what does everyone think, who is the best

[RunWithScissors]

Not a survey, just was curious to know what rocker is the best in your opinion, MMR, RFF or YSP. One is reborn, one is new and one has been around for ages. It seems both YSP and MMR are going after RFF, I noticed more alternative cuts on these two rockers, many of the tunes are right off WRFF's playlist, the heavy metal/classic/rock is not as much as years back, shouldn't YSP/MMR be spinnng the new Sixx AM and Springsteen singles. So which one do you all think is the best, I vote on WRFF, hands down, which plays new Alternative music and the best of the last 30 years.

 

[raydofan]

None of 'em.

 

[drog123]

1. WRFF
2. WYSP
3. WMMR

WRFF needs to lose some of their clunkers, like Shawn Mullins Lullaby which is playing right now, give me a break, same with If I had A Million Dollars, Please! WYSP going back to rock was long over due. I think Kidd Chris needs to play at least some music during his show. WMMR is WMMR, they aren't going to change, even though I dislike them. They are going to continue with their constant chatter, shorter music sets and unbelievably long commercial breaks.

But at least now there are 3 choices on regular radio for people want some form of rock, which is a good thing.

 

[K-Tel]

"Lullaby" and If "I Had A Million Dollars" were both played on Alternative stations in the 90s. Both songs fit well on Radio 104.5. And to tell you the truth, even though I tend to lean on the heavy side of rock, I love both songs.

 

[eyg2181]

1. WMMR (i like my modern rock and my classic rock on the same station)
2. Radio 1045 (see response at the end of message)
3. WYSP (still one of my favorites)


they say they are "NEW" rock but yet, they play the police and the cure. thats classic rock, which is fine, but if your going to play classic rock, play more that 2 or 3 bands. the thing that bothers me the most, is they play u2 the cure and the police, but no Led Zeppelin, Boston, Bad Copmpany, or Pink Floyd, and they are a HELL of alot coller and heavier that at least u2 and the cure. (i like the police though).

if i were to add the classic rock stations it would look more like this

1. WMMR
2. 105.7 The Hawk
3. MGK
4. Radio 104.5
5. WYSP

 

[Wil]

I think all rock radio fans in the area are the winners. As far as who is the best, I think it is too soon.

YSP has been sort of back for less than a week, their playlists so far have been boring and predictable. (I do like having them back though, and hope they go back to their harder edge sooner than later). YSP needs to stay clear of all classic rock. There is enough of that on MGK, MMR and BEN.


One of the biggest knocks against MMR is that they have been around forever. What is wrong with that? It is refreshing that they are not the flavor of the week. I'm glad they aren't the station that was easy-talk-classic rock-rock-talk-spanish-then rock talk again. There is enough of that already. I wish they would leave the classic rock to ister station MGK, but their motto is "everything that rocks". (The loads of commercials mean that they are making big $$$$, so that is good for business. If there ratings decrease dramatically, look for a return of the 20 song music marathons.)

RFF is very refreshing. They remind me of Y a little. It is still too soon to predict if the format will have longevity, but they are off to a great start. Sooner or later they will have to play more commercials, so they can make some $$$ and stay on the air. 104.5 has been a revolving format door, it would be nice to have something steady there for awhile.

Competition should make all 3 stations sharper. Should. MMR has already beefed up their playlist. I heard a Metallica song on Sunday from Master of Puppets. It is nice to hear a Metallica song on MMR that is not called "Enter Sandman" for once.

There is my 2 1/2 cents. Enjoy!

 

[MarcB]

I was in the Philly area for 3 days back in July. While I didn't listen any station exclusively while I was there I liked 104.5 and the now-defunct (on terrestial radio anyway) SKIN Radio.

 

[carnyfeet]

Going strictly by playlists:

WYSP Top 10 Songs

1. Kid Rock - So Hott
2. Linkin Park - What I've Done
3. The White Stripes - Icky Thump
4. Foo Fighters - The Pretender
5. 30 Seconds - To Mars The Kill
6. Finger Eleven - Paralyzer
7. Three Days - Grace Never Too Late
8. Tool - The Pot
9.Smashing Pumpkins - Tarantula
10. Queens Of The Stone Age - No One Knows

WMMR Top 10 Songs

1. Incubus - Dig
2. Linkin Park - What I've Done
3. Finger Eleven - Paralyzer
4. Velvet Revolver - The Last Fight
5. Puddle of Mudd - Famous
6. Foo Fighters - The Pretender
7. Papa Roach - Time Is Running Out
8. Breaking Benjamin - Breath
9. Seether - Fake It
10. Chevelle - Get It

WRFF Top 10 Songs

1. Social Distortion - Far Behind
2. Finger Eleven - Paralyzer
3. Nine Inch Nails - Capital G
4. The Killers - Read My Mind
5. The Killers - When You Were Young
6. The White Stripes - Icky Thump
7. Three Days Grace - Never Too Late
8. Smashing Pumpkins - Tarantula
9. Paramore - Misery Business
10. Snow Patrol - Shut Your Eyes

