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What songs did KRIZ play that KRUX didn't...or vica versa?
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Re: What songs did KRIZ play that KRUX didn't...or vice versa?
KRUX got early release tapes of three new Beatles songs. During the guitar instrumental bridge they would
have a quick "K-R-U-X'clusive"... This was early 1966, IIRC. Al McCoy mentioned it at the KRUX Reunion, that he
had some connections at Capitol Records, and jumped at the chance to beat KRIZ.
KRIZ and KRUX also had a feud with "In-A-Godda-Davida" by Iron Butterfly. There was a long version as well as a shortened
one to fit the formats of the day, especially during drive time. After a short time, KRIZ made the on-air challenge to ONLY
play the long version; even at 4:30 PM, and then they started the long one.
KRIZ DJ, Phil Motta, had a local hit band P-NUT Butter, with a hit "What Am I Doin' Here Wth You" - Motta avoided playing his own
song on his own show until a phone call on air, a girl requested it...
KRUX DJ, Woody Star, had a local hit, "All Over Now" - a cross-over to country stations as well.
I do not recall those songs on the competing station.
This is only the tip of the iceberg. I am sure I am forgetting many more.
Later, William Edward Compton on KRUX had Sunday night Album cuts - KRIZ did not.
The competition was fierce and we listeners loved it !!
KRUX got early release tapes of three new Beatles songs. During the guitar instrumental bridge they would
have a quick "K-R-U-X'clusive"... This was early 1966, IIRC. Al McCoy mentioned it at the KRUX Reunion, that he
had some connections at Capitol Records, and jumped at the chance to beat KRIZ.
KRIZ and KRUX also had a feud with "In-A-Godda-Davida" by Iron Butterfly. There was a long version as well as a shortened
one to fit the formats of the day, especially during drive time. After a short time, KRIZ made the on-air challenge to ONLY
play the long version; even at 4:30 PM, and then they started the long one.
KRIZ DJ, Phil Motta, had a local hit band P-NUT Butter, with a hit "What Am I Doin' Here Wth You" - Motta avoided playing his own
song on his own show until a phone call on air, a girl requested it...
KRUX DJ, Woody Star, had a local hit, "All Over Now" - a cross-over to country stations as well.
I do not recall those songs on the competing station.
This is only the tip of the iceberg. I am sure I am forgetting many more.
Later, William Edward Compton on KRUX had Sunday night Album cuts - KRIZ did not.
The competition was fierce and we listeners loved it !!
Here's one from 1968: I clearly remember KRIZ playing the 45 RPM version of "Lonely Little Girl" by the Mothers of Invention; KRUX......mmmm, not so much!!!
KRIZ also played the long version of In-A-Gadda-Da-Vida (each time trumpeting "all 17 minutes" of the wretched thing.) But it seemed pretty bitchen at the time...
Of course you also have to bear in mind (at least for much of the mid-to-late 60's) it was the KRIZ "Boss 50" vs. the KRUX "Top 30". Upon first moving to Phoenix as a young teenager, I remember picking up a printed copy of each at "Recordland" in Thomas Mall (talk about a blast from the past!), and then and there making a snap decision about which station I'd listen to -- based on which one (apparently) played more songs -- at least according to my personal "instant research" project
For the most part I was pretty happy with KRIZ (I also enjoyed the jocks' sense of humor, particularly the original Tony Evans -- with his ever-present Arch Oboler canned laugh track. I remember being quite disappointed when KRIZ eventually (for whatever reason) got rid of him, replaced by...(if memory serves) Joe Light, I think it was?
At one point circa '66 KRIZ did piss me off royally, however, when they started charging 50 cents a copy for their previously-free "Boss Line" weekly newsrag! Nobody ever knew it but in my own way I retaliated by (briefly) defecting to KRUX. However for the most part I found the overall KRUX presentation rather stodgy for my 13-year-old "taste", and their jocks reminded me of my teachers trying to sound cool -- all in all pretty boring...(the original Bob Shannon being the notable exception...)
KRIZ also played the long version of In-A-Gadda-Da-Vida (each time trumpeting "all 17 minutes" of the wretched thing.) But it seemed pretty bitchen at the time...
Of course you also have to bear in mind (at least for much of the mid-to-late 60's) it was the KRIZ "Boss 50" vs. the KRUX "Top 30". Upon first moving to Phoenix as a young teenager, I remember picking up a printed copy of each at "Recordland" in Thomas Mall (talk about a blast from the past!), and then and there making a snap decision about which station I'd listen to -- based on which one (apparently) played more songs -- at least according to my personal "instant research" project
For the most part I was pretty happy with KRIZ (I also enjoyed the jocks' sense of humor, particularly the original Tony Evans -- with his ever-present Arch Oboler canned laugh track. I remember being quite disappointed when KRIZ eventually (for whatever reason) got rid of him, replaced by...(if memory serves) Joe Light, I think it was?
At one point circa '66 KRIZ did piss me off royally, however, when they started charging 50 cents a copy for their previously-free "Boss Line" weekly newsrag! Nobody ever knew it but in my own way I retaliated by (briefly) defecting to KRUX. However for the most part I found the overall KRUX presentation rather stodgy for my 13-year-old "taste", and their jocks reminded me of my teachers trying to sound cool -- all in all pretty boring...(the original Bob Shannon being the notable exception...)
Did KRUX throw in country music?
In a 70s KRUX aircheck I have, they were doing a short "Traffic Watch" report and the girl was talking over the intro to Freddie Heart's "Easy Loving." (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GlrmSH4WkK4)
Or maybe they just used the intro of the song to talk over for the traffic?
I know there are plenty of hits that could pass as both country and rock, but I wouldn't think this would be the case for this particular song.
