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What should I get? (Starting in voice overs)

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Kyle_Hojem

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Hello all:

I am thinking of getting into voice overs and I need some help with equipment.

Currently I have Cool Edit 2.0, a Behringer B-1 condenser microphone, and a small Behringer board as a Pre-amp.

I want to get some higher quality items, such as a better mic (maybe a SM-5 or SM-7B?), and solid pre-amp. A friend keeps telling me to get an M-Box 2 mini, but I've read that the pre-amps in that model are crummy.

I reciently opened up a Voice123.com profile (the free kind), but there is not much on it yet.

Do any of you have suggestions for any or all of the above? Any help is appreciated.

Thank you!
 
Let me get more specific:
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I am an internet radio broadcaster on Live365.com, and I have some equipment that I use for my stations.
I've been told throughout the years that I have a voice for radio. I am thinking of getting into voice overs and I need some help with equipment. I reciently opened up a Voice123.com profile (the free kind), but there is basically nothing on my profile.

Currently I have Cool Edit 2.0 , a Behringer B-1 condenser microphone, and a small Behringer board as a Pre-amp.

I want to get some higher quality items to improve both my station and also my chances in sounding more professional as a VO artist. I know I need a better mic for starters (such as a SM-5 or SM-7B?), and solid pre-amp. A friend keeps telling me to get an M-Box 2 mini, but I've read that the pre-amps in that model are crummy.

Since my computer is older, I may need a new sound card as well.

Compressors?

Do any of you have suggestions for any or all of the above? Any help is appreciated.

Thank you!
 
Kyle,
Before anything else, get some training. The web is full of folks who "have a voice for radio" and think they can be a voice actor just because of that. Besides, many of the agencies and production houses don't want radio voices. They want folks who can deliver the read.
 
Kyle,
If you've not done so, I suggest you go here,
http://www.voice-overs.com/forum/

there are a plethora of professionals there that can try and steer you in the right direction,not that this forum won't help you either, but the forum I suggested is strictly for voice-overs.

As a professional who's been doing this a loooooong time, voice123 is not your best bet, it won't generate leads for vo work for you without you compensating them (voice123) by being a "premium" member, don't get me wrong, people do get vo work from that company, but they've also been in this business a long time, have agents in several markets, relentlessly self market and are true voice over professionals who make their living in Voice Over. Marketing yourself through various other self marketing tools will be your best bet, it's all about WHO you know, What you know and how well you can deliver and or act the read the client wants.

Best of Luck
Scott
 
I would have to agree.....

Voices for radio are a penny a dozen now days.

Take the money you're thinking about investing in the new equipment and get some training whether true VO training or even acting classes. You'll need to learn how to take direction, pace yourself, present different emotions, and to develop your own style. You'll also need to learn the ins and outs of putting together a good demo. There is an art to it.

Personally for my production business I have found several good voices from Voice 123, but that's only because I knew exactly what I was looking for. Don't expect to get a flood of business from it, even if you pay premium prices.

The people who make good money (not even a living) off voice overs have had to work long and hard to do it.
But don't let myself and others discourage you if it's what you really want. If you're willing to put that level of effort into it, it can be rewarding. If you're just hoping to make some quick cash, you're going to be disappointed.

Good Luck.
 
Everyone here has great advice. The voice is just the icing on the cake. The style and delivery is what makes the sale. My voice sucks. There's nothing to it. There's absolutely nothing about my voice to make it sell. Clients hire me because of the way I present the script. I wasted the first few years of my life trying to sound like someone I'm not. Then I started noticing that the repeat clients always wanted the simplest reads. Now my read is very focused. I'm 26, and I'll do voice ages 18-30. I try to imagine who the audience is. Just as people dress differently and act differently if they're going to a posh nightclub, rather than a metal concert, I "dress" my delivery differently. But it's always me. It's just me with long hair, black fingernails and leather clothes with chains, or me cleanly shaven with khakis and a blue button-down shirt. Listen to some spots closely. There are MANY national ads that do not feature people with great voices...But they all have great reads. Even if their voice is very plain.

On the other hand, I know several people that have amazing voices and can't get work to save their lives. Their deliveries suck. They don't understand why a big, deep voice isn't enough.

If you have a great voice to accompany a great delivery, that's even better.

An acting class is a GREAT idea.

Emmett
 
I. agree. You really should invest in training. Read every book you can on the subject. Then startl looking at equipment.

Ebay is your friend if money is tight.

Here's what I have:
A Marshall MXL990 condenser mic
Behringer 1608 mixer
Symetrix 528e processor (mainly used to control noise)
Old copy of Sound fForge (I really need to update)

You can hear what I can do with this at my website:
www.jclvoices.com

Welcome to the community, enjoy your stay!

JCL
 
Hey Kyle, You've received some very good advice in this forum. I'm probably the last person to give advice. I worked with a few outstanding voice over guys, but never became a great voice over guy myself.

This being said, I can her a good voice guy/woman in the first five seconds of a demo, a commercial or industrial. In this capacity, my ears are better than my voice. There were a few years when I hired dozens of voice over people to do politicals, station imaging and presentations. Now, I'm back playing the hits and giving others the opportunity to play the role of "media maven" and "executive producer."

I like the advice about "be who you are." There's a lot to be said for that.

Make sure you have good diction and articulation. Learn how to breathe. Don't worry about being "Joey Ballsvoice" or "Ron Radio." Like the Wild West, where there was always a faster gun, there's always gonna be a guy who has a deeper voice. Besides, unless you're doing Hollywood trailers (there are about five guys who have that market locked), it's more important to be a "stylist." Like the man said, sometimes you're doing a commercial for the guy who wears khakis, sometimes it's for the guy buyin' his first Harley. That was a good analogy.

A good voice guy is a lot like being a good musician, you have to know and practice your scales. Breathing, diction, control and articulation are the scales of voice over people.

If you have good articulation, you can work in "voice actor mode" as much as "announcer mode." You can do "man on the street" in one spot and the "savings bank sell" in the next. If you don't have a sense of diction, pacing, breathing and articulation, you won't be able to do any of those roles well.

Listen to voice over men and women and study their traits. There are some very good local and regional VO men and women who may not be national, but they're damn good at their craft. It's like watching good actors work in the movies and on stage.

In radio and the voice over game, there are "novices," "journeymen/women," "craftsmen/women," and "master craftsmen/women."

Practice your skills. Read out loud. Go from being Robin Williams to Orson Welles. Do your vowel sounds, excersice your tongue and lips. Practice alliteration. Laugh. Breathe deeply. Inhale through the nose, exhale slowly through the mouth. Rehearse. Out loud.

Half of being a good voice guy is having a good set of ears. Mine, by the way, are shot. Occupational hazard. Tinitus, 8kH left ear and 3.2kHz in the other. But I can still talk up a post and hear lousy compression and bad processing when it's there.

Take care of your voice. No booze, no soda/pop, no cigarettes. Seriously. You don't have to be a monk, but at least practice moderation. Learn and know what affects your throat. Have a beer occasionally, one a day isn't gonna hurt for sure, but don't mainline Johnny Walker Red or Stolly.

Good luck to you. And when people tell you "you can't," let that motivate you to show them you can. Oh, and it ain't necessarily the electronic equipment in your studio, it's your the natural equipment and how you use it.

Oh, one another thing. I wish I'd found out about this stuff about ten years earlier in my career. I know first hand that givin' advice is a lot easier than takin' it. Be well!
 
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