger male personality songs from the second half of the 70s include: "Smoke from a Distant Fire", "Jackie Blue", "Oh What a Nite" "Who Loves You" and "September" which I have not heard on KFRC.
What other songs from the second half of the 70s do you think they should play now on KFRC?
You have to remember that the old KFRC died around 1987 (if you remember the date please state it) when they went to a 30s,40s,50s non-rock format. It was around 1991 that a newer company in broadcasting (Infinity) had purchased 610 KFRC and started to simulcast an FM that they separately acquired. This was the re-incarnation of KFRC as an oldies format. (if anyone knows some of the exact dates and stories of this re-incarnation please reply with details).
Jane Pauley said this about news packages: "When you promise something in a news story you must deliver otherwise they will not tune in a second time".
The KFRC liners promise "your music, your life!" They question is are they delivering on their promise?
This is my feelings on liners from both management and on-air viewpoints:
Management: You are paying a good personality to be on the air, so allow them to deliver liners and express their personality in their own unique way.
Air Personality: When the listener tunes in for a personality they would rather hear that person speak than hear what they all know is a tape from someone who is not at the station.
There are still great personalities at KFRC that could improvise on the liners (if allowed to) and not remind us of of a visit to the doctors office.
I will look forward to others sharing their viewpoints. Especially share who do you think has gained (what stations) from the fromat change?
CK
> About what is playing on 99.7 KFRC-FM?
>
Chris Kidd replies:
Thanks for asking Allisonmarie. There is so much more than just what they are playing, it is the whole package.
Back on September 2nd when the major change was made I thought it was a positive change and much better than the alternative of going to a Jack-FM format. You do not want to prejudge a format even after a few weeks.
Now time has passed and the air staff has a much better feel for the format and we as listeners are more used to what we would expect to hear, we now know what we are evaluating.
There is lots of good music on KFRC. There is other music that has been overplayed on many stations and is too soft compared to what used to be played.
Sue Hall is always a pleasure to hear and she is known for her news bits during the midday and her timely events of the day phoners. However I do not know what limitations the Seattle consultant may have placed on her.
Cammy and Dean have have had a stong following in the morning and my gut
feeling is that they enjoy the most freedom and therefore they have been able to maintain the most audience irregarless of the music.
Billy Joel has been quoted as saying when his sings "Just the Way You Are" he is thinking..... "hmmm.... is room service still open at my hotel?"
Some of the stronger male personality songs from the second half of the 70s include: "Smoke from a Distant Fire", "Jackie Blue", "Oh What a Nite" "Who Loves You" and "September" which I have not heard on KFRC.
What other songs from the second half of the 70s do you think they should play now on KFRC?
You have to remember that the old KFRC died around 1987 (if you remember the date please state it) when they went to a 30s,40s,50s non-rock format. It was around 1991 that a newer company in broadcasting (Infinity) had purchased 610 KFRC and started to simulcast an FM that they separately acquired. This was the re-incarnation of KFRC as an oldies format. (if anyone knows some of the exact dates and stories of this re-incarnation please reply with details).
Jane Pauley said this about news packages: "When you promise something in a news story you must deliver otherwise they will not tune in a second time".
The KFRC liners promise "your music, your life!" They question is are they delivering on their promise?
This is my feelings on liners from both management and on-air viewpoints:
Management: You are paying a good personality to be on the air, so allow them to deliver liners and express their personality in their own unique way.
Air Personality: When the listener tunes in for a personality they would rather hear that person speak than hear what they all know is a tape from someone who is not at the station.
There are still great personalities at KFRC that could improvise on the liners (if allowed to) and not remind us of of a visit to the doctors office.
I will look forward to others sharing their viewpoints. Especially share who do you think has gained (what stations) from the fromat change?
CK
Factual errors
Back in 1990, real-estate magnate Peter Bedford bought KFRC and X-100, not the then-tiny Infinity. KFRC remained Magic 61, X-100 became Oldies 99.7 KFRC-FM in February 1991.
Sorry, Chris, no points this round. Not a match, the board goes back.
> You have to remember that the old KFRC died around 1987 (if
> you remember the date please state it) when they went to a
> 30s,40s,50s non-rock format. It was around 1991 that a
> newer company in broadcasting (Infinity) had purchased 610
> KFRC and started to simulcast an FM that they separately
> acquired. This was the re-incarnation of KFRC as an oldies
> format. (if anyone knows some of the exact dates and
> stories of this re-incarnation please reply with details).
