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What Makes Jack Stations Different From Mike?
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J
Joseph_Gallant
Guest
From what I have heard, "Jack" and "Mike" are different names for pretty much the same format.
Entercom probably couldn't get the rights to use the name "Jack", so they use "Mike" here in the Boston area.
Entercom probably couldn't get the rights to use the name "Jack", so they use "Mike" here in the Boston area.
F
fatbastard
Guest
> What does Jack play that is different from Mike-FM, or is it
> just that Mike is playing more seventies rock and disco
> instead?
>
Mike is crappy Top 40 adult contemp. hits from 70's,80's, 90's, 2000's.
Real Jacks are really all over the place.<P ID="signature">______________
"I am walkin' here!!!"
Yes, I am a radio sales weasel but there would
be no programming if it wasn't for loooong commercial breaks. Remmeber that!</P>
> just that Mike is playing more seventies rock and disco
> instead?
>
Mike is crappy Top 40 adult contemp. hits from 70's,80's, 90's, 2000's.
Real Jacks are really all over the place.<P ID="signature">______________
"I am walkin' here!!!"
Yes, I am a radio sales weasel but there would
be no programming if it wasn't for loooong commercial breaks. Remmeber that!</P>
F
fatbastard
Guest
> From what I have heard, "Jack" and "Mike" are different
> names for pretty much the same format.
>
You're clueless as always. No, they're completely
different formats.
> Entercom probably couldn't get the rights to use the name
> "Jack", so they use "Mike" here in the Boston area.
>
If you write a check, you can get rights to use any name you want.
Mike is not Jack or Jack-type.<P ID="signature">______________
"I am walkin' here!!!"
Yes, I am a radio sales weasel but there would
be no programming if it wasn't for loooong commercial breaks. Remmeber that!</P>
> names for pretty much the same format.
>
You're clueless as always. No, they're completely
different formats.
> Entercom probably couldn't get the rights to use the name
> "Jack", so they use "Mike" here in the Boston area.
>
If you write a check, you can get rights to use any name you want.
Mike is not Jack or Jack-type.<P ID="signature">______________
"I am walkin' here!!!"
Yes, I am a radio sales weasel but there would
be no programming if it wasn't for loooong commercial breaks. Remmeber that!</P>
> > From what I have heard, "Jack" and "Mike" are different
> > names for pretty much the same format.
> >
> You're clueless as always. No, they're completely
> different formats.
>
> > Entercom probably couldn't get the rights to use the name
> > "Jack", so they use "Mike" here in the Boston area.
> >
> If you write a check, you can get rights to use any name you
> want.
> Mike is not Jack or Jack-type.
I don't know about that. Are there any non-CBS/Infinity stations anywhere actually using the name "Jack"? I thought they had a copyright on it, and all other companies switching to a similar format had to use a different name.
> > names for pretty much the same format.
> >
> You're clueless as always. No, they're completely
> different formats.
>
> > Entercom probably couldn't get the rights to use the name
> > "Jack", so they use "Mike" here in the Boston area.
> >
> If you write a check, you can get rights to use any name you
> want.
> Mike is not Jack or Jack-type.
I don't know about that. Are there any non-CBS/Infinity stations anywhere actually using the name "Jack"? I thought they had a copyright on it, and all other companies switching to a similar format had to use a different name.
> > > From what I have heard, "Jack" and "Mike" are different
> > > names for pretty much the same format.
> > >
> > You're clueless as always. No, they're completely
> > different formats.
> >
> > > Entercom probably couldn't get the rights to use the
> name
> > > "Jack", so they use "Mike" here in the Boston area.
> > >
> > If you write a check, you can get rights to use any name
> you
> > want.
> > Mike is not Jack or Jack-type.
>
> I don't know about that. Are there any non-CBS/Infinity
> stations anywhere actually using the name "Jack"? I thought
> they had a copyright on it, and all other companies
> switching to a similar format had to use a different name.
>
Yes, 105.1 Kansas City, 104.5 Indy, 100.7 San Diego, 96.3 Nashville...
> > > names for pretty much the same format.
> > >
> > You're clueless as always. No, they're completely
> > different formats.
> >
> > > Entercom probably couldn't get the rights to use the
> name
> > > "Jack", so they use "Mike" here in the Boston area.
> > >
> > If you write a check, you can get rights to use any name
> you
> > want.
> > Mike is not Jack or Jack-type.
>
> I don't know about that. Are there any non-CBS/Infinity
> stations anywhere actually using the name "Jack"? I thought
> they had a copyright on it, and all other companies
> switching to a similar format had to use a different name.
