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What stations deserve a second chance?

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travisl5678

A thread I saw on the LA Board, thought I'd bring it here

The first ones I thought about-
KFRC 106.9/99.7: Given time, KFRC could have been the SF K-Earth
KGO-FM 103.7:I'm sure if Citadel still owned 103.7 they would have done this long ago


Anyone care to add?
 
Mike said:
Classic Country on KNEW. They were doing surprisingly well when the plug was pulled.
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I have several radio station comeback ideas:

1170 KLOK I liked this station even when they were an MOR station in the 1970's

560 KSFO I loved their Adult Standards format from the 1970's and early 1980's

93.3 KYA I would love to see the oldies format return to conventional radio

That's my format comeback ideas...now what's yours?
 
travisl5678 said:
99.7 is CHR though
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The heading of this thread is What station deserves a second chance. I simply stated that X-100 (KXXX-FM). Regardless of the format. I believe they deserve a second chance. St. John would feel at home since he did eveings at X-100.
 
KKCY "The City" on 98.9. A small but loyal audience and you never knew what they were going to play next.
 
KMPX-106.9 when they were underground as well as when they were big band.
 
The original 103.7 KKSF.

Same original concept heard on that station around 1987-1991, just updated for 2011. That does NOT mean Kenny G and Motown oldies (which became the norm on 103.7 later), but rather a contemporary, adventurous, eclectic, mellow mix...more about the vibe than the hits. With tons of community involvement in the spirit of their old charity CD samplers and listener gatherings, again, updated to address relevant issues of today.

But it's only wishful thinking. What, a commercial broadcast station that truly speaks to Bay Area adults? It'll never happen again, at least not as long as every operator seeking 25-54s feels they have to dredge up "Layla" twice a day to do so.
 
NoMoreLurking said:
The original 103.7 KKSF.

Same original concept heard on that station around 1987-1991, just updated for 2011. That does NOT mean Kenny G and Motown oldies (which became the norm on 103.7 later), but rather a contemporary, adventurous, eclectic, mellow mix...more about the vibe than the hits. With tons of community involvement in the spirit of their old charity CD samplers and listener gatherings, again, updated to address relevant issues of today.

But it's only wishful thinking. What, a commercial broadcast station that truly speaks to Bay Area adults? It'll never happen again, at least not as long as every operator seeking 25-54s feels they have to dredge up "Layla" twice a day to do so.
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I miss the old KKSF when Hoyt Smith was there. But the problem with KKSF is that it drifted to the Quiet Storm format from KBLX. Well I like to Hear KKHI get a second chance and KUSF. But the KKHI Call letters went to Denver. I Like to see a classical Music Station compete against KDFC. and an NAC Station Compete against KKSF. Also an AAA Station like KKCY compete against KFOG.
 
Madmansam said:
KMPX-106.9 when they were underground as well as when they were big band.
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As long as were pining away nostalgically for long lost stations, I'll put in a vote for KTIM-FM, 100.9 The North Bay Noise which ran an eclectic "underground rock" format from the early 70s (possibly earlier) into the early 80s. A number of the KSAN and KMPX DJs went through K-Tim, including Bobby Dale. For most of that era, it was owned by the Marin Independent-Journal, San Rafael's skimpy but very profitable daily newspaper, which left the station alone to program whatever they wanted.

KTIM survived more or less under the San Francisco radio radar and provided some great radio, depending primarily on local Marin advertisers. Unfortunately, the signal was weak in San Francisco anywhere east of the Richmond district - not sure about the East Bay.

Some idiot in charge finally flipped the station in the mid 80s to become the Bay Area's first "smooth jazz" station (before KKSF), and called it The Wave, copying 94.7 in LA. The owners of 94.7 (not sure if it was CBS by then, or not) sued them for copyright infringement, and they had to beat a hasty retreat, becoming "The Tide." Bankruptcy followed not long after.
 
Z 95.7. Look at the air staff they had- Fernando Ventura now at Movin', Marcus D at Alice and Katy Mason also Alice. Gene & Julie have been really successful in Dallas-Ft. Worth. Z 95.7 ratings were good but Bonneville didn't stick with it.
 
Lkeller said:
Madmansam said:
KMPX-106.9 when they were underground as well as when they were big band.
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As long as were pining away nostalgically for long lost stations, I'll put in a vote for KTIM-FM, 100.9 The North Bay Noise which ran an eclectic "underground rock" format from the early 70s (possibly earlier) into the early 80s. A number of the KSAN and KMPX DJs went through K-Tim, including Bobby Dale. For most of that era, it was owned by the Marin Independent-Journal, San Rafael's skimpy but very profitable daily newspaper, which left the station alone to program whatever they wanted.