Back in 1990, real-estate magnate Peter Bedford bought KFRC and X-100, not the then-tiny Infinity. KFRC remained Magic 61, X-100 became Oldies 99.7 KFRC-FM in February 1991.
Sorry, Chris, no points this round. Not a match, the board goes back.
> You have to remember that the old KFRC died around 1987 (if
> you remember the date please state it) when they went to a
> 30s,40s,50s non-rock format. It was around 1991 that a
> newer company in broadcasting (Infinity) had purchased 610
> KFRC and started to simulcast an FM that they separately
> acquired. This was the re-incarnation of KFRC as an oldies
> format. (if anyone knows some of the exact dates and
> stories of this re-incarnation please reply with details).
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CKidd
Guest
Re: Factual errors
> Back in 1990, real-estate magnate Peter Bedford bought KFRC
> and X-100, not the then-tiny Infinity. KFRC remained Magic
> 61, X-100 became Oldies 99.7 KFRC-FM in February 1991.
>
> Sorry, Chris, no points this round. Not a match, the board
> goes back.
Chris Kidd replies:
OK that makes sense. I had only heard the format change to Oldies back in 1991.
Any idea what those stations sold for back then?
When did Infinity buy them?
CK
>
> > You have to remember that the old KFRC died around 1987
> (if
> > you remember the date please state it) when they went to a
>
> > 30s,40s,50s non-rock format. It was around 1991 that a
> > newer company in broadcasting (Infinity) had purchased 610
>
> > KFRC and started to simulcast an FM that they separately
> > acquired. This was the re-incarnation of KFRC as an oldies
>
> > format. (if anyone knows some of the exact dates and
> > stories of this re-incarnation please reply with details).
>
> Back in 1990, real-estate magnate Peter Bedford bought KFRC
> and X-100, not the then-tiny Infinity. KFRC remained Magic
> 61, X-100 became Oldies 99.7 KFRC-FM in February 1991.
>
> Sorry, Chris, no points this round. Not a match, the board
> goes back.
Chris Kidd replies:
OK that makes sense. I had only heard the format change to Oldies back in 1991.
Any idea what those stations sold for back then?
When did Infinity buy them?
CK
>
> > You have to remember that the old KFRC died around 1987
> (if
> > you remember the date please state it) when they went to a
>
> > 30s,40s,50s non-rock format. It was around 1991 that a
> > newer company in broadcasting (Infinity) had purchased 610
>
> > KFRC and started to simulcast an FM that they separately
> > acquired. This was the re-incarnation of KFRC as an oldies
>
> > format. (if anyone knows some of the exact dates and
> > stories of this re-incarnation please reply with details).
>
Re: KFRC History & Sale Prices
Regarding the old KFRC, Chris Kidd wrote:
> Any idea what those stations sold for back then?
>
> When did Infinity buy them?
There's a nice history of the "original" KFRC on the museum website:
http://www.bayarearadio.org/schneider/kfrc1.shtml
The sale prices are listed under "Postscript" near the bottom of the article. The price on the sale of KFRC AM & FM from Alliance to Infinity (1996) was $275-million, but included Alliance's stations in California, Michigan, Texas and Washington.
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Regarding the old KFRC, Chris Kidd wrote:
> Any idea what those stations sold for back then?
>
> When did Infinity buy them?
There's a nice history of the "original" KFRC on the museum website:
http://www.bayarearadio.org/schneider/kfrc1.shtml
The sale prices are listed under "Postscript" near the bottom of the article. The price on the sale of KFRC AM & FM from Alliance to Infinity (1996) was $275-million, but included Alliance's stations in California, Michigan, Texas and Washington.
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Re: Factual errors
> Back in 1990, real-estate magnate Peter Bedford bought KFRC
> and X-100, not the then-tiny Infinity. KFRC remained Magic
> 61, X-100 became Oldies 99.7 KFRC-FM in February 1991.
Emmis bought KFRC from NBC in 1988 and spun it to Bedford in early 1991 (Closing date, not sale date) who held it till mid-1993 whent hey sold to Alliance who flipped it to Infinity in 1996.
