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Maybe one of these days I'll have the courage to try this. I like buying stuff when I can see it.

If there was a qualified installer, the store would have told me.
Dude, albeit kind of old school, but here you are on-line chatting about old technology like radio. You regularly claim to surf the Internet looking for topics to post on Wikipedia, and yet you won't buy an outdoor antenna kit on-line because you want to touch it? Sounds like you'd rather play the victim than get off your backside and actually do something.
 
Dude, albeit kind of old school, but here you are on-line chatting about old technology like radio. You regularly claim to surf the Internet looking for topics to post on Wikipedia, and yet you won't buy an outdoor antenna kit on-line because you want to touch it? Sounds like you'd rather play the victim than get off your backside and actually do something.
And don't forget complaining about songs.
If there was a qualified installer, the store would have told me.
Maybe they like the installers they know and didn't want to subject them to the experience.
 
Dude, albeit kind of old school, but here you are on-line chatting about old technology like radio. You regularly claim to surf the Internet looking for topics to post on Wikipedia, and yet you won't buy an outdoor antenna kit on-line because you want to touch it? Sounds like you'd rather play the victim than get off your backside and actually do something.
I'm not ready to buy stuff online. When I can see the people in the store recommending it and someone to install it, that's when I can go through with it.

Wikipedia is different. If I get it wrong, someone else can correct it. Or not.
 
I'm not ready to buy stuff online. When I can see the people in the store recommending it and someone to install it, that's when I can go through with it.
Wow, the term David mentioned seems to fit: Luddite. And before MissTuned or other's jump on me for being mean, here is the modern definition of Luddite:
"Luddite” is now a blanket term used to describe people who dislike new technology, but its origins date back to an early 19th-century labor movement that railed against the ways that mechanized manufactures and their unskilled laborers undermined the skilled craftsmen of the day."
Wikipedia is different. If I get it wrong, someone else can correct it. Or not.
Yet again you're making my point about the reliability of Wikipedia.
 
Wow, the term David mentioned seems to fit: Luddite. And before MissTuned or other's jump on me for being mean, here is the modern definition of Luddite:
"Luddite” is now a blanket term used to describe people who dislike new technology, but its origins date back to an early 19th-century labor movement that railed against the ways that mechanized manufactures and their unskilled laborers undermined the skilled craftsmen of the day."
Cable works. The TiVo I have works. It won't work with an antenna, I'm told. There is an old TiVo that I have to clear out before I can upgrade it. When I do, I'll consider your advice. The Writer's Strike will help because there will be less to watch. There is a second TiVo I can clear out when I have the time to do that. I need multiple antennas because there are stations in different directions. And currently one antenna works for one channel, and another works for another. If I could make the one antenna work for all the channels, I would be fine. But none of these channels are the ones I want to watch for most programs. For that I need the outdoor antenna that I was reluctant to try.

When I asked TiVo about something I could use with an antenna they couldn't recommend anything they sold. They were going to send me to another company. No thanks.
 
If I'm not mistaken, you were able to talk a clerk at the fleabag motel across the street, to come over to your fleabag motel room and fix the ceiling fan. Why don't you use your awesome power of persuasion to get somebody to put up an antenna for you?

Maybe that fleabag motel clerk could do it...
I'm not sure what the job titles were, and I don't know how to find out who these people were.

I've been asked to show my appreciation to them, and I was going to stay in their motel, but no one was there when I tried to check in when the people in my old place weren't there like they promised after lunch.
 
When I asked TiVo about something I could use with an antenna they couldn't recommend anything they sold. They were going to send me to another company. No thanks.
You must have been talking to the wrong person.

 
I use an (intended for indoor use) antenna outside and 2 DTV STBs, the RF out from one feeds the RF in on my (thrift shop) VHS HiFi VCR and the stereo audio + video from the other STB feeds the line in (for stereo/surround sound) on the same VCR.