KTIM survived more or less under the San Francisco radio radar and provided some great radio, depending primarily on local Marin advertisers. Unfortunately, the signal was weak in San Francisco anywhere east of the Richmond district - not sure about the East Bay.

Some idiot in charge finally flipped the station in the mid 80s to become the Bay Area's first "smooth jazz" station (before KKSF), and called it The Wave, copying 94.7 in LA. The owners of 94.7 (not sure if it was CBS by then, or not) sued them for copyright infringement, and they had to beat a hasty retreat, becoming "The Tide." Bankruptcy followed not long after.
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Wow I never knew 100.9 fm existed in the Bay Area also I had No idea KTIM was even a Smooth Jazz station for a short stint before KKSF took over I thought KBLX was a smooth jazz station under different names like The Quiet Storm.
 
recto101 said:
Lkeller said:
Madmansam said:
KMPX-106.9 when they were underground as well as when they were big band.
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As long as were pining away nostalgically for long lost stations, I'll put in a vote for KTIM-FM, 100.9 The North Bay Noise which ran an eclectic "underground rock" format from the early 70s (possibly earlier) into the early 80s. A number of the KSAN and KMPX DJs went through K-Tim, including Bobby Dale. For most of that era, it was owned by the Marin Independent-Journal, San Rafael's skimpy but very profitable daily newspaper, which left the station alone to program whatever they wanted.

KTIM survived more or less under the San Francisco radio radar and provided some great radio, depending primarily on local Marin advertisers. Unfortunately, the signal was weak in San Francisco anywhere east of the Richmond district - not sure about the East Bay.

Some idiot in charge finally flipped the station in the mid 80s to become the Bay Area's first "smooth jazz" station (before KKSF), and called it The Wave, copying 94.7 in LA. The owners of 94.7 (not sure if it was CBS by then, or not) sued them for copyright infringement, and they had to beat a hasty retreat, becoming "The Tide." Bankruptcy followed not long after.
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Wow I never knew 100.9 fm existed in the Bay Area also I had No idea KTIM was even a Smooth Jazz station for a short stint before KKSF took over I thought KBLX was a smooth jazz station under different names like The Quiet Storm.
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Before Inner City bought KBLX in the late 70s, 102.9 was KRE-FM (FM "103" in those days, naturally), and had a "jazz fusion" format. The term "Smooth Jazz" hadn't been invented, and it was similar - but I'd say more eclectic and less excruciatingly "mellow" than KKSF.


KBLX was also similar, but more soul R&B oriented.
 
KOME---mid 70s, early 80s and KSAN---mid 70s. KOME--Great Album-Oriented Rock (remember that) with playlists that allowed DJ selection and KSAN---Free Form Rock. Each DJ (Dennis Erectus, Victor Bok, Richard Gossett are some examples) had a unique personality and voice. Several cuts were played off new albums. Sometimes entire albums got played. Old stuff was mixed with new stuff. The focus was away from the Top 40 hits. Yes, the Beatles, Stones and Zeppelin got played...but it was always deep cuts, not the hits. Stuff that is no longer on the radio. Today, you have to go to the hinterlands...Mendecino, or Cape Cod to find terrestrial stations that play this stuff. I miss intelligent, personality-influenced radio. I can't believe someone doesn't try this format again....a lot of boomers grew up on it.
 
I'll add the short incarnation of KOFY - "coffee radio" to that list. It was on 98.9 after the owners of KKCY sold that frequency to Jim Gabbert. I don't know the whole story and I've heard different rumors, but apparently there was a group called the "coalition to save the city" that attempted to block the sale of 98.9 to Gabbert. They withdrew their complaint when Gabbert agreed to run an eclectic format. For just a couple of months we had Bonnie Simmons, Thom O'Hair, Norman Davis, Nancy Walton, and a couple of others I can't remember (??Maybe Dan Carlisle??). They gave KFOG a serious run for their money at the time and scored a 2-share even though they were only on for 1/2 a ratings period. Then Gabbert pulled the plug and turned it into a top-40 effort that flopped. I agree that a modern version of "intelligent radio" should be tried here. One thing about AAA is that it seems to be different in every market, and the version of AAA that KFOG puts together is pretty lame compared to what is heard in the rest of the country.

I'd even like to see a KPIG-type format here. Only on an FM signal and with local talent - more than just a Monterey Bay translator.

Dave B.
 
KLRS "Colors" 99.1 Santa Cruz was great when I was there, 1988. The first "New Age" station in North America. It was great until Fuller-Jeffrey got rid of the jocks and went to a satellite service called "The Breeze" Ratings fell faster than a hard rain
 
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