Infinity was one of the 4 or 5 biggest broadcasters in the USA in 1990... limited only by the total ownership cap, as was everyone else.
> Back in 1990, real-estate magnate Peter Bedford bought KFRC
> and X-100, not the then-tiny Infinity. KFRC remained Magic
> 61, X-100 became Oldies 99.7 KFRC-FM in February 1991.
Emmis bought KFRC from NBC in 1988 and spun it to Bedford in early 1991 (Closing date, not sale date) who held it till mid-1993 whent hey sold to Alliance who flipped it to Infinity in 1996.
Infinity was one of the 4 or 5 biggest broadcasters in the USA in 1990... limited only by the total ownership cap, as was everyone else.
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allisonmarie
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Re: Factual errors
> Back in 1990, real-estate magnate Peter Bedford bought KFRC
> and X-100, not the then-tiny Infinity. KFRC remained Magic
> 61, X-100 became Oldies 99.7 KFRC-FM in February 1991.
Hello There, When RKO was forced to sell the station (KFRC AM 610 RKO owned no FM) KFRC was sold to Bedford Broadcasting. I believe they also owned a station over in Hawaii to.
X-100 was owned by Emmis was it not?
And then both stations were bought by Alliance Broadcasting which ended the Magic 61 format on 610AM.
The station known as X-100 was renamed KFRC-FM on March 3, 1991 I've got the tape and I just transfered it onto my computer last night. They kicked off their ownership of the station with a 30 minute program recounting bay area radio history that ran for most of the weekend and then they counted down the bay areas Top 100 Hits of All Time for almost a week before launching the oldies format on Sunday night at midnight.
Does anyone out there have a tape of the last day of Magic 61 and the beginning of the KFRC AM/FM simulcast? I bet a lot of people of would like to hear it. I was in Oregon when this change happened and missed being able to record it!
> Hello
> Sorry, Chris, no points this round. Not a match, the board
> goes back.
>
> > You have to remember that the old KFRC died around 1987
> (if
> > you remember the date please state it) when they went to a
>
> > 30s,40s,50s non-rock format. It was around 1991 that a
> > newer company in broadcasting (Infinity) had purchased 610
>
> > KFRC and started to simulcast an FM that they separately
> > acquired. This was the re-incarnation of KFRC as an oldies
>
> > format. (if anyone knows some of the exact dates and
> > stories of this re-incarnation please reply with details).
>
> Back in 1990, real-estate magnate Peter Bedford bought KFRC
> and X-100, not the then-tiny Infinity. KFRC remained Magic
> 61, X-100 became Oldies 99.7 KFRC-FM in February 1991.
Hello There, When RKO was forced to sell the station (KFRC AM 610 RKO owned no FM) KFRC was sold to Bedford Broadcasting. I believe they also owned a station over in Hawaii to.
X-100 was owned by Emmis was it not?
And then both stations were bought by Alliance Broadcasting which ended the Magic 61 format on 610AM.
The station known as X-100 was renamed KFRC-FM on March 3, 1991 I've got the tape and I just transfered it onto my computer last night. They kicked off their ownership of the station with a 30 minute program recounting bay area radio history that ran for most of the weekend and then they counted down the bay areas Top 100 Hits of All Time for almost a week before launching the oldies format on Sunday night at midnight.
Does anyone out there have a tape of the last day of Magic 61 and the beginning of the KFRC AM/FM simulcast? I bet a lot of people of would like to hear it. I was in Oregon when this change happened and missed being able to record it!
> Hello
> Sorry, Chris, no points this round. Not a match, the board
> goes back.
>
> > You have to remember that the old KFRC died around 1987
> (if
> > you remember the date please state it) when they went to a
>
> > 30s,40s,50s non-rock format. It was around 1991 that a
> > newer company in broadcasting (Infinity) had purchased 610
>
> > KFRC and started to simulcast an FM that they separately
> > acquired. This was the re-incarnation of KFRC as an oldies
>
> > format. (if anyone knows some of the exact dates and
> > stories of this re-incarnation please reply with details).
>
Re: Factual errors
>
> OK that makes sense. I had only heard the format change to
> Oldies back in 1991.
>
> Any idea what those stations sold for back then?
Bedford paid $18.5 million, and Alliance paid $20 three years later. The sale to Infinity was a package, with no price on KFRC.
