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Are you sure? That actually sounds like the board when Fleming's parents ran it. Posts were constantly censored and redlined by the anonymous "Managing Board Editor", and most users got warned or banned, myself included. I abandoned my old username and left for many years after that. But I remember using and enjoying the site in its earliest days, when Lance was originally running it, and I don't remember any such conflicts.
No complaints from me here. The layout of the board is very easy to navigate. I always start with the new posts and have for quite a long time because it's easy to see all of the active conversations that way. Granted I've been out of full-time radio since 1997 and part-time radio for about 10 years, it's still nice to log in and read the latest news and conversations. Keep up the great work!
Can I raise a practical question at this point? Are we gonna do "Stonehenge" tomorrow?
IIRC, the Managing Board Editor was Diane Flemming, whom I called Mommy Dearest. I had my battles with her, including several warnings concerning things she didn't agree with, but I was never banned. Her famous response to me (several times) was "You aren't in any trouble, but..." Since I had no respect for her whatsoever, I didn't care. She didn't pay my salary, nor did I pay hers. But we're still here, and she's not. I wish no ill on her, but I'm glad she's long outta here.
But after 27 years on this board and its predecessor in Phoenix, the current leadership is doing just fine as far as I'm concerned. They're doing a great job preserving Frank's legacy while making it even better. Keep it up, guys!
Lance & David:
In reflection over my "contributions" yesterday? I was wrong. Life has been hard lately (wife with cancer stage IV) and I find myself venting by lashing out at unimportant things. But that's no excuse for my being a pompous ass.
In reflection over my "contributions" yesterday? I was wrong. Life has been hard lately (wife with cancer stage IV) and I find myself venting by lashing out at unimportant things. But that's no excuse for my being a pompous ass.
As a six month tenant here, I agree with all the changes so far, save for one. Overall, things are clearer and easier to read.
The exception is the soon to be elimination of In Memoriam. The thousands of posts indicate it's popularity, and fishing around on multiple boards for announcements of passings reduces the value to zero. A recent example: everyone remembers Elizabeth McCrae from General Hospital or Gomer Pyle; we are expected to try and pick up that announcement from an obscure North Carolina (where she lived), or something else equally as vague? Spreading death announcements thinly all over RD is not practical.
Please reconsider.
The exception is the soon to be elimination of In Memoriam. The thousands of posts indicate it's popularity, and fishing around on multiple boards for announcements of passings reduces the value to zero. A recent example: everyone remembers Elizabeth McCrae from General Hospital or Gomer Pyle; we are expected to try and pick up that announcement from an obscure North Carolina (where she lived), or something else equally as vague? Spreading death announcements thinly all over RD is not practical.
Please reconsider.
I agree that a radio/TV personalities (especially that were still or recently active) who pass should be "news" for the region they were working in, such as Jack Stahl in Cincinnati whose passing we learned about yesterday. I don't know if this board needs to be a catch-all for all entertainment-related obits.
Just because a singer was played on the radio, or an actor appeared on television, or an athlete's team had its games carried on both doesn't make them radio/TV personalities. While I occasionally comment on such obits, I realize that posting them on RD probably irritates the professionals, all of whom can read and hear about the deaths of such non-media people elsewhere. And when the actors are obscure (like the Gomer Pyle actress ... Really, gr8? EVERYONE remembers her?), their presence just clutters the forum for just about everyone. Let the RD obits be strictly about people who were in radio and television professionally.
Again, the eventual goal is that posts can have multiple "tags," if you will, that users can follow. So an obituary for Andy Griffith could show up for you whether it's "North Carolina," "Mount Airy" or "celebrity deaths" that's the actual tag you're following.
For what it's worth, my recollection was that in the Frank era, "please keep this obituary on my local board instead of moving it to the national obituary board" was one of the most frequent unheeded user requests, so there's clearly a constituency here that wanted it that way - and Lance, David and I agree with you!
For what it's worth, my recollection was that in the Frank era, "please keep this obituary on my local board instead of moving it to the national obituary board" was one of the most frequent unheeded user requests, so there's clearly a constituency here that wanted it that way - and Lance, David and I agree with you!
