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What is the deal with dance music?
- Thread starter SCRHack
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> Ok I see Whale's post down there asking for dance music. I
> see the same posts all the time on the Philly board... c'mon
> is this really a profitable format? Is this really something
> a market "needs". I don't see the appeal in it at all.
>
I think dance music could have survived and remained mainstream if it didn't loose it's ties with urban music, there was a time when I used to play a good mix of both, now I wouldn't touch it (though I have tried now and then, it just is a totally different sound now).
I partially blame Hot-97 for this, when they went all hip-hop, the music lost it's street roots and was detached from it's NYC base. KTU does little to restore this.
> see the same posts all the time on the Philly board... c'mon
> is this really a profitable format? Is this really something
> a market "needs". I don't see the appeal in it at all.
>
I think dance music could have survived and remained mainstream if it didn't loose it's ties with urban music, there was a time when I used to play a good mix of both, now I wouldn't touch it (though I have tried now and then, it just is a totally different sound now).
I partially blame Hot-97 for this, when they went all hip-hop, the music lost it's street roots and was detached from it's NYC base. KTU does little to restore this.
C
ciao99
Guest
More like what's the deal with CHR-Rhythmic formats?
> > Ok I see Whale's post down there asking for dance music. I
>
> > see the same posts all the time on the Philly board...
> c'mon
> > is this really a profitable format? Is this really
> something
> > a market "needs". I don't see the appeal in it at all.
> >
>
>
> I think dance music could have survived and remained
> mainstream if it didn't loose it's ties with urban music,
> there was a time when I used to play a good mix of both, now
> I wouldn't touch it (though I have tried now and then, it
> just is a totally different sound now).
>
> I partially blame Hot-97 for this, when they went all
> hip-hop, the music lost it's street roots and was detached
> from it's NYC base. KTU does little to restore this.
>
Rhythmic is a misnomer.
WKTU and Hot 97 are both listed as Rhythmic, but play totally different music and cater to different audiences. Seems like most Hip Hop stations like the 'CHR-Rhythmic' label rather than calling themselves what they really are: hip hop! Perhaps that is not to scare off advertizers. but the music is just ghetto chatter , not necessarily rhythmic.
> > Ok I see Whale's post down there asking for dance music. I
>
> > see the same posts all the time on the Philly board...
> c'mon
> > is this really a profitable format? Is this really
> something
> > a market "needs". I don't see the appeal in it at all.
> >
>
>
> I think dance music could have survived and remained
> mainstream if it didn't loose it's ties with urban music,
> there was a time when I used to play a good mix of both, now
> I wouldn't touch it (though I have tried now and then, it
> just is a totally different sound now).
>
> I partially blame Hot-97 for this, when they went all
> hip-hop, the music lost it's street roots and was detached
> from it's NYC base. KTU does little to restore this.
>
Rhythmic is a misnomer.
WKTU and Hot 97 are both listed as Rhythmic, but play totally different music and cater to different audiences. Seems like most Hip Hop stations like the 'CHR-Rhythmic' label rather than calling themselves what they really are: hip hop! Perhaps that is not to scare off advertizers. but the music is just ghetto chatter , not necessarily rhythmic.
Re: More like what's the deal with CHR-Rhythmic formats?
> Nah my question was more like why does every board I go to
> have a bunch of people chatterin for a dance station. I
> never considered it that big of a draw.
>
Have you been to Europe then? Maybe you'd discover the draw if you went to a continent where nearly all the big cities have at least one dance station.
In Italy, other GUYS were excitedly telling me about these famous NYC DJs that I'd never heard of. It's just something you don't get here. Once I started downloading the music, I was hooked. I suppose that would happen to many others, if they had the access to the music.
> Nah my question was more like why does every board I go to
> have a bunch of people chatterin for a dance station. I
> never considered it that big of a draw.
>
Have you been to Europe then? Maybe you'd discover the draw if you went to a continent where nearly all the big cities have at least one dance station.
In Italy, other GUYS were excitedly telling me about these famous NYC DJs that I'd never heard of. It's just something you don't get here. Once I started downloading the music, I was hooked. I suppose that would happen to many others, if they had the access to the music.
C
ciao99
Guest
Re: More like what's the deal with CHR-Rhythmic formats?
> > Nah my question was more like why does every board I go to
>
> > have a bunch of people chatterin for a dance station. I
> > never considered it that big of a draw.