>
> When did Infinity buy them?
Sale announced 09, 1995.
>
> OK that makes sense. I had only heard the format change to
> Oldies back in 1991.
>
> Any idea what those stations sold for back then?
Bedford paid $18.5 million, and Alliance paid $20 three years later. The sale to Infinity was a package, with no price on KFRC.
>
> When did Infinity buy them?
Sale announced 09, 1995.
Re: KFRC Sales/Format Changes
allisonmarie asked:
> Does anyone out there have a tape of the last day of Magic
> 61 and the beginning of the KFRC AM/FM simulcast? I bet a
> lot of people of would like to hear it.
Gosh, I wonder. Too bad there isn't a local radio museum that might have something like that in its archives...
Hmmmm.
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allisonmarie asked:
> Does anyone out there have a tape of the last day of Magic
> 61 and the beginning of the KFRC AM/FM simulcast? I bet a
> lot of people of would like to hear it.
Gosh, I wonder. Too bad there isn't a local radio museum that might have something like that in its archives...
Hmmmm.
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Re: Factual errors (again)
Mr. Eduardo wrote:
> Emmis bought KFRC from NBC in 1988 and spun it to Bedford in early 1991.
Wrong, sir. If you're talking about the station at 99.7, Emmis bought it as KYUU -- not KFRC -- on October 7, 1988. It became KXXX (X-100) that month.
Emmis sold the station to Peter Bedford on March 1, 1991, and it became KFRC-FM on March 2. Bedford closed on the purchase of 610 AM a month later; KFRC-AM remained as "Magic 61" until August 1993, when it began simulcasting 99.7's oldies.
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Mr. Eduardo wrote:
> Emmis bought KFRC from NBC in 1988 and spun it to Bedford in early 1991.
Wrong, sir. If you're talking about the station at 99.7, Emmis bought it as KYUU -- not KFRC -- on October 7, 1988. It became KXXX (X-100) that month.
Emmis sold the station to Peter Bedford on March 1, 1991, and it became KFRC-FM on March 2. Bedford closed on the purchase of 610 AM a month later; KFRC-AM remained as "Magic 61" until August 1993, when it began simulcasting 99.7's oldies.
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allisonmarie
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Re: KFRC Sales/Format Changes
> allisonmarie asked:
>
> > Does anyone out there have a tape of the last day of Magic
>
> > 61 and the beginning of the KFRC AM/FM simulcast? I bet a
> > lot of people of would like to hear it.
>
>
> Gosh, I wonder. Too bad there isn't a local radio museum
> that might have something like that in its archives...
>
> Hmmmm.
>
> DJ
>
Who in the world do you think I'm dubbing these tapes for anyway? Gosh!
> allisonmarie asked:
>
> > Does anyone out there have a tape of the last day of Magic
>
> > 61 and the beginning of the KFRC AM/FM simulcast? I bet a
> > lot of people of would like to hear it.
>
>
> Gosh, I wonder. Too bad there isn't a local radio museum
> that might have something like that in its archives...
>
> Hmmmm.
>
> DJ
>
Who in the world do you think I'm dubbing these tapes for anyway? Gosh!
Re: Factual errors (again)
> Mr. Eduardo wrote:
>
> > Emmis bought KFRC from NBC in 1988 and spun it to Bedford
> in early 1991.
>
>
> Wrong, sir. If you're talking about the station at 99.7,
> Emmis bought it as KYUU -- not KFRC -- on October 7, 1988.
> It became KXXX (X-100) that month.
I guess we may have found a BIA database error. They show the transaction history of each station based on the frequency, not the calls. It shows the current KFRC frequency as having been sold by NBC to Emmis, and then to Bedford.
> Mr. Eduardo wrote:
>
> > Emmis bought KFRC from NBC in 1988 and spun it to Bedford
> in early 1991.
>
>
> Wrong, sir. If you're talking about the station at 99.7,
> Emmis bought it as KYUU -- not KFRC -- on October 7, 1988.
> It became KXXX (X-100) that month.
I guess we may have found a BIA database error. They show the transaction history of each station based on the frequency, not the calls. It shows the current KFRC frequency as having been sold by NBC to Emmis, and then to Bedford.
Re: Who's wrong?