In a 70s KRUX aircheck I have, they were doing a short "Traffic Watch" report and the girl was talking over the intro to Freddie Heart's "Easy Loving." (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GlrmSH4WkK4)
Or maybe they just used the intro of the song to talk over for the traffic?
I know there are plenty of hits that could pass as both country and rock, but I wouldn't think this would be the case for this particular song.
KOOL Listener Lauren said:
Ah, the infamous Todd Wallace "August bus" aircheck!
No doubt the song was in rotation on KRUX, as it came out of a jingle, which would have
been “format” with the Drake jingles. Also, the song was a current then (hit the Billboard
chart in August ’71).
When you listen to the entire song today, it sounds so out of place for a Top 40 station,
but there were quite a few country (and MOR) crossovers on the air then.
Dave Atonement said:
Bob says “the check’s in the mail.”
KLL - Freddie Hart's "Easy Lovin'" turned into a legit crossover hit into Top 40... I played it when I worked in Top 40 in Portland.
I recall several stations also turned Jerry Reed's "Amos Moses" into another crossover hit at the time...
I recall several stations also turned Jerry Reed's "Amos Moses" into another crossover hit at the time...
radiobum said:
I recall "Flowers On The Wall" by The Statler Bros, "Abilene" by George Hamilton and "Detroit City" by Bobby Bare were all played on NYC top 40 radio. The latter two were from 1963, "Flowers On The Wall" was from 1965.
I have no recollection of "Still" or "Six Days On The Road". Who recorded those songs? Perhaps KRUX played them in their day. Never heard those in NYC.
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Mike Lee TN
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I remember having a now comical conversation with Long John Ball (Alan M.) when he was music director at KRIZ as to why KRUX was playing Van McCoy's "The Hustle" and KRIZ wasn't. I remember him eventually mock shouting, "My gawd, I'm arguing with a 14 year old over why I'm not spinning The Hustle." They added it a few weeks later and I felt oh so vindicated. ;D
radiobum said:
Thanks radiobum! I'm familiar with Roger Miller. "King Of The Road" and his other hits showed up on NYC top 40 radio during the mid-60s.
Not familiar with 'Whispering' Bill Anderson or Dave Dudley, but that was the beauty of 1960s top 40 radio. It spawned lots of regional hits that received little or no airplay in many markets.
and i'm sure a market like Phoenix would have had more country crossovers on Top 40 than say the Northeast . both the dudley and anderson songs were big country hits and the former has to be one of the best truck driving songs ever ('i'm taking little white pills and my eyes are open wide')
radiobum said:
Makes a whole lot of sense! I'm sure a lot of street corner doo wop and R & B records that did well in markets like NYC, Philly and Chicago rarely if ever got airplay in Phoenix. That might've changed some when people from those areas started moving to Phoenix. I know there's going to be a Doo Wop show in Mesa this weekend. That show will probably have many transplants in attendance.
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I have no recollection of "Still" or "Six Days On The Road". Who recorded those songs?
Still by Bill Anderson and Six Days On the Road by Dave Dudley were both crossover hits that were played on many pop stations. Today there are probably only two stations in Arizona that would be caught dead playing 1960s country: 930 in Flagstaff and 97.7 in Benson. Both are locally programmed by radio enthusiasts who have big record collections. 96.3 in Wickenburg programs classic country but they do it on the cheap using a dull satellite service.
Country music has always been big in Arizona and not all people who listened to it in the 1960s are dead. Do it properly and you can get some decent numbers.
Still by Bill Anderson and Six Days On the Road by Dave Dudley were both crossover hits that were played on many pop stations. Today there are probably only two stations in Arizona that would be caught dead playing 1960s country: 930 in Flagstaff and 97.7 in Benson. Both are locally programmed by radio enthusiasts who have big record collections. 96.3 in Wickenburg programs classic country but they do it on the cheap using a dull satellite service.
Country music has always been big in Arizona and not all people who listened to it in the 1960s are dead. Do it properly and you can get some decent numbers.
caveman-97 said:
No disclaimer there, Cavedude?
But certainly kudos for the "locally programmed" angle.
Just correcting a earlier post. The Doo Wop show I mentioned at the Mesa Arts Center was held last Saturday Nov 13. IMHO, many Northeast and Midwest transplants to the Phoenix area were in attendance.
Perhaps we should also mention the Chino Valley KDDL - Cattle Country 94.3 KHz - mostly country
classic oldies - from many decades of C & W and Country Oldies. It serves the Chino Valley -
Prescott and Prescott Valley area. KDDL has a some pretty loyal listeners...
8)
radioguy39nj said:Just correcting a earlier post. The Doo Wop show I mentioned at the Mesa Arts Center was held last Saturday Nov 13. IMHO, many Northeast and Midwest transplants to the Phoenix area were in attendance.
The vast majority of legal transplants into Phoenix come from CA (#1) and Chicago/Midwest (#2). There are not many Northeasterners here by comparison (not enough kul-cha) and very few from the South (they dry out and crack).
landtuna said:radioguy39nj said:Just correcting a earlier post. The Doo Wop show I mentioned at the Mesa Arts Center was held last Saturday Nov 13. IMHO, many Northeast and Midwest transplants to the Phoenix area were in attendance.
The vast majority of legal transplants into Phoenix come from CA (#1) and Chicago/Midwest (#2). There are not many Northeasterners here by comparison (not enough kul-cha) and very few from the South (they dry out and crack).
Very true! CA and Chicago/Midwest are closer to AZ than the Northeast, but I have a number of former HS classmates who are now in the Valley. Northeasterners may be fewer in number in AZ, but there's a fair complement of them there. They don't all go to FL. Too humid!
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