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What is good country music?

PTBoardOp94 said:
Having said this, I know people who listen to country "because it is the closest thing to what Rock was when I was a kid."
Not for me. When I was a kid country was actually country, or at least pop-sounding, but not really rock.
 
I think you have the statement backwards.

Today's country is more like yesterday's rock than today's rock (i.e. New Rock and Alternative Rock)
 
PTBoardOp94 said:
I think you have the statement backwards.

Today's country is more like yesterday's rock than today's rock (i.e. New Rock and Alternative Rock)
Well, the country I like doesn't sound like rock.

Yesterday, for example, I heard George Jones do a drinking song.
 
I heard one song I liked yesterday which was uptempo but not rock.

The lyrics had something to do with Papa quitting drinking and Mama changing her ways. Even though there was a DJ, he didn't say what it was, though he could have before the song.

This part is just general. A canned announcer doing station IDs said they don't make 'em like this anymore, but they don't have to because so many were made.
 
RFLA said:
On the "real" country music format.. The sound is subjective to the listener. Some can say some of the newer George Strait songs have a pop flavor to them whereas others will say stone cold country.
I do think some of his stuff is too pop. But most of it sounds good.
 
I'm not sure I've said it, but if the "real" country instruments sound like they were an afterthought, and they could be taken out easily enough, then the song sounds too pop. The banjo, fiddle and/or steel guitar have to sound so much a part of the song that they couldn't be taken out.
 
A lot of 'today's' country cannot be considered Country music. In an effort to attract a much younger audience, many so called 'country artists' are doing everything but country music. I first started playing and programming country music back in the early 1970's. At that time...and to this day, I believe that country music is a sound and not determined by the artist singing it. Again, many of today's country artists like Rascal Flatts are perceived to be a country group, but are not singing country. Others, at times, have fallen into that same class...Faith Hill, Martina McBride, Tim McGraw, Kenny Chesney, etc. It has become more difficult, when searching the dial, to determine if you're listening to a rock or country station.

In other words, just because a song is recorded by a country artist doesn't make it a country song. What makes a country song is that unique sound. There are non-country artists that have recorded country songs that are just as good and deserve to be heard. Ray Charles "Modern Sounds of Country and Western Music" is one of the great albums with his "I Can't Stop Loving You" a certified classic.

So, country music is in the ear of the beholder and there are, fortunately, terrestrial stations and Internet stations that provide the country listener with 'their' form of country music.
 
radioman1380 said:
In other words, just because a song is recorded by a country artist doesn't make it a country song. What makes a country song is that unique sound. There are non-country artists that have recorded country songs that are just as good and deserve to be heard. Ray Charles "Modern Sounds of Country and Western Music" is one of the great albums with his "I Can't Stop Loving You" a certified classic.

While I agree that "I Can't Stop Loving You" is indeed a classic, I wouldn't call it country. Yeah, it's kind of a cryin' in yer beer song, but I'd call it more of a pop/AC song.

While I personally like the more rock-influenced country, I can see how some others might not. I've heard country stations presenting Lynyrd Skynyrd in concert...why they're considered "country" is beyond me.
 
Oldbones said:
While I agree that "I Can't Stop Loving You" is indeed a classic, I wouldn't call it country. Yeah, it's kind of a cryin' in yer beer song, but I'd call it more of a pop/AC song.
I agree. I like it. The radio stations I listen to play songs like that. And I have a country legends station if I go north a few miles in the car. They were standards but they still have a lot of these songs in their playlist.

A standards station where I live is doing commercials for a George Jones concert and the songs played on that commercial are so good.
 
I agree w/ SMASHEDCD. One Good country hour 1/2 or so:

Behind Closed Doors - Charlie Rich
Theme from "Dukes of Hazzard" - Waylon Jennings
What are We Doin' in Love - Kenny Rogers & Dottie West
Love's Been a little Bit Hard On Me - Juice Newton
Feels So Right - Alabama
No Gettin' Over me - Ronnie milsap
Right Time of the Night - Jennifer Warnes
Lookin' For Love - Johnny Lee
Phantom 309 - Johnny Cash
Shadows in the Moonlight - Anne Murray
any Bob Wills
Big Bad John - Jimmy Dean
Chug - a Lug - Roger Miller
Thank God I'm a Country Boy - John Denver
Suspicions - Eddie Rabbit
It's Only Make Believe - Conway Twitty
Uneasy Rider - Charlie Daniels
Break it to Me Gently - Brenda lee
(but then again I'm a Top 40 nut)
 
I taped the Grammys and finally got around to watching the show. Carrie Underwood's first performance was great. The musicians were a big part of that, of course.