I looked at the history of the station on 99.7 and...
> > Emmis bought KFRC from NBC in 1988 and spun it to Bedford
> in early 1991.
>
>
> Wrong, sir.
The FCC and the industry considers the allocation to be the station, not the calls. 99.7, since it was allocated (even if the allocation was modified, such as happened to nearly every AM in the 30's) is one station, no matter how many calls it has had.
> If you're talking about the station at 99.7,
> Emmis bought it as KYUU -- not KFRC -- on October 7, 1988.
> It became KXXX (X-100) that month.
Whatever its calls, if it is the same facility, it is the same station.
We often refer to stations by their current calls, as I did. Nobody calls WABC (AM) in NY as WEAF, but there is no denying that WABC is 83 years old, whatever the calls it used at the offset.
Similarly, we call KCBS by its current calls, not KQW. The allocation actually moved form San Jose and changed calls, but KCBS is also over 80 years old. Or KNBR, formerly KNBC and KPO... same station, different calls and owners.
neither formats nor calls make the station. The frequency, location and allocation do.
I looked at the history of the station on 99.7 and...
> > Emmis bought KFRC from NBC in 1988 and spun it to Bedford
> in early 1991.
>
>
> Wrong, sir.
The FCC and the industry considers the allocation to be the station, not the calls. 99.7, since it was allocated (even if the allocation was modified, such as happened to nearly every AM in the 30's) is one station, no matter how many calls it has had.
> If you're talking about the station at 99.7,
> Emmis bought it as KYUU -- not KFRC -- on October 7, 1988.
> It became KXXX (X-100) that month.
Whatever its calls, if it is the same facility, it is the same station.
We often refer to stations by their current calls, as I did. Nobody calls WABC (AM) in NY as WEAF, but there is no denying that WABC is 83 years old, whatever the calls it used at the offset.
Similarly, we call KCBS by its current calls, not KQW. The allocation actually moved form San Jose and changed calls, but KCBS is also over 80 years old. Or KNBR, formerly KNBC and KPO... same station, different calls and owners.
neither formats nor calls make the station. The frequency, location and allocation do.
Re: Who's wrong? (Ummm, You...)
Mr. Eduardo wrote:
> The FCC and the industry considers the allocation to be the
> station, not the calls...
Wait a minute. With all due respect, are you seriously going to use "the industry" as your argument here? That's just plain silly.
We're not talking "the industry" here. We're talking about history. Does this mean that if you say that Susquehanna is in the process of selling KPO, you're right, because KNBR is the successor to KPO? Since they both operated on 680 kHz., that follows your argument, doesn't it?
Then why don't we say that Infinity just launched KMPX as 106.9 Free FM? After all, "the industry considers the allocation to be the station, not the calls." And I sure love listening to Air America on KABL/960, not to mention the Lite Rock on 1260/KYA!
The call letters are the legal placeholder for the station at that point in history. Otherwise, why didn't you say that "Emmis bought KNAI from NBC in 1988 and spun it to Bedford in early 1991"? If call letters aren't considered as part of the historical equation, that would make your argument technically correct, since KFRC-FM's calls at one time were KNAI.
You could even, for that matter, say that "Emmis bought KXXX (X-100) from NBC in 1988 and spun it to Bedford in early 1991, who switched it to KXXX (X-100)." After all, it's the allocation, not the calls. Right?
If you had said "Emmis bought 99.7 from NBC in 1988" you would have been at least basically correct. Otherwise, your argument is very weak.
Next thing you're going to try to tell me is that nobody — nobody — in "the industry" uses the term "Arbs" any more!
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Mr. Eduardo wrote:
> The FCC and the industry considers the allocation to be the
> station, not the calls...
Wait a minute. With all due respect, are you seriously going to use "the industry" as your argument here? That's just plain silly.
We're not talking "the industry" here. We're talking about history. Does this mean that if you say that Susquehanna is in the process of selling KPO, you're right, because KNBR is the successor to KPO? Since they both operated on 680 kHz., that follows your argument, doesn't it?
Then why don't we say that Infinity just launched KMPX as 106.9 Free FM? After all, "the industry considers the allocation to be the station, not the calls." And I sure love listening to Air America on KABL/960, not to mention the Lite Rock on 1260/KYA!
