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What I don't get...

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Seven_Costanza

... given that poker is arguably the biggest pop culture phenomenon in recent memory (and by extension Las Vegas) why hasn't radio been able to capitalize? Television sure has.

I'm thinking of a true "Rat-pack" type standards thing. St. Louis' RED was about as close as we ever came.

And don't give me the "demo speech". If high-schoolers are willing to pick up something as old-school, gramma's wood-paneled rec-room, as poker, I think we should be able to go all the way and sell them the music as well...
 
my only thought is that....

There are a select few who would love an all polka station in any market too...there just aren't enough of them to make it work.

Same for standards...you could covert some...but will it ever be enough to compete? make money?

It would have to be done in a VERY big market (to reach enough potential) and on a full market signal.

Not a lot of major market full signals are willing to try something different!

I haven't listened to Red...but any format done well has a chance

look at Mojo...still does well in ratings on Jammin Oldies
 
> ... given that poker is arguably the biggest pop culture
> phenomenon in recent memory (and by extension Las Vegas) why
> hasn't radio been able to capitalize?

Because a big part of watching poker on TV (as sitting around a poker table with your buds) is WATCHING the bluffing and B.S.ing going on. The ability to see the player's eyes is fascinating.

(that would be my best guess, anyway)

There are some Pro sports than lend themselves much more to TV than radio- hockey, basketball among them. Baseball on the radio used to be priceless- our Ernie Harwell, guys like Jack Buck, Vin Sculley could all perfectly paint the picture that brought the charm and magic of baseball through the speakers (and, to me, football less so).
 
> I haven't listened to Red...but any format done well has a
> chance

Red is history anyway. It was sold and changed format almost immediately.<P ID="signature">______________


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Opinion

If there's a market where a certain company feels that the red format helps the overall bottom line, by reducing the chance of competing with themselves...why not do it?
(refering, respectfully, to places where a certain company owns a good 60 percent of the market.)<P ID="signature">______________
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Nitpick alert

> > > I haven't listened to Red...but any format done well has
> a
> >
> > > chance
> >
> > Red is history anyway. It was sold and changed format
> > almost immediately.
> >
> That is not 100% accurate
>
> http://www.red1041.com/
>
> just like WJMK chicago...they are streaming...unlike WJMK
> chicago they play Red on http://www.971talk.com/ on the
> weekends.

Given that my statement was that the station was sold and changed formats, you are nitpicking, and using the wrong perspective to do so.

An Internet stream is not the same as an on-the-air signal when determining viability. The format did not reap benefits on 104.1 St. Louis and has been taken off the air.

Since this is not the Internet radio board, my comment about the format being "dead" is accurate. This board is about broadcast programming.

Unless, of course, you can find a broadcast signal that is running "Red".<P ID="signature">______________


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> That is not 100% accurate
>
> http://www.red1041.com/
>
> just like WJMK chicago...they are streaming...

This seems an odd move to me. I'd guess that the vast majority of what few listeners Red had were over 60...hardly prime demographic for streamed audio. I can't somehow picture my parents listening to a webcast.
 
Re: Nitpick alert

> Unless, of course, you can find a broadcast signal that is
> running "Red".
>
www.foxy885.com <P ID="signature">______________
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Re: Nitpick alert

> > Unless, of course, you can find a broadcast signal that is
>
> > running "Red".
> >
> www.foxy885.com

I meant in the U.S., and the exact "Red" format, but that was a nice try.<P ID="signature">______________


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Re: Nitpick alert

> > > Unless, of course, you can find a broadcast signal that
> is
> >
> > > running "Red".
> > >
> > www.foxy885.com
>
> I meant in the U.S., and the exact "Red" format, but that
> was a nice try.
>
Thanks.
By the way, the Surfer network now has the red forma....wait...it now says "temporarrily unavailable" along with a good 28 other selections
there...I guess the fees for the privillage of a station streaming through Surfer network are too high?

www.surfernetwork.com/<P ID="signature">______________
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