>
Yes, 105.1 Kansas City, 104.5 Indy, 100.7 San Diego, 96.3 Nashville...
F
fatbastard
Guest
> > > From what I have heard, "Jack" and "Mike" are different
> > > names for pretty much the same format.
> > >
> > You're clueless as always. No, they're completely
> > different formats.
> >
> > > Entercom probably couldn't get the rights to use the
> name
> > > "Jack", so they use "Mike" here in the Boston area.
> > >
> > If you write a check, you can get rights to use any name
> you
> > want.
> > Mike is not Jack or Jack-type.
>
> I don't know about that. Are there any non-CBS/Infinity
> stations anywhere actually using the name "Jack"? I thought
> they had a copyright on it, and all other companies
> switching to a similar format had to use a different name.
>
Yes, Denver/Jack 105.5. Locally owned, too.
And tons of small markets have Jack on non-Infinity stations.
You only read about Jack in big markets becauses that's what
the trades focus on. Infinity has bought the license for most
of its major markets. They don't have to have a Jack
station on the air, but pay for the name to keep competition
from getting it. They already own rights to Jack in Boston,
that's why Entercom went with Mike.<P ID="signature">______________
"I am walkin' here!!!"
Yes, I am a radio sales weasel but there would
be no programming if it wasn't for loooong commercial breaks. Remmeber that!</P>
> > > names for pretty much the same format.
> > >
> > You're clueless as always. No, they're completely
> > different formats.
> >
> > > Entercom probably couldn't get the rights to use the
> name
> > > "Jack", so they use "Mike" here in the Boston area.
> > >
> > If you write a check, you can get rights to use any name
> you
> > want.
> > Mike is not Jack or Jack-type.
>
> I don't know about that. Are there any non-CBS/Infinity
> stations anywhere actually using the name "Jack"? I thought
> they had a copyright on it, and all other companies
> switching to a similar format had to use a different name.
>
Yes, Denver/Jack 105.5. Locally owned, too.
And tons of small markets have Jack on non-Infinity stations.
You only read about Jack in big markets becauses that's what
the trades focus on. Infinity has bought the license for most
of its major markets. They don't have to have a Jack
station on the air, but pay for the name to keep competition
from getting it. They already own rights to Jack in Boston,
that's why Entercom went with Mike.<P ID="signature">______________
"I am walkin' here!!!"
Yes, I am a radio sales weasel but there would
be no programming if it wasn't for loooong commercial breaks. Remmeber that!</P>
J
jdlistener
Guest
The "Mike" format has been nothing like I envisioned, and I suppose I envisioned what they advertised. They advertise that they play songs you'd download if you had the time, but - at least for me - I only download songs that I haven't heard in a while and that I'm not tired of because the song maybe never got a lot of radio play in the first place. I think that's generally true for most people as well from what little I've seen of it. I read a recent article that described an I-Pod night catching on at local clubs. People are allowed to play 3 songs from their I-Pod for the whole club to hear - for each person, it was a point of pride for the choices to be eclectic yet cool.
I thought if that format truly were tried it might be interesting, although I can’t imagine it would be popular - a bunch of songs that are underplayed and yet good music. There's nothing eclectic about the music played on Mike - almost every song is a song that was played to death in its own day and ever since.
> Mike is crappy Top 40 adult contemp. hits from 70's,80's,
> 90's, 2000's.
> Real Jacks are really all over the place.
>
I thought if that format truly were tried it might be interesting, although I can’t imagine it would be popular - a bunch of songs that are underplayed and yet good music. There's nothing eclectic about the music played on Mike - almost every song is a song that was played to death in its own day and ever since.
> Mike is crappy Top 40 adult contemp. hits from 70's,80's,
> 90's, 2000's.
> Real Jacks are really all over the place.
>
> > What does Jack play that is different from Mike-FM, or is
> it
> > just that Mike is playing more seventies rock and disco
> > instead?
> >
>
> Mike is crappy Top 40 adult contemp. hits from 70's,80's,
> 90's, 2000's.
> Real Jacks are really all over the place.
>
Ratso, I must disagree with your "no programming without looooong ad breaks".
Non-commercial radio is doing just fine these days. In fact some non-com
stations in major markets are getting quite good ratings, especially the
stations which are programming a mix of music other stations don't even
touch, and here I am referring to commercial stations.
It has been the commercial aspect of radio in this country that has kept
the quality of our broadcasting low. Look at the BBC in England. For years
it has been looked upon as THE standard of quality broadcasting and to
some extent still is. No commercials. Public funded. As it should have
been and maybe if we pray hard enough still might be in the USA.
No sir, commercials have not been the element to keep programming on our
radio stations....it has been greed and corporate profits that have kept
programming on and that programming has been of very low quality.
