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Neil
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They have been off the air for about a week now.
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> They have been off the air for about a week now.
>
> Neil
>
Is the long awaited move into the Savannah market underway?
G
>
> Neil
>
Is the long awaited move into the Savannah market underway?
G
R
Radio-X
Guest
> One would have thought they would just flip one on and turn
> the other facility off....
>
You would THINK...
But, that's not always the case. A recent move-in in Richmond, VA from a station in the middle of nowhere was off the air for almost two years until it signed on in September.
It just depends on many factors...
Cheers,
Radio-X<P ID="signature">______________
I wasn't born in the south, but I got down here as fast as I could...
</P>
> the other facility off....
>
You would THINK...
But, that's not always the case. A recent move-in in Richmond, VA from a station in the middle of nowhere was off the air for almost two years until it signed on in September.
It just depends on many factors...
Cheers,
Radio-X<P ID="signature">______________
I wasn't born in the south, but I got down here as fast as I could...
</P>
> > One would have thought they would just flip one on and
> turn
> > the other facility off....
> >
>
> You would THINK...
>
> But, that's not always the case. A recent move-in in
> Richmond, VA from a station in the middle of nowhere was off
> the air for almost two years until it signed on in
> September.
>
> It just depends on many factors...
>
> Cheers,
>
> Radio-X
I guess if you have no debt-service, it doesn't matter....
> turn
> > the other facility off....
> >
>
> You would THINK...
>
> But, that's not always the case. A recent move-in in
> Richmond, VA from a station in the middle of nowhere was off
> the air for almost two years until it signed on in
> September.
>
> It just depends on many factors...
>
> Cheers,
>
> Radio-X
I guess if you have no debt-service, it doesn't matter....
> > > They have been off the air for about a week now.
> > > Neil
>> > Is the long awaited move into the Savannah market
> underway?
> >
> > G
> >
>
> One would have thought they would just flip one on and turn
> the other facility off....
Can't do that. The AM has to be ON and operating before the FM can be turned off.
Powell
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> > > Neil
>> > Is the long awaited move into the Savannah market
> underway?
> >
> > G
> >
>
> One would have thought they would just flip one on and turn
> the other facility off....
Can't do that. The AM has to be ON and operating before the FM can be turned off.
Powell
<P ID="signature">______________
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> > > > They have been off the air for about a week now.
>
> > > > Neil
>
> >> > Is the long awaited move into the Savannah market
> > underway?
> > >
> > > G
> > >
> >
> > One would have thought they would just flip one on and
> turn
> > the other facility off....
>
>
> Can't do that. The AM has to be ON and operating before the
> FM can be turned off.
>
>
> Powell
Was talking about the new FM facilities coming online once they could turn the old one off. Given the long period of time it took to get the AM up and running, they could have had the new Savanahh facilities built and ready to go.
Powell, why did they do the move-in to Savannah rather than Columbia? The spacing study showed that they could have done it. Now the Barnwell back-fill is site-restricted.
>
> > > > Neil
>
> >> > Is the long awaited move into the Savannah market
> > underway?
> > >
> > > G
> > >
> >
> > One would have thought they would just flip one on and
> turn
> > the other facility off....
>
>
> Can't do that. The AM has to be ON and operating before the
> FM can be turned off.
>
>
> Powell
Was talking about the new FM facilities coming online once they could turn the old one off. Given the long period of time it took to get the AM up and running, they could have had the new Savanahh facilities built and ready to go.
Powell, why did they do the move-in to Savannah rather than Columbia? The spacing study showed that they could have done it. Now the Barnwell back-fill is site-restricted.
> Was talking about the new FM facilities coming online once
> they could turn the old one off. Given the long period of
> time it took to get the AM up and running, they could have
> had the new Savanahh facilities built and ready to go.
OK
> Powell, why did they do the move-in to Savannah rather than
> Columbia? The spacing study showed that they could have done
> it. Now the Barnwell back-fill is site-restricted.
Because the owner is from that area ?
