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Nertz
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What happened to Hawaii Five-O on WFMZ, which aired weekdays at 2PM?
It seems to have been replaced by Happy Days?
It seems to have been replaced by Happy Days?
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bierkenstock
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> What happened to Hawaii Five-O on WFMZ, which aired weekdays
> at 2PM?
> It seems to have been replaced by Happy Days?
>
Maybe giving it a rest. They have cycled through the complete run several times. For most of the time channel 69 was running the show, channel 48 ran it, as well. That could cause over-exposure.
Or maybe channel 69 bought the show for x numbers of runs and they used them up. Maybe somebody else (TV Land, Hallmark, Spike) bought the rights to the show.
> at 2PM?
> It seems to have been replaced by Happy Days?
>
Maybe giving it a rest. They have cycled through the complete run several times. For most of the time channel 69 was running the show, channel 48 ran it, as well. That could cause over-exposure.
Or maybe channel 69 bought the show for x numbers of runs and they used them up. Maybe somebody else (TV Land, Hallmark, Spike) bought the rights to the show.
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wxctintern
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I don't live in the area, so I don't know when they got rid of Hawaii Five-O, but I do know when I was at the 2005 Writing.COM Convention a couple weeks ago at the Gateway Conference Center Holiday Inn in Bethlehem 69 was running Happy Days at 2PM. The sipn-off series L & S airs at 3PM.
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toby
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I was down there recently and I did watch Hawaii Five-O, and it happened to be Woe to Wo Fat which was the final episode of the series. It had to be a week or two ago.<P ID="signature">______________
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> What happened to Hawaii Five-O on WFMZ, which aired weekdays
> at 2PM?
> It seems to have been replaced by Happy Days?
>
It wasn't too long ago. They've added Brady Bunch and Happy Days in place of Hawaii Five-O.
It all began when they added Laverne & Shirley and Family Matters, after they lost the Star Trek series to TNN/Spike. Family Feud moved to primetime, replacing the lost Star Trek in primetime. Their primetime seems weaker with Family Feud, instead of Star Trek. I think of Family Feud as a stale game show, and PAX TV. Definitely not the draw it had when it was on CBS mornings.
Family Matters is also unusual, because the station seems to appeal more to white people. Cosby is black, but Cosby is in the classic category and the show had a well off sophisticated family that acted white (especially the children).
WFMZ's daytime is more classic TV, or like a WGN superstation now, more than it was 3 years back.
At one time, they aired 7th Heaven, but Fox Family later ABC Family snatched the series off broadcast. Fox bought the rights, but by the time the show began the channel was under Disney/ABC's ownership. After one of the daytime programs failed (forget the name, before Jane Pauley, but it ran on WCAU 10 also), they added Mork & Mindy.
They need to drop their religious programming and infomercials in the morning (WBPH WTVE WGTW and WMCN already cover that), rather, and run like a classic TV UHF indy during the morning and afternoon. Except for the afternoons, they are not in the leagues of WWME or those indys like KDFI though. The station owner wants lot of religious, and because of their beliefs they will refuse to air shows like Bewitched. I find it hypocritical they run Judge Judy and Judge Joe Brown, given that neither is really family-friendly.
> at 2PM?
> It seems to have been replaced by Happy Days?
>
It wasn't too long ago. They've added Brady Bunch and Happy Days in place of Hawaii Five-O.
It all began when they added Laverne & Shirley and Family Matters, after they lost the Star Trek series to TNN/Spike. Family Feud moved to primetime, replacing the lost Star Trek in primetime. Their primetime seems weaker with Family Feud, instead of Star Trek. I think of Family Feud as a stale game show, and PAX TV. Definitely not the draw it had when it was on CBS mornings.
Family Matters is also unusual, because the station seems to appeal more to white people. Cosby is black, but Cosby is in the classic category and the show had a well off sophisticated family that acted white (especially the children).
WFMZ's daytime is more classic TV, or like a WGN superstation now, more than it was 3 years back.
At one time, they aired 7th Heaven, but Fox Family later ABC Family snatched the series off broadcast. Fox bought the rights, but by the time the show began the channel was under Disney/ABC's ownership. After one of the daytime programs failed (forget the name, before Jane Pauley, but it ran on WCAU 10 also), they added Mork & Mindy.
They need to drop their religious programming and infomercials in the morning (WBPH WTVE WGTW and WMCN already cover that), rather, and run like a classic TV UHF indy during the morning and afternoon. Except for the afternoons, they are not in the leagues of WWME or those indys like KDFI though. The station owner wants lot of religious, and because of their beliefs they will refuse to air shows like Bewitched. I find it hypocritical they run Judge Judy and Judge Joe Brown, given that neither is really family-friendly.