Not sure how the tags will work until we actually see them but if I can make an observation in the meantime...
The main problem I see with eliminating the In Memoriam board is that the stated goal is to grow engagement. Well, some of the most active topics currently on the first page of In Memoriam, besides Frank Berry of course, are Toby Keith, Eric Carmen, O.J. Simpson and Friends star Mathew Perry, all of which were of high interest not just on this site but also on radio where they were trending morning show topics. Are there local boards here that would accommodate celebrities and music icons like that, or is the plan to eliminate obit threads for non-radio deaths because there's no place for them, even though they currently get high engagement?
If I may make a suggestion -- again not knowing how the tags will play into it -- maybe keep the In Memoriam board alive, at least temporarily, but limit the posts there to a subject line with a link to the full thread on the respective local board if applicable. Or vice versa -- give the obit announcement a spot on the relevant local board (if applicable) with a link to the full thread In Memoriam so people can continue to browse all the deaths in one place if that's their interest.
Again, it's just a suggestion. I'm happy enough to go with the flow of whatever updates are made here. But I thought it was worth mentioning these points in case they hadn't been considered.
The main problem I see with eliminating the In Memoriam board is that the stated goal is to grow engagement. Well, some of the most active topics currently on the first page of In Memoriam, besides Frank Berry of course, are Toby Keith, Eric Carmen, O.J. Simpson and Friends star Mathew Perry, all of which were of high interest not just on this site but also on radio where they were trending morning show topics. Are there local boards here that would accommodate celebrities and music icons like that, or is the plan to eliminate obit threads for non-radio deaths because there's no place for them, even though they currently get high engagement?
If I may make a suggestion -- again not knowing how the tags will play into it -- maybe keep the In Memoriam board alive, at least temporarily, but limit the posts there to a subject line with a link to the full thread on the respective local board if applicable. Or vice versa -- give the obit announcement a spot on the relevant local board (if applicable) with a link to the full thread In Memoriam so people can continue to browse all the deaths in one place if that's their interest.
Again, it's just a suggestion. I'm happy enough to go with the flow of whatever updates are made here. But I thought it was worth mentioning these points in case they hadn't been considered.
We are fed up with stupid changes just of the sake of change, and, I guess, for egos to feel important. The entire WWW suffers from this. Those that are 'doers' have got to DO SOMETHING- let well enuf alone!
K.M. Richards
Program Director, The Eighties Channel™
Consider this as an alternative to your above insult to Lance, David and Scott:
More of us were "fed up" with boards existing that had zero traffic (or close to it) than you are with those boards being merged into something more relevant.
You (and a few other complainers) appear to fall into the proverbial definition of "change haters". I politely suggest that you try giving these improvements a chance for a while before deciding that something has to be 100% "your" way to be valid.
Keep in mind that we're not especially interested in "engagement" on its own as a metric.
Our goal, to the extent we're all in any kind of full agreement, is to make RD a venue for engagement that's specific to broadcasting.
Celebrity deaths like Perry or Keith may bring in traffic, but there are a million places people can go to talk about those topics, and they're not really broadcasting-specific topics beyond "well, they played Toby's songs on the radio" or "Friends was on TV."
We're happy with a smaller amount of traffic that's more focused on the specific topics of broadcasting. And to whatever extent advertiser support becomes a part of the future of this site, it's my sense, at least, that we're more likely to get it from broadcasting-specific advertisers wanting to reach that focused audience than we would from Google ads (or worse) chasing larger but less specific volumes of clicks.
Does that clarify anything?
Sure, and fair enough. I appreciate the explanation and the reasoning.
We're certainly very interested in feedback, because we know not everything we do will be perfect and of course (as this thread demonstrates) there's no pleasing everyone all the team.
But the lens of "how can we curate interesting, unique conversations about broadcasting topics" is a good way to look at everything we're trying to do, I hope.
I hope you can do something to stop the overkill of Temu ads. Thanks.
You can avoid that entire issue by simply clicking on "New Posts". That's the only way I ever use this site unless I have to go over something from the past.
Yes, I get it ... but I think that there should be a place for them, given the connection. Why not move it to the "off the air" section?
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