The call letters are the legal placeholder for the station at that point in history. Otherwise, why didn't you say that "Emmis bought KNAI from NBC in 1988 and spun it to Bedford in early 1991"? If call letters aren't considered as part of the historical equation, that would make your argument technically correct, since KFRC-FM's calls at one time were KNAI.
You could even, for that matter, say that "Emmis bought KXXX (X-100) from NBC in 1988 and spun it to Bedford in early 1991, who switched it to KXXX (X-100)." After all, it's the allocation, not the calls. Right?
If you had said "Emmis bought 99.7 from NBC in 1988" you would have been at least basically correct. Otherwise, your argument is very weak.
Next thing you're going to try to tell me is that nobody — nobody — in "the industry" uses the term "Arbs" any more!
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And after this exercise in semantics ...
... we still haven't established what the historically accurate timeline is for the multiple transfers of the station now known as KFRC-FM.
Or if we have, I've lost it in all the nitpicking.
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... we still haven't established what the historically accurate timeline is for the multiple transfers of the station now known as KFRC-FM.
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Re: KFRC-FM (99.7) Historical Timeline
1946: FCC issues a Conditional Grant to NBC to build KPO-FM on 98.1 FM with 3 kW. Before the station goes on the air, the CG is changed, moving it to 99.7 with 45 kW as KNBC-FM.
June 1948: KNBC-FM makes its first broadcast from studios at the NBC Radio City building at 420 Taylor Street in San Francsico. The station's transmitter is co-located with KNBC (680 AM) in Belmont.
November 1962: KNBC-FM becomes KNBR-FM, duplicating the MOR programming of its AM sister.
November 1966: KNBR-FM switches to a separately-programmed Classical Music format.
1968: KNBR-FM begins stereo broadcasting, simulcasting KNBR-AM.
August 1975: KNBR-FM switches to an All News & Information format as KNAI.
January 1977: NBC drops its all-news format, and KNAI becomes KYUU, broadcasting the "FM 100 Plan" format from Peters Productions.
1982: KYUU switches to CHR.
June 9, 1986: KYUU's license is acquired by General Electric in a corporate merger.
October 7, 1988: Emmis Broadcasting purchases KYUU and four other former NBC stations for $121.5-million. KYUU becomes KXXX ("X-100").
March 1, 1991: Bedford Broadcasting buys KXXX from Emmis for $18.5-million. One day later, KXXX becomes Oldies KFRC-FM. (Bedford's corporate name was changed to Coast Broadcasting later in the year.)
August 1993: KFRC AM & FM are sold to John Hayes and Alliance Broadcasting for $20.15-million; Hayes had been GM of KYUU from 1978-1984.
January 1996: Alliance sells KFRC AM & FM and KYCY-FM plus other stations in the group to Infinity Broadcasting for $275-million.
December 31, 1996: Infinity merges with Westinghouse/CBS.
December 1998: The Westinghouse/CBS radio group becomes Infinity Broadcasting under Mel Karmazin.
May 4, 2000: The CBS/Infinity radio group merges with Viacom International.
November 2005: The CBS/Infinity/Viacom radio group is spun off to become CBS Radio.
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1946: FCC issues a Conditional Grant to NBC to build KPO-FM on 98.1 FM with 3 kW. Before the station goes on the air, the CG is changed, moving it to 99.7 with 45 kW as KNBC-FM.
June 1948: KNBC-FM makes its first broadcast from studios at the NBC Radio City building at 420 Taylor Street in San Francsico. The station's transmitter is co-located with KNBC (680 AM) in Belmont.
November 1962: KNBC-FM becomes KNBR-FM, duplicating the MOR programming of its AM sister.
November 1966: KNBR-FM switches to a separately-programmed Classical Music format.
1968: KNBR-FM begins stereo broadcasting, simulcasting KNBR-AM.
August 1975: KNBR-FM switches to an All News & Information format as KNAI.
January 1977: NBC drops its all-news format, and KNAI becomes KYUU, broadcasting the "FM 100 Plan" format from Peters Productions.
1982: KYUU switches to CHR.
June 9, 1986: KYUU's license is acquired by General Electric in a corporate merger.
October 7, 1988: Emmis Broadcasting purchases KYUU and four other former NBC stations for $121.5-million. KYUU becomes KXXX ("X-100").