> What happened to Hawaii Five-O on WFMZ, which aired weekdays
> at 2PM?
> It seems to have been replaced by Happy Days?
>
There were 278 episodes of "Hawaii 5-0" spread over the 12 years of its run, 1968 through 1980. Divide that number by five and you get, what, 55 weeks of programming if played one a day?
Perhaps they're "resting" the show or their license to broadcast it expired. It is in syndication, as you know.
For more data on "Hawaii 5-0" than anyone has a right to know, visit the official site: http://www.mjq.net/fiveo/
"Book 'em, Danno!"
> at 2PM?
> It seems to have been replaced by Happy Days?
>
There were 278 episodes of "Hawaii 5-0" spread over the 12 years of its run, 1968 through 1980. Divide that number by five and you get, what, 55 weeks of programming if played one a day?
Perhaps they're "resting" the show or their license to broadcast it expired. It is in syndication, as you know.
For more data on "Hawaii 5-0" than anyone has a right to know, visit the official site: http://www.mjq.net/fiveo/
"Book 'em, Danno!"
> Family Matters is also unusual, because the station seems to
> appeal more to white people. Cosby is black, but Cosby is
> in the classic category and the show had a well off
> sophisticated family that acted white (especially the
> children).>
First, a disclaimer: I do not live within WFMZ's signal reach, nor have I seen the station on cable during visits to South Jersey or the Philadephia area.
Having said that, what makes you say that "the station seems to appeal more to white people"? That comment, and the one which follows it, sounds very ignorant. Two sitcoms, both of which focused on Afro-American families, is suddenly unusual for this station to carry when compared to the rest of the schedule?
I guess you've never heard the term "general-entertainment independent", which WFMZ and others like it (including most of the former indies-turned Fox/WB/UPN affiliates) classify themselves as. They program for everyone, unlike the niche-narrowcasting of cable channels.
I am equally offended by your assertion that The Cosby Show featured a "a well off sophisticated family that acted white (especially the children)." Either you didn't watch the show enough, or you assume that middle-class African-Americans, and their families, lose their "blackness" once they leave the "ghetto" behind -- both in the literal and mental senses. You would probably feel the same way about The Jeffersons and The Fresh Prince of Bel-Air, two other shows that portrayed successful Blacks in a positive light. Do you think all Black sitcoms should have been similar to, say, Good Times? Please explain yourself.
BTW: IMO, Family Matters -- once the Steve Urkel character became the center of the show -- was a completely inferior sitcom compared to Cosby.<P ID="signature">______________
"Know your role and shut your mouth!!" -- The Rock</P>
> appeal more to white people. Cosby is black, but Cosby is
> in the classic category and the show had a well off
> sophisticated family that acted white (especially the
> children).>
First, a disclaimer: I do not live within WFMZ's signal reach, nor have I seen the station on cable during visits to South Jersey or the Philadephia area.
Having said that, what makes you say that "the station seems to appeal more to white people"? That comment, and the one which follows it, sounds very ignorant. Two sitcoms, both of which focused on Afro-American families, is suddenly unusual for this station to carry when compared to the rest of the schedule?
I guess you've never heard the term "general-entertainment independent", which WFMZ and others like it (including most of the former indies-turned Fox/WB/UPN affiliates) classify themselves as. They program for everyone, unlike the niche-narrowcasting of cable channels.
I am equally offended by your assertion that The Cosby Show featured a "a well off sophisticated family that acted white (especially the children)." Either you didn't watch the show enough, or you assume that middle-class African-Americans, and their families, lose their "blackness" once they leave the "ghetto" behind -- both in the literal and mental senses. You would probably feel the same way about The Jeffersons and The Fresh Prince of Bel-Air, two other shows that portrayed successful Blacks in a positive light. Do you think all Black sitcoms should have been similar to, say, Good Times? Please explain yourself.
BTW: IMO, Family Matters -- once the Steve Urkel character became the center of the show -- was a completely inferior sitcom compared to Cosby.<P ID="signature">______________
"Know your role and shut your mouth!!" -- The Rock</P>
> > Family Matters is also unusual, because the station seems
> to
> > appeal more to white people. Cosby is black, but Cosby
> is
> > in the classic category and the show had a well off
> > sophisticated family that acted white (especially the
> > children).>
>
> First, a disclaimer: I do not live within WFMZ's signal
> reach, nor have I seen the station on cable during visits to
> South Jersey or the Philadephia area.
>
> Having said that, what makes you say that "the station seems
> to appeal more to white people"? That comment, and the one
> which follows it, sounds very ignorant. Two sitcoms, both
> of which focused on Afro-American families, is suddenly
> unusual for this station to carry when compared to the rest
> of the schedule?