Powell
<P ID="signature">______________
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> they could turn the old one off. Given the long period of
> time it took to get the AM up and running, they could have
> had the new Savanahh facilities built and ready to go.
OK
> Powell, why did they do the move-in to Savannah rather than
> Columbia? The spacing study showed that they could have done
> it. Now the Barnwell back-fill is site-restricted.
Because the owner is from that area ?
Powell
<P ID="signature">______________
NNNN</P>
> > Was talking about the new FM facilities coming online once
>
> > they could turn the old one off. Given the long period of
> > time it took to get the AM up and running, they could have
>
> > had the new Savanahh facilities built and ready to go.
>
> OK
>
>
> > Powell, why did they do the move-in to Savannah rather
> than
> > Columbia? The spacing study showed that they could have
> done
> > it. Now the Barnwell back-fill is site-restricted.
>
> Because the owner is from that area ?
I guess that is as good a reason as any. The stick value would have been higher as a Columbia station, rather than Savannah.
Who is Bullie Broadcasting?
>
> > they could turn the old one off. Given the long period of
> > time it took to get the AM up and running, they could have
>
> > had the new Savanahh facilities built and ready to go.
>
> OK
>
>
> > Powell, why did they do the move-in to Savannah rather
> than
> > Columbia? The spacing study showed that they could have
> done
> > it. Now the Barnwell back-fill is site-restricted.
>
> Because the owner is from that area ?
I guess that is as good a reason as any. The stick value would have been higher as a Columbia station, rather than Savannah.
Who is Bullie Broadcasting?
J
JustinTurner
Guest
Can someone tell me what exactly is going on with the station. Are the call-letters changing? Where's the new tower going to be? What's the frequency going to be? What about the format?
Thanks
Justin Turner
Thanks
Justin Turner
> Who is Bullie Broadcasting?
>
It's the company that WOAH (formerly WKIG-FM) of Glennville/Hinesville, Ga., and I think at least one other station in southeast Georgia. I'm not too sure, though.
>
It's the company that WOAH (formerly WKIG-FM) of Glennville/Hinesville, Ga., and I think at least one other station in southeast Georgia. I'm not too sure, though.
> > Who is Bullie Broadcasting?
> >
>
> It's the company that owns WOAH (formerly WKIG-FM) of
> Glennville/Hinesville, Ga., and I think at least one other
> station in southeast Georgia. I'm not too sure, though.
>
> >
>
> It's the company that owns WOAH (formerly WKIG-FM) of
> Glennville/Hinesville, Ga., and I think at least one other
> station in southeast Georgia. I'm not too sure, though.
>
B
Braswell
Guest
WBAW, one more time
Bullie Broadcasting of Hinesville (former owners of Hinesville's 104.7) have had a CP to change frequency to 99.3, upgrade to a class C-1, and change COL to Pembroke, Georgia, for several years.
They've been forced to wait on the move, until such time as another local service was established at Barnwell. When the original application was filed, it was claimed that Barnwell would continue to be served by WBAW-AM (740/1kw-D). Problem was, the AM had been sold to Clear Channel, for the sole purpose of taking it silent, in order to improve their 730-AM at Charleston.
Although the AM was long silent when Bullie filed their petition for rulemaking, it was still licensed. By the time the FCC got around to making a decision on Bullie's petition (and several counter-proposals), the license for the AM had been surrendered and cancelled.
Initially, the Commission granted Bullie's petition. A request for reconsideration was filed by one of the other petitioners, pointing out that the AM was long gone. The Commission still granted Bullie's request and subsequently granted a CP. The CP was stayed until such time as another local service was established at Barnwell.
Bullie had originally attempted to do this with what's called a "backfill" allocation. In this case, the backfill proposal was a 25kw FM on 99.1...the identical facility that was/is WBAW, but from a different tower/transmitter location. You see, this is where the FCC rules are screwy, and can be abused, because you cannot use logic and common sense.