March 1, 1991: Bedford Broadcasting buys KXXX from Emmis for $18.5-million. One day later, KXXX becomes Oldies KFRC-FM. (Bedford's corporate name was changed to Coast Broadcasting later in the year.)
August 1993: KFRC AM & FM are sold to John Hayes and Alliance Broadcasting for $20.15-million; Hayes had been GM of KYUU from 1978-1984.
January 1996: Alliance sells KFRC AM & FM and KYCY-FM plus other stations in the group to Infinity Broadcasting for $275-million.
December 31, 1996: Infinity merges with Westinghouse/CBS.
December 1998: The Westinghouse/CBS radio group becomes Infinity Broadcasting under Mel Karmazin.
May 4, 2000: The CBS/Infinity radio group merges with Viacom International.
November 2005: The CBS/Infinity/Viacom radio group is spun off to become CBS Radio.
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Re: KFRC-FM (99.7) Historical Timeline
> 1946: FCC issues a Conditional Grant to NBC to build KPO-FM
> on 98.1 FM with 3 kW. Before the station goes on the air,
> the CG is changed, moving it to 99.7 with 45 kW as KNBC-FM.
>
> June 1948: KNBC-FM makes its first broadcast from studios at
> the NBC Radio City building at 420 Taylor Street in San
> Francsico. The station's transmitter is co-located with KNBC
> (680 AM) in Belmont.
>
> November 1962: KNBC-FM becomes KNBR-FM, duplicating the MOR
> programming of its AM sister.
>
> November 1966: KNBR-FM switches to a separately-programmed
> Classical Music format.
>
> 1968: KNBR-FM begins stereo broadcasting, simulcasting
> KNBR-AM.
>
> August 1975: KNBR-FM switches to an All News & Information
> format as KNAI.
>
> January 1977: NBC drops its all-news format, and KNAI
> becomes KYUU, broadcasting the "FM 100 Plan" format from
> Peters Productions.
>
> 1982: KYUU switches to CHR.
>
> June 9, 1986: KYUU's license is acquired by General Electric
> in a corporate merger.
>
> October 7, 1988: Emmis Broadcasting purchases KYUU and four
> other former NBC stations for $121.5-million. KYUU becomes
> KXXX ("X-100").
>
> March 1, 1991: Bedford Broadcasting buys KXXX from Emmis for
> $18.5-million. One day later, KXXX becomes Oldies KFRC-FM.
> (Bedford's corporate name was changed to Coast Broadcasting
> later in the year.)
>
> August 1993: KFRC AM & FM are sold to John Hayes and
> Alliance Broadcasting for $20.15-million; Hayes had been GM
> of KYUU from 1978-1984.
>
> January 1996: Alliance sells KFRC AM & FM and KYCY-FM plus
> other stations in the group to Infinity Broadcasting for
> $275-million.
>
> December 31, 1996: Infinity merges with Westinghouse/CBS.
>
> December 1998: The Westinghouse/CBS radio group becomes
> Infinity Broadcasting under Mel Karmazin.
>
> May 4, 2000: The CBS/Infinity radio group merges with Viacom
> International.
>
> November 2005: The CBS/Infinity/Viacom radio group is spun
> off to become CBS Radio.
So it _was_ owend by Emmis.
This was one of the NBC radio properties Emmis picked up, thus acquainting Randy Bongarten and Jeff Smulyan; Bongarten would later hear Emmis International and then the TV division.
> 1946: FCC issues a Conditional Grant to NBC to build KPO-FM
> on 98.1 FM with 3 kW. Before the station goes on the air,
> the CG is changed, moving it to 99.7 with 45 kW as KNBC-FM.
>
> June 1948: KNBC-FM makes its first broadcast from studios at
> the NBC Radio City building at 420 Taylor Street in San
> Francsico. The station's transmitter is co-located with KNBC
> (680 AM) in Belmont.
>
> November 1962: KNBC-FM becomes KNBR-FM, duplicating the MOR
> programming of its AM sister.
>
> November 1966: KNBR-FM switches to a separately-programmed
> Classical Music format.
>
> 1968: KNBR-FM begins stereo broadcasting, simulcasting
> KNBR-AM.
>
> August 1975: KNBR-FM switches to an All News & Information
> format as KNAI.