> >
>
> Have you been to Europe then? Maybe you'd discover the draw
> if you went to a continent where nearly all the big cities
> have at least one dance station.
>
> In Italy, other GUYS were excitedly telling me about these
> famous NYC DJs that I'd never heard of. It's just something
> you don't get here. Once I started downloading the music, I
> was hooked. I suppose that would happen to many others, if
> they had the access to the music.
>
Dance music is popular in Latin America too. Asia as well. Thing is here the Caucasian American male considers dancing a threat to his masculinity.
> > Nah my question was more like why does every board I go to
>
> > have a bunch of people chatterin for a dance station. I
> > never considered it that big of a draw.
> >
>
> Have you been to Europe then? Maybe you'd discover the draw
> if you went to a continent where nearly all the big cities
> have at least one dance station.
>
> In Italy, other GUYS were excitedly telling me about these
> famous NYC DJs that I'd never heard of. It's just something
> you don't get here. Once I started downloading the music, I
> was hooked. I suppose that would happen to many others, if
> they had the access to the music.
>
Dance music is popular in Latin America too. Asia as well. Thing is here the Caucasian American male considers dancing a threat to his masculinity.
C
ciao99
Guest
Re: More like what's the deal with CHR-Rhythmic formats?
> Yeah thats exactly it, or I just dont like the sound of a
> repeatitive beat with an old 80s love songs lyrics over it.
> One of the two.
>
Then you aren't familiar with dance music. What you are referring to is Top 40, Kiss 108 style pop. Of course no one likes that dribble.
Dance/ trance/ trip-hop is much more underground.
> Yeah thats exactly it, or I just dont like the sound of a
> repeatitive beat with an old 80s love songs lyrics over it.
> One of the two.
>
Then you aren't familiar with dance music. What you are referring to is Top 40, Kiss 108 style pop. Of course no one likes that dribble.
Dance/ trance/ trip-hop is much more underground.
A
antennafarm
Guest
Re: More like what's the deal with CHR-Rhythmic formats?
> > Nah my question was more like why does every board I go to
>
> > have a bunch of people chatterin for a dance station. I
> > never considered it that big of a draw.
> >
>
> Have you been to Europe then? Maybe you'd discover the draw
> if you went to a continent where nearly all the big cities
> have at least one dance station.
>
> In Italy, other GUYS were excitedly telling me about these
> famous NYC DJs that I'd never heard of. It's just something
> you don't get here. Once I started downloading the music, I
> was hooked. I suppose that would happen to many others, if
> they had the access to the music.
>
Dance and techno have been popular in Europe for years. On my last visit to Ireland and Germany, dance and techno was tops. Clubs don't play much rap. One jock at a club in Dublin told me "rap is boring crap" and people sit down or head to the restrooms when he puts one one. Look at the Venga Boys...very big in Europe. Their song "We like to Party" is the theme music for the Six Flags spots. I'd say dance has potential if programed carefully and keeping some of the good urban dance tracks included.
> > Nah my question was more like why does every board I go to
>
> > have a bunch of people chatterin for a dance station. I
> > never considered it that big of a draw.
> >
>
> Have you been to Europe then? Maybe you'd discover the draw
> if you went to a continent where nearly all the big cities
> have at least one dance station.
>
> In Italy, other GUYS were excitedly telling me about these
> famous NYC DJs that I'd never heard of. It's just something
> you don't get here. Once I started downloading the music, I
> was hooked. I suppose that would happen to many others, if
> they had the access to the music.
>
Dance and techno have been popular in Europe for years. On my last visit to Ireland and Germany, dance and techno was tops. Clubs don't play much rap. One jock at a club in Dublin told me "rap is boring crap" and people sit down or head to the restrooms when he puts one one. Look at the Venga Boys...very big in Europe. Their song "We like to Party" is the theme music for the Six Flags spots. I'd say dance has potential if programed carefully and keeping some of the good urban dance tracks included.
Re: More like what's the deal with CHR-Rhythmic formats?
Well - I dont mind admitting I'm in my mid-40s, and used to be a club DJ in England.
I would dearly love a 'dance' station. I mourn the loss of 93.7 in Hartford. When it went from Jammin 93.7 to its current format, (its been a few years, I'm surprised 93.7 isnt on a new new format just so they can keep their NEW 93.7 moniker!, it seems to change every three years!) they lost me as a listener.
Star 93.7 in Boston changing to Mike-FM was another disappointment. Star actually pulled me in from WBZ1030. Now I'm back on talk radio.