I also use an HDMI -> composite video/audio converter to time shift programs from (HBO)max (PC streaming) using the same VCR (I do use Super VHS and Digital VHS blank tape though), as long as I can get a working VCR, I see no need to change to a magnetic disc based recording system.


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I'm not ready to buy stuff online. When I can see the people in the store recommending it and someone to install it, that's when I can go through with it.
A big advantage of buying online is that you can compare many similar products, read reviews and make reasoned decisions.

In technology, whether it is a an upgrade for a "big screen" TV or an SSD or video card or even something basic like a power supply, I would never buy in a store as the last person I'd want product advice on is a floor salesperson at Best Buy, Costco or Sam's Club..
 
Agreed, and I think that eventually phones will take over everything -- they'll replace money, debit cards, keys, document file cabinets, and desktop and laptop computers. The computing power inside most phones is tremendous compared even to desktops 20 years ago.
Fun fact: Cell phones and certainly tablets are already capable of all you mention. There's an app and/or peripherals to make all these things happen. Even a decade ago I had a co-worker who wanted to get rid of all paper and files in his office. He scanned everything and only worked with electronic files and documents. Not a single sheet of paper from that day forward; it all lived on his tablet or in the cloud where he could access everything he needed from any connected device, including his phone.

Bonus fun fact: Your cell phone has far more computing power than the Space Shuttlles had when they flew their first several missions into space.
 
I don't hear anyone demanding a return to analog TVs.
Well, I won't demand that analog TV come back (what's done is done), but I will say that I miss it dearly.

For me, OTA TV lost most of its appeal when the analog signals went dark.

Digital TV is okay I guess, but it's just not the same (and the digital cliff effect is super annoying; I remember getting quite watchable signals despite there being loads of static (I could make out the picture and the sound came in fairly clearly), but as others have pointed out, with digital (at least as implemented by ATSC 1.x), you need to have a pretty much perfect signal or else you get pretty huge dropouts and freezes. Even the rain fade that satellite TV is prone to isn't as bad!

Of course, it varies from TV to TV. While none handle weak signals particularly well in my (granted, rather limited) experience, some do seem to handle them more gracefully than others, approximating the missing parts of the signal and filling them in, as opposed to just blanking the whole screen when a few pixels go missing.

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Wow, the term David mentioned seems to fit: Luddite. And before MissTuned or other's jump on me for being mean, here is the modern definition of Luddite:
"Luddite” is now a blanket term used to describe people who dislike new technology, but its origins date back to an early 19th-century labor movement that railed against the ways that mechanized manufactures and their unskilled laborers undermined the skilled craftsmen of the day."
I'm feeling more and more like a luddite myself nowadays!

I stopped liking modern technology sometime around 2017. As far as the newest stuff goes, I use it when I have to, but I try to avoid most of it when I can, which thankfully isn't too difficult so far (it seems things haven't advanced to much since 2019 or so, at least not until this whole AI and VR hype got going; I will be avoiding VR as much as I possibly can, but AI I will probably have to relent on sooner or later, since it's popping up virtually EVERYWHERE nowadays it seems).

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I would never buy in a store as the last person I'd want product advice on is a floor salesperson at Best Buy, Costco or Sam's Club..
Funny you should say that. Stopped by BestBuy looking for a simple USB-C to Lightning cable for charging my phone. Of course, they were out. Went over to the flat panel TV area to check out their selection. Young guy asked me if I had any questions. Not a big Samsung TV fan myself, I asked him what the difference was between Samsung's Q-LED and the LG or Sony O-LED. The BestBuy sales guy said 'nothing'. I went on to explain to him that there was a huge difference; that Q-LED was still a conventional LCD display but with a different and larger LED backlight. O-LED used tiny individual LED's for each pixel of the display with no need for a backlight or liquid crystals. He started glazing over when I explained the difference between one being 'emissive' and the other being self-emissive.
Ended up buying my Lightning cable at the Home Depot down the street.
 
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