>
> I guess you've never heard the term "general-entertainment
> independent", which WFMZ and others like it (including most
> of the former indies-turned Fox/WB/UPN affiliates) classify
> themselves as. They program for everyone, unlike the
> niche-narrowcasting of cable channels.
>
> I am equally offended by your assertion that The Cosby Show
> featured a "a well off sophisticated family that acted white
> (especially the children)." Either you didn't watch the
> show enough, or you assume that middle-class
> African-Americans, and their families, lose their
> "blackness" once they leave the "ghetto" behind -- both in
> the literal and mental senses. You would probably feel the
> same way about The Jeffersons and The Fresh Prince of
> Bel-Air, two other shows that portrayed successful Blacks in
> a positive light. Do you think all Black sitcoms should
> have been similar to, say, Good Times? Please explain
> yourself.
>
> BTW: IMO, Family Matters -- once the Steve Urkel character
> became the center of the show -- was a completely inferior
> sitcom compared to Cosby.
>
Excuse me, you are setting up a straw man here. I never implied anyway that black sitcoms should only focus on lower income black families, like that of Good Times. My comments were on WFMZ's scheduling or programming selections. WFMZ is seen mostly by white people, in Berks and Lehigh Counties, which have less than 5% black population compared to Philadelphia county which is over 40%. It runs way lot of religious programming, and appeal of that is limited to certain groups (I won't say more).
Family Matters was unusual to me, because WFMZ avoided general entertainment but not oldy classic reruns, like Roseanne, Fresh Prince, Married with Children, 227, Amen, A Different World, In the House, Martin, Saved by the Bell, Charles in Charge, Full House, Boy Meets World, and so forth when WGTW or lesser stations could carry them, so I never thought WFMZ came close to being a general entertainment indy. The programming choices were usually family-friendly sugary G-rated squeeky clean like 7th Heaven, having strongly white appeal, Star Trek, and/or classic dramas. Cosby has a family friendly appeal, even today, so it wasn't unusual to me.
WGTW 48, WWAC, 17 and 57 (pre UPN and WB) would opt to carry all types of syndicated programming, but WFMZ appeared more selective. Also, besides the little entertainment in afternoons, it's mostly paid programming, religious, Lehigh and Berks news. Anways, the station does have a Spanish newscast, as the Lehigh Valley does have a higher percentage of Hispanics. WFMZ's owner, an extremely conservative Christian named Dick Dean, passed on carrying Bewitched believing it was satanic. They are paying big bucks for Judge Judy and Judge Joe Brown, likely to boost their newscasts, despite that the 2 are seen in Philly's Fox affiliate.
> to
> > appeal more to white people. Cosby is black, but Cosby
> is
> > in the classic category and the show had a well off
> > sophisticated family that acted white (especially the
> > children).>
>
> First, a disclaimer: I do not live within WFMZ's signal
> reach, nor have I seen the station on cable during visits to
> South Jersey or the Philadephia area.
>
> Having said that, what makes you say that "the station seems
> to appeal more to white people"? That comment, and the one
> which follows it, sounds very ignorant. Two sitcoms, both
> of which focused on Afro-American families, is suddenly
> unusual for this station to carry when compared to the rest
> of the schedule?
>
> I guess you've never heard the term "general-entertainment
> independent", which WFMZ and others like it (including most
> of the former indies-turned Fox/WB/UPN affiliates) classify
> themselves as. They program for everyone, unlike the
> niche-narrowcasting of cable channels.
>
> I am equally offended by your assertion that The Cosby Show
> featured a "a well off sophisticated family that acted white
> (especially the children)." Either you didn't watch the
> show enough, or you assume that middle-class
> African-Americans, and their families, lose their
> "blackness" once they leave the "ghetto" behind -- both in
> the literal and mental senses. You would probably feel the
> same way about The Jeffersons and The Fresh Prince of
> Bel-Air, two other shows that portrayed successful Blacks in
> a positive light. Do you think all Black sitcoms should
> have been similar to, say, Good Times? Please explain
> yourself.
>
> BTW: IMO, Family Matters -- once the Steve Urkel character
> became the center of the show -- was a completely inferior
> sitcom compared to Cosby.
>
Excuse me, you are setting up a straw man here. I never implied anyway that black sitcoms should only focus on lower income black families, like that of Good Times. My comments were on WFMZ's scheduling or programming selections. WFMZ is seen mostly by white people, in Berks and Lehigh Counties, which have less than 5% black population compared to Philadelphia county which is over 40%. It runs way lot of religious programming, and appeal of that is limited to certain groups (I won't say more).