I truly believe, a well programmed dance station, brave enough to dig deeper and not rely on a handful of classics, and able to mix in the best dance from the current scene, could make an impact! There are plenty of excellent dances tunes which didnt reach the charts!
Jazzy
Well - I dont mind admitting I'm in my mid-40s, and used to be a club DJ in England.
I would dearly love a 'dance' station. I mourn the loss of 93.7 in Hartford. When it went from Jammin 93.7 to its current format, (its been a few years, I'm surprised 93.7 isnt on a new new format just so they can keep their NEW 93.7 moniker!, it seems to change every three years!) they lost me as a listener.
Star 93.7 in Boston changing to Mike-FM was another disappointment. Star actually pulled me in from WBZ1030. Now I'm back on talk radio.
I truly believe, a well programmed dance station, brave enough to dig deeper and not rely on a handful of classics, and able to mix in the best dance from the current scene, could make an impact! There are plenty of excellent dances tunes which didnt reach the charts!
Jazzy
Re: More like what's the deal with CHR-Rhythmic formats?
> Well - I dont mind admitting I'm in my mid-40s, and used to
> be a club DJ in England.
>
> I would dearly love a 'dance' station. I mourn the loss of
> 93.7 in Hartford. When it went from Jammin 93.7 to its
> current format, (its been a few years, I'm surprised 93.7
> isnt on a new new format just so they can keep their NEW
> 93.7 moniker!, it seems to change every three years!) they
> lost me as a listener.
>
> Star 93.7 in Boston changing to Mike-FM was another
> disappointment. Star actually pulled me in from WBZ1030. Now
> I'm back on talk radio.
>
> I truly believe, a well programmed dance station, brave
> enough to dig deeper and not rely on a handful of classics,
> and able to mix in the best dance from the current scene,
> could make an impact! There are plenty of excellent dances
> tunes which didnt reach the charts!
>
> Jazzy
>
93.7 never used "jammin" they were "Mix", "the 70's station" and "dancin oldies", you might be confusing them with someone else.
> Well - I dont mind admitting I'm in my mid-40s, and used to
> be a club DJ in England.
>
> I would dearly love a 'dance' station. I mourn the loss of
> 93.7 in Hartford. When it went from Jammin 93.7 to its
> current format, (its been a few years, I'm surprised 93.7
> isnt on a new new format just so they can keep their NEW
> 93.7 moniker!, it seems to change every three years!) they
> lost me as a listener.
>
> Star 93.7 in Boston changing to Mike-FM was another
> disappointment. Star actually pulled me in from WBZ1030. Now
> I'm back on talk radio.
>
> I truly believe, a well programmed dance station, brave
> enough to dig deeper and not rely on a handful of classics,
> and able to mix in the best dance from the current scene,
> could make an impact! There are plenty of excellent dances
> tunes which didnt reach the charts!
>
> Jazzy
>
93.7 never used "jammin" they were "Mix", "the 70's station" and "dancin oldies", you might be confusing them with someone else.
M
MattF
Guest
Sadly, the market isn't BIG enough for one (re: ratings)...even Star in Boston couldn't pull enough in to justify the costs, partly hence the MIKE switchover.
There is enough people who enjoy the stuff out there these days...don't think it isn't like 50 people. If you want a great example head to Room 960 in Hartford. But as aforementioned, even in a bigger city, the amount is just not enough.
That and I honestly don't believe any cuurent PD at any station truly would know how to efficiently program just that type of music w/o having to rely on any type of fallbacks or crossovers.
In the meantime, all one can rely on around here is the Internet and the occassional mixshow here and there...
> Ok I see Whale's post down there asking for dance music. I
> see the same posts all the time on the Philly board... c'mon
> is this really a profitable format? Is this really something
> a market "needs". I don't see the appeal in it at all.
>
There is enough people who enjoy the stuff out there these days...don't think it isn't like 50 people. If you want a great example head to Room 960 in Hartford. But as aforementioned, even in a bigger city, the amount is just not enough.
That and I honestly don't believe any cuurent PD at any station truly would know how to efficiently program just that type of music w/o having to rely on any type of fallbacks or crossovers.
In the meantime, all one can rely on around here is the Internet and the occassional mixshow here and there...
> Ok I see Whale's post down there asking for dance music. I
> see the same posts all the time on the Philly board... c'mon
> is this really a profitable format? Is this really something
> a market "needs". I don't see the appeal in it at all.
>
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