This gets complicated, but basically, Bullie was getting a free pass to put a 100kw FM into Savannah through the back door. The regs were bent and stretched to the point of being ridiculous, because the 99.1 C-3 could still exist at Barnwell, but that existing station was used to leap-frog into a much bigger COL, with no competing applications allowed. You don't have to be a genius to figure that all this was done...in fact, the only reason Bullie bought WBAW-FM in the first place...to upgrade, move and quickly turn it over for a sizeable profit.
The 99.1/C-3 will likely return to Barnwell, although as a non-commercial allocation.
At this point, it appears that the move is finally going to happen, as a deal has been struck with the owner of WDOG/Allendale, to move his AM to Barnwell, which will allow the FM to hit the trail to Savannah. Look for TAMA to be the buyer, which will combine the "new" Pembroke station with WMZD/Rincon, and WSSJ-WSGA/Hinesville. I don't know what the selling price is, but the profit won't be nearly as much as it was thought to be.
According to my rough calculations/guesstimations, TAMA will have close to 15 million bucks (or more) invested into an already over-radioed Savannah. Two of these four stations will be start-ups, with the fourth (WSGA) having no saleable signal in Savannah. It'll be interesting to see how it goes.
I gotta write that book. <P ID="signature">______________
Jay Braswell - Moderator
Atlanta/North Florida/South Carolina/Georgia Boards</P>
Bullie Broadcasting of Hinesville (former owners of Hinesville's 104.7) have had a CP to change frequency to 99.3, upgrade to a class C-1, and change COL to Pembroke, Georgia, for several years.
They've been forced to wait on the move, until such time as another local service was established at Barnwell. When the original application was filed, it was claimed that Barnwell would continue to be served by WBAW-AM (740/1kw-D). Problem was, the AM had been sold to Clear Channel, for the sole purpose of taking it silent, in order to improve their 730-AM at Charleston.
Although the AM was long silent when Bullie filed their petition for rulemaking, it was still licensed. By the time the FCC got around to making a decision on Bullie's petition (and several counter-proposals), the license for the AM had been surrendered and cancelled.
Initially, the Commission granted Bullie's petition. A request for reconsideration was filed by one of the other petitioners, pointing out that the AM was long gone. The Commission still granted Bullie's request and subsequently granted a CP. The CP was stayed until such time as another local service was established at Barnwell.
Bullie had originally attempted to do this with what's called a "backfill" allocation. In this case, the backfill proposal was a 25kw FM on 99.1...the identical facility that was/is WBAW, but from a different tower/transmitter location. You see, this is where the FCC rules are screwy, and can be abused, because you cannot use logic and common sense.
This gets complicated, but basically, Bullie was getting a free pass to put a 100kw FM into Savannah through the back door. The regs were bent and stretched to the point of being ridiculous, because the 99.1 C-3 could still exist at Barnwell, but that existing station was used to leap-frog into a much bigger COL, with no competing applications allowed. You don't have to be a genius to figure that all this was done...in fact, the only reason Bullie bought WBAW-FM in the first place...to upgrade, move and quickly turn it over for a sizeable profit.
The 99.1/C-3 will likely return to Barnwell, although as a non-commercial allocation.
At this point, it appears that the move is finally going to happen, as a deal has been struck with the owner of WDOG/Allendale, to move his AM to Barnwell, which will allow the FM to hit the trail to Savannah. Look for TAMA to be the buyer, which will combine the "new" Pembroke station with WMZD/Rincon, and WSSJ-WSGA/Hinesville. I don't know what the selling price is, but the profit won't be nearly as much as it was thought to be.
According to my rough calculations/guesstimations, TAMA will have close to 15 million bucks (or more) invested into an already over-radioed Savannah. Two of these four stations will be start-ups, with the fourth (WSGA) having no saleable signal in Savannah. It'll be interesting to see how it goes.
I gotta write that book. <P ID="signature">______________
Jay Braswell - Moderator
Atlanta/North Florida/South Carolina/Georgia Boards</P>
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