And your position as an ad exec is one gear in that machine. But, hey,
a guy has to make a living and I do not condemn you for that. Just keep
the correct perspective in all this, please.
> it
> > just that Mike is playing more seventies rock and disco
> > instead?
> >
>
> Mike is crappy Top 40 adult contemp. hits from 70's,80's,
> 90's, 2000's.
> Real Jacks are really all over the place.
>
Ratso, I must disagree with your "no programming without looooong ad breaks".
Non-commercial radio is doing just fine these days. In fact some non-com
stations in major markets are getting quite good ratings, especially the
stations which are programming a mix of music other stations don't even
touch, and here I am referring to commercial stations.
It has been the commercial aspect of radio in this country that has kept
the quality of our broadcasting low. Look at the BBC in England. For years
it has been looked upon as THE standard of quality broadcasting and to
some extent still is. No commercials. Public funded. As it should have
been and maybe if we pray hard enough still might be in the USA.
No sir, commercials have not been the element to keep programming on our
radio stations....it has been greed and corporate profits that have kept
programming on and that programming has been of very low quality.
And your position as an ad exec is one gear in that machine. But, hey,
a guy has to make a living and I do not condemn you for that. Just keep
the correct perspective in all this, please.
O
OldiesCat
Guest
Mike vs. Jack
No different than one Oldies station calling themselves KOOL 98 or OLDIES 101.
> > > From what I have heard, "Jack" and "Mike" are different
> > > names for pretty much the same format.
> > >
> > You're clueless as always. No, they're completely
> > different formats.
> >
>
>
> Please enlighten us to the differences between them. Not a
> dime's worth of difference to my ears.
>
No different than one Oldies station calling themselves KOOL 98 or OLDIES 101.
> > > From what I have heard, "Jack" and "Mike" are different
> > > names for pretty much the same format.
> > >
> > You're clueless as always. No, they're completely
> > different formats.
> >
>
>
> Please enlighten us to the differences between them. Not a
> dime's worth of difference to my ears.
>
> The "Mike" format has been nothing like I envisioned, and I
> suppose I envisioned what they advertised. They advertise
> that they play songs you'd download if you had the time, but
> - at least for me - I only download songs that I haven't
> heard in a while and that I'm not tired of because the song
> maybe never got a lot of radio play in the first place. I
> think that's generally true for most people as well from
> what little I've seen of it. I read a recent article that
> described an I-Pod night catching on at local clubs. People
> are allowed to play 3 songs from their I-Pod for the whole
> club to hear - for each person, it was a point of pride for
> the choices to be eclectic yet cool.
>
> I thought if that format truly were tried it might be
> interesting, although I can’t imagine it would be popular -
> a bunch of songs that are underplayed and yet good music.
> There's nothing eclectic about the music played on Mike -
> almost every song is a song that was played to death in its
> own day and ever since.
>
I couldn't agree with you more........not only is Mike playing music that was played to death in it's own day, Mike is playing the same songs to death now.....seems like every time I tune in, I'm hearing the same songs they played the last time I tuned in..........granted, there IS such a thing as being "too eclectic", but Mike has turned out to be a real disappointment in respect to the promotion that it would play "the songs you would download on your Ipod"......I haven't heard anything on Mike yet that I feel the need to download........heard it all before, and if I tune in tomorrow, I'll hear the same songs again........
> suppose I envisioned what they advertised. They advertise
> that they play songs you'd download if you had the time, but
> - at least for me - I only download songs that I haven't
> heard in a while and that I'm not tired of because the song
> maybe never got a lot of radio play in the first place. I
> think that's generally true for most people as well from
> what little I've seen of it. I read a recent article that
> described an I-Pod night catching on at local clubs. People
> are allowed to play 3 songs from their I-Pod for the whole
> club to hear - for each person, it was a point of pride for
> the choices to be eclectic yet cool.
>
> I thought if that format truly were tried it might be
> interesting, although I can’t imagine it would be popular -
> a bunch of songs that are underplayed and yet good music.
> There's nothing eclectic about the music played on Mike -
> almost every song is a song that was played to death in its
> own day and ever since.
>
I couldn't agree with you more........not only is Mike playing music that was played to death in it's own day, Mike is playing the same songs to death now.....seems like every time I tune in, I'm hearing the same songs they played the last time I tuned in..........granted, there IS such a thing as being "too eclectic", but Mike has turned out to be a real disappointment in respect to the promotion that it would play "the songs you would download on your Ipod"......I haven't heard anything on Mike yet that I feel the need to download........heard it all before, and if I tune in tomorrow, I'll hear the same songs again........
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