>
> January 1977: NBC drops its all-news format, and KNAI
> becomes KYUU, broadcasting the "FM 100 Plan" format from
> Peters Productions.
>
> 1982: KYUU switches to CHR.
>
> June 9, 1986: KYUU's license is acquired by General Electric
> in a corporate merger.
>
> October 7, 1988: Emmis Broadcasting purchases KYUU and four
> other former NBC stations for $121.5-million. KYUU becomes
> KXXX ("X-100").
>
> March 1, 1991: Bedford Broadcasting buys KXXX from Emmis for
> $18.5-million. One day later, KXXX becomes Oldies KFRC-FM.
> (Bedford's corporate name was changed to Coast Broadcasting
> later in the year.)
>
> August 1993: KFRC AM & FM are sold to John Hayes and
> Alliance Broadcasting for $20.15-million; Hayes had been GM
> of KYUU from 1978-1984.
>
> January 1996: Alliance sells KFRC AM & FM and KYCY-FM plus
> other stations in the group to Infinity Broadcasting for
> $275-million.
>
> December 31, 1996: Infinity merges with Westinghouse/CBS.
>
> December 1998: The Westinghouse/CBS radio group becomes
> Infinity Broadcasting under Mel Karmazin.
>
> May 4, 2000: The CBS/Infinity radio group merges with Viacom
> International.
>
> November 2005: The CBS/Infinity/Viacom radio group is spun
> off to become CBS Radio.
So it _was_ owend by Emmis.
This was one of the NBC radio properties Emmis picked up, thus acquainting Randy Bongarten and Jeff Smulyan; Bongarten would later hear Emmis International and then the TV division.
Re: KFRC-FM (99.7) Historical Timeline
> So it _was_ owend by Emmis. {sic}
No, the station on 99.7 was owned by Emmis. But neither NBC nor Emmis owned KFRC, as you seem to believe.
If you would like to keep this up, I can clear my schedule and go on with it forever, and you'll still never be right in saying that Emmis bought KFRC from NBC.
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> So it _was_ owend by Emmis. {sic}
No, the station on 99.7 was owned by Emmis. But neither NBC nor Emmis owned KFRC, as you seem to believe.
If you would like to keep this up, I can clear my schedule and go on with it forever, and you'll still never be right in saying that Emmis bought KFRC from NBC.
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MORE SEMANTICS??!!??
> If you would like to keep this up, I can clear my schedule
> and go on with it forever, and you'll still never be right
> in saying that Emmis bought KFRC from NBC.
But the station presently known as KFRC was the same station that Emmis bought from NBC, as you proved by posting (thank you) the timeline.
Now, would you stop nitpicking? Or do you want to go on that list I keep of posters I give only a short leash to?
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> If you would like to keep this up, I can clear my schedule
> and go on with it forever, and you'll still never be right
> in saying that Emmis bought KFRC from NBC.
But the station presently known as KFRC was the same station that Emmis bought from NBC, as you proved by posting (thank you) the timeline.
Now, would you stop nitpicking? Or do you want to go on that list I keep of posters I give only a short leash to?
And you people wonder why I have such a short temper.<P ID="signature">______________
</P>
Re: MORE SEMANTICS??!!??
you guys are both so danged determined to be RIGHT.
are you brothers or something?
give it up already!
lol
> > If you would like to keep this up, I can clear my schedule
>
> > and go on with it forever, and you'll still never be right
>
> > in saying that Emmis bought KFRC from NBC.
>
> But the station presently known as KFRC was the same station
> that Emmis bought from NBC, as you proved by posting (thank
> you) the timeline.
>
> Now, would you stop nitpicking? Or do you want to go on
> that list I keep of posters I give only a short leash to?
>
> And you people wonder why I have such a short temper.
>
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you guys are both so danged determined to be RIGHT.
are you brothers or something?
give it up already!
lol
> > If you would like to keep this up, I can clear my schedule
>
> > and go on with it forever, and you'll still never be right
>
> > in saying that Emmis bought KFRC from NBC.
>
> But the station presently known as KFRC was the same station
> that Emmis bought from NBC, as you proved by posting (thank
> you) the timeline.
>
> Now, would you stop nitpicking? Or do you want to go on
> that list I keep of posters I give only a short leash to?
>
> And you people wonder why I have such a short temper.
>
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