Now Rascal Flatts ... ::) Of course, those songs weren't country to begin with. "Desperado" was on some tribute album.

I do like The Eagles' "Seven Bridges Road".
 
Carrie Underwood's first performance was great. The musicians were a big part of that, of course.


carrie underwood is bubblegum pop music. not country. rascal flatts is just pop.
 
smashedcd said:
Carrie Underwood's first performance was great. The musicians were a big part of that, of course.


carrie underwood is bubblegum pop music. not country. rascal flatts is just pop.
No, I'm referring to a performance on The Grammys. It was a Bob Wills song, "New San Antonio Rose". And the musicians were doing true western swing. Carrie sounded as country as it ws possible for her to sound.
 
vchimpanzee said:
smashedcd said:
Carrie Underwood's first performance was great. The musicians were a big part of that, of course.


carrie underwood is bubblegum pop music. not country. rascal flatts is just pop.
No, I'm referring to a performance on The Grammys. It was a Bob Wills song, "New San Antonio Rose". And the musicians were doing true western swing. Carrie sounded as country as it ws possible for her to sound.


woops..didnt know that. they usually avoid real country music on tv.
 
smashedcd said:
Carrie Underwood's first performance was great. The musicians were a big part of that, of course.


carrie underwood is bubblegum pop music. not country. rascal flatts is just pop.

Sorry, wrong answer... Maybe you should check out the results of the CRS38 Media survey of over 22,000 country listeners...

http://www.edisonresearch.com/home/archives/2007/03/edison_media_re_5.php
http://www.edisonresearch.com/CRS_38_Edison_Media_Research_Presentation.pdf

Carrie Underwood was the highest scoring female artist, and Rascal Flatts was the highest scoring group...
As for the bimbo chicks... well, they came in dead last by a very wide margin!

And by the way, Carrie and Rascal Flatts were THE HIGHLIGHT of the Grammy show... they should have been allowed to sing their own Country songs... even Don Henley said they should have been allowed to do their songs, so he decided not to show up in protest!
 
vchimpanzee said:
smashedcd said:
carrie underwood is bubblegum pop music. not country. rascal flatts is just pop.
Actually, this part is correct.

I certainly wouldn't believe anything that someone that has to hide behind a smashedcd or chimp id would have to say...

The survey speaks for 22,000 people... you can't argue with it... accept it and move forward.
 
john77 said:
vchimpanzee said:
smashedcd said:
carrie underwood is bubblegum pop music. not country. rascal flatts is just pop.
Actually, this part is correct.

I certainly wouldn't believe anything that someone that has to hide behind a smashedcd or chimp id would have to say...

The survey speaks for 22,000 people... you can't argue with it... accept it and move forward.


fyi my smashedcd id is from the rock band smashed gladys. the album social intersourse. i was listning to it in 1999 when i came up with my internet wide user name. hince smashed gladys cd. shortened to smashedcd.
 
john77 said:
smashedcd said:
Carrie Underwood's first performance was great. The musicians were a big part of that, of course.


carrie underwood is bubblegum pop music. not country. rascal flatts is just pop.

Sorry, wrong answer... Maybe you should check out the results of the CRS38 Media survey of over 22,000 country listeners...

http://www.edisonresearch.com/home/archives/2007/03/edison_media_re_5.php
http://www.edisonresearch.com/CRS_38_Edison_Media_Research_Presentation.pdf

Carrie Underwood was the highest scoring female artist, and Rascal Flatts was the highest scoring group...
As for the bimbo chicks... well, they came in dead last by a very wide margin!

And by the way, Carrie and Rascal Flatts were THE HIGHLIGHT of the Grammy show... they should have been allowed to sing their own Country songs... even Don Henley said they should have been allowed to do their songs, so he decided not to show up in protest!


Apparently it was aimed at about new artists.. I wonder what kind of reaction we could get with some of the older artists as I find some country stations starting to play more gold (or at least in my area) from the early to mid 1980s (the beginning of the young country movement and where both classic and new listeners tend to agree sometimes on IMO)

RFLA
 
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