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What ever happened to CKFH Toronto? and CHOW Welland?

J

jefflaurence

In the late 60's very early 70's a lesser known competitor to CHUM, but really solid station was Foster Hewitt's CKFH at 1430. At the time I think they only ran 5KW, and I spent some fun times there..Most nights the music was stopped for Maple Leaf Hockey of course, but the station sounded good.. Any input as to what transpired with that station? What is it doing now?

Also..whatever happened to the 1470 out of Welland, CHOW.. I heard them a lot at night, and I remember it was a nice facility!
 
CKFH morphed into CJCL, playing Music of Your Life, by the early 80s. Somewhere along the way it went to 50 kw, albeit a very directional 50 aimed north from Toronto Island. By the early 90s it went all sports, and eventually (by way of a frequency swap) CJCL became "FAN 590," which it remains, and the former CKEY 590 had become CKYC, doing country on 1430. 1430 is now mostly Chinese as CHKT.

CHOW eventually moved to FM on 91.7, and several formats later it's "Giant FM," CIXL, playing adult hits.
 
Scott Fybush said:
CKFH morphed into CJCL, playing Music of Your Life, by the early 80s. Somewhere along the way it went to 50 kw, albeit a very directional 50 aimed north from Toronto Island. By the early 90s it went all sports, and eventually (by way of a frequency swap) CJCL became "FAN 590," which it remains, and the former CKEY 590 had become CKYC, doing country on 1430. 1430 is now mostly Chinese as CHKT.

CHOW eventually moved to FM on 91.7, and several formats later it's "Giant FM," CIXL, playing adult hits.
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Thank-you Mr. Fybush.
To add to this information, there is also another good write up on Toronto radio here:

http://rockradioscrapbook.ca/stations.html

The Rock radio scrapbook also has an aircheck of the end of 1430 as a music station here:

http://rockradioscrapbook.ca/cjclend.ram
and
the official launch of the Fan 1430 here: http://rockradioscrapbook.ca/fan1430launch.ram
 
the "old" C-HOW/welland:

oookay, soo we all know the success story
of "91.7/FM" ( there spirit carried them
to a gigantic future : )
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but what has happened...what will happen to ..
am1470 ??
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is it avail ?? if *anyone* wants to sink the money into it?
-could a welland/port colborne area high school make
the efforts to acquire the am 1470
 
It's pretty much the same answer every time you ask this question :D

AM facilities aren't subject to a table of allocations the way FM is, regardless of which side of the border you're on. Canada continues to "notify" the old CHOW facility internationally, protecting the frequency for future use in Canada.

It's unlikely (and that's optimistic) that 1470 will ever actually get reused in southern Ontario. I believe someone applied for it a few years back as a new ethnic channel in the Toronto area. But unlike the FCC's system, the CRTC looks at the existing finances in a market before authorizing new stations...and they decided at the time that there was already as much ethnic radio as the market could profitably sustain.

It would be very hard, verging on impossible, to make a coherent case to the CRTC that you could sustain another local station for Welland on 1470. Remember that the start-up costs would include rebuilding the multiple-tower (what was it, 7 towers?) directional array, which in turn sat on some fairly expensive land. If CHSC can't make a go of it serving the larger St. Catharines area, what chance would a revived 1470 have? Find a way to answer that question, and maybe the CRTC would grant you a license - if you were Canadian.

As for donating 1470 to a local school, that won't happen either, thanks to the way Canada regulates its stations. There is no "CHOW 1470" license to be donated. That AM license was moved to the FM dial and is now CIXL 91.7. Same license - and thus no separate AM license that could somehow be donated...not that the CRTC generally allows such donations, anyway. (The closest I've ever seen them come was a decade ago in Victoria, BC, when they allowed a commercial AM station, CJVI 900, to swap facilities with a college-run low-power FM station, CKMO 103.1.)

Bottom line: 1470 is dead, and there's no reason to expect it to come back.
 
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