Family Matters was unusual to me, because WFMZ avoided general entertainment but not oldy classic reruns, like Roseanne, Fresh Prince, Married with Children, 227, Amen, A Different World, In the House, Martin, Saved by the Bell, Charles in Charge, Full House, Boy Meets World, and so forth when WGTW or lesser stations could carry them, so I never thought WFMZ came close to being a general entertainment indy. The programming choices were usually family-friendly sugary G-rated squeeky clean like 7th Heaven, having strongly white appeal, Star Trek, and/or classic dramas. Cosby has a family friendly appeal, even today, so it wasn't unusual to me.
WGTW 48, WWAC, 17 and 57 (pre UPN and WB) would opt to carry all types of syndicated programming, but WFMZ appeared more selective. Also, besides the little entertainment in afternoons, it's mostly paid programming, religious, Lehigh and Berks news. Anways, the station does have a Spanish newscast, as the Lehigh Valley does have a higher percentage of Hispanics. WFMZ's owner, an extremely conservative Christian named Dick Dean, passed on carrying Bewitched believing it was satanic. They are paying big bucks for Judge Judy and Judge Joe Brown, likely to boost their newscasts, despite that the 2 are seen in Philly's Fox affiliate.
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ChildOfTheMedia
Guest
The contract did expire. And there were even fewer weeks of programming than valkyrie came up with. Paramount/Viacom (Paracom? Viamount?) offers stations two separate packages of Five-0: one with 175 digitally remastered shows (recently expanded to 209) and 74 non-remastered shows. WFMZ used the "175 Digital" package, which it was about 1/3 of the way through at the time of cancellation. "Woe To Wo Fat" was not scheduled to be the last episode shown on 69, but the decision was eventually made to give the show a proper sendoff, considering its long run.
> The contract did expire. And there were even fewer weeks of
> programming than valkyrie came up with. Paramount/Viacom
> (Paracom? Viamount?) offers stations two separate packages
> of Five-0: one with 175 digitally remastered shows (recently
> expanded to 209) and 74 non-remastered shows. WFMZ used the
> "175 Digital" package, which it was about 1/3 of the way
> through at the time of cancellation. "Woe To Wo Fat" was not
> scheduled to be the last episode shown on 69, but the
> decision was eventually made to give the show a proper
> sendoff, considering its long run.
>
Actually, you and I are both in error; there were 283 episodes. Here's the official lowdown from the "Hawaii 5-0" website, with explanation:
" The complete Hawaii Five-O package currently contains 283 episodes. Viacom had previously sold a package of 282 episodes that was spilt into two groups: Hawaii Five-O (200 episodes) and New Hawaii Five-O (82 episodes.) Beginning in September 1997, Hawaii Five-O was repackaged as a single group of 175 episodes; 174 culled from the original 282, plus 1 episode that was previously unavailable (one other episode, 6916 "Bored, She Hung Herself", remains unavailable.) These 175 episodes (referred to as Hawaii Five-O 175 Digital) have been digitally re-mastered. The remaining 108 episodes were also available, but they have not been re-mastered. Effective July 2005, 34 additional episodes were digitally re-mastered and edited for syndication. This changed the totals to 209 Digital and 74 non-digital."
So...283 seems to be the actual total. However, in not a single episode did Steve McGarett's hair ever move.
> programming than valkyrie came up with. Paramount/Viacom
> (Paracom? Viamount?) offers stations two separate packages
> of Five-0: one with 175 digitally remastered shows (recently
> expanded to 209) and 74 non-remastered shows. WFMZ used the
> "175 Digital" package, which it was about 1/3 of the way
> through at the time of cancellation. "Woe To Wo Fat" was not
> scheduled to be the last episode shown on 69, but the
> decision was eventually made to give the show a proper
> sendoff, considering its long run.
>
Actually, you and I are both in error; there were 283 episodes. Here's the official lowdown from the "Hawaii 5-0" website, with explanation:
" The complete Hawaii Five-O package currently contains 283 episodes. Viacom had previously sold a package of 282 episodes that was spilt into two groups: Hawaii Five-O (200 episodes) and New Hawaii Five-O (82 episodes.) Beginning in September 1997, Hawaii Five-O was repackaged as a single group of 175 episodes; 174 culled from the original 282, plus 1 episode that was previously unavailable (one other episode, 6916 "Bored, She Hung Herself", remains unavailable.) These 175 episodes (referred to as Hawaii Five-O 175 Digital) have been digitally re-mastered. The remaining 108 episodes were also available, but they have not been re-mastered. Effective July 2005, 34 additional episodes were digitally re-mastered and edited for syndication. This changed the totals to 209 Digital and 74 non-digital."
So...283 seems to be the actual total. However, in not a single episode did Steve McGarett's hair ever move.
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