Y-Rock on XPN Top 10 Songs

1. Rilo Kiley - The Moneymaker
2. Foo Fighters - The Pretenders
3. Tegan and Sara - Back In Your Head
4. Beck - Timebomb
5. The White Stripes - Icky Thump
6. Yeah Yeah Yeahs - Rockers to Swallow
7. Interpol - The Heinrich Maneuver
8. Jimmy Eat World - Casino
9. The New Pornographers - All The Things That Go To Make Heaven And Earth
10. Editors - Smokers Outside The Hospital Doors

Songs in common between the four:
White Stripes (YSP, RFF, Y-Rock); Foo Fighters (YSP, MMR); Linkin Park (YSP, MMR); Finger Eleven (YSP, RFF, MMR); Three Days Grace (YSP, RFF); Smashing Pumpkins (YSP, RFF)

I think it's surprising to look at just the top ten of WYSP and WMMR right next to one another. If I had had to guess, I would have probably mistaken MMR's list for something that would play on WYSP. It's filled with a lot more of what I guess could be categorized as "nu-metal" - Seether, Breaking Benjamin, Puddle of Mudd, Finger Eleven, etc. WYSP's list in their first 1/2 week is quite a bit safer, with singles from the White Stripes and Foo Fighters I wouldn't expect to be as high as they are. I think it says a lot about the station and their listeners that Kid Rock's new single is #1. Is that really what they're gunning for? Does WYSP think that brand of southern-fried rock/rap is going to fly in Philly? Also, what the hell is a six year old Queens of the Stone Age song doing in the Top 10, especially when that band has an outstanding new album out just a few weeks ago?

WMMR's Top 10 list is a little stale. If I checked back on posts I made with their Top 10 a couple weeks ago, I'd be surprised if it weren't the same 10 songs stacked a little differently. If I am WMMR, I need to get a little bit more dangerous with my playlist. I'm not the ones trying to establish an identity and core audience, so mix it up a little bit. Play some more new stuff and make it clear to your listeners that you're playing songs that no one else is. If you really really want to go the "nu-metal" route, then make it clear to your listeners that the playlist is going to be heavier than WYSP could hope theirs to be. Try not to forfeit any audiences that you acquired when 94.1 flipped to talk two years ago, and you'll have the upper hand.

WRFF is still trying to figure itself out. I'm impressed to see Social Distortion at the top of their Top 10, but depressed to see two Killers songs that are almost a year old playing #4/#5 back to back. Do you really want a vanilla-sounding band like the Killers to define your format for you? Other than that, the most adventurous of the three commercial stations. That Nine Inch Nails song at #3 is an outstanding protest song. In fact, kudos to the stations that are playing the new Foo Fighters, Smashing Pumpkins, and White Stripes as well. Those have been some of the best rock albums to have come out this year, and people are still wrapped up in what Papa Roach is doing? Really?

I included Y-Rock on XPN in here because A.) I've come to love the station since I started listening to it online - I was excited to see the "f-you" attitude the old Y-100 staff had in keeping the Y-100 brand alive and morphing it into the station it's become today. They sound excellent because they no longer have to worry about what corporate wants played on the air. Also, B.) I'm biased, because I now volunteer as a DJ for the station. Songs that I'm genuinely surprised that no other station has picked up yet: Beck, Jimmy Eat World, and to a lesser extent, Interpol. Jimmy Eat World was a Y-100 veteran band that you would've thought ought to have been picked up by WMMR and 104.5 by now, and Beck is just Beck (who doesn't like Beck?).

That's just my take from a purely musical perspective. From a personality perspective, I can't stand YSP's jocks (especially Chris), MMR is hit and miss (like Preston and Steve, like Matt Cord, indifferent about Pierre Robert, indifferent about Jaxon) and WRFF really needs to get someone with a pulse in the studio full-time soon. I can tell when the voicetracks are coming in from San Antonio, and it drives me nuts when I hear that. Y-Rock's staff is full of volunteers that tend to be a little unpolished in their delivery at times (myself included), but I give us a pass because we make up for it in passion for the music we're playing. Also, since RFF has abandoned their stance on commercial-free music, we're the only ones spinning tunes uninterrupted.

I'm going to go with Y-Rock on XPN (biased! I know!) and I encourage everyone to take a second listen to that station to see how they match up. WMMR, WYSP, and WRFF could use some time to re-evaluate their playlists in comparison to one another's so that maybe all three could pick a different sub-genre of rock to gravitate around. WYSP is the natural choice to play more active rock and metal, WMMR ought to dedicate more time to local music and mix up the playlist more often, and WRFF should, theoretically, be one step ahead of both of those stations in playing new alternative rock. Social D at #1 is a step in the right direction for them. For me, I'm going to stick with Y-Rock, which is usually 2 steps ahead (and to the left!) of those other guys.

 

[Magnum]

My vote is WRFF. I've been listening to them on a regular basis since they signed on, and I like their overall sound. I did add WYSP back onto my presets, but WRFF is my favorite. I like the new rock that RFF is playing.

 

[content]

Have to agree with WRFF. YSP would get a vote too if they embraced the harder sound which MMR and RFF won't quite touch. Outside of specific moments with Preston and Steve, MMR blows.