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What the FCC should allow: Keeping only FM translators while silencing their AMs
- Thread starter Bill-in-CT
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Ha! That's one of the infamous Stolz stations that was tied up in legal wrangling for the last 5 years
Final Royce International Stations Turned Over To New Owners.
After fighting to hold onto his stations and taking multiple legal paths to do so, Ed Stolz’s Royce International Broadcasting is no longer a radio owner. In a pair of
I guess AutoPilot is now the owner.
I don't know if it was still 250 watts at night but when WIST went off the air while I was in college, I couldn't hear it. I was outside the Charlotte city limits but the area has been annexed now.
K.M. Richards
Program Director, The Eighties Channel™
According to your own post in another thread, KBET is operating during daytime hours.
In checking fccdata.org, I see a CP issued in February of last year to change from Class B 1kw days/300w nights, DA-2 to Class D 500w days only non-DA.
And there are links from there to the FCC's LMS, showing the issuance of an engineering STA granted last August, renewed in February, to operate under the facilities in that CP.
If, as you said in the other thread, they are operating daytime only (under the CP/STA combination) then K276GX is allowed to operate when they are off the air, provided they don't miss any days of the AM operating.
I know it sounds a little convoluted, but the "paper trail" is there making it legal.
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The station filed for an STA and a resumption of operation in February. It was broadcasting when I was in Vegas for NAB in April.
Of course they were on the air when everyone is in town for NAB. All the sketchy stations are on their best behavior in April. Someone went out there and ran the stuff off a generator for a few days. When y'all leave is when they revert back to thier old ways of overpowered translators, poor modulation, and inconsistent/infrequent operation.
Sure is a lot of hoops to jump through. I don't check it regularly, but in the last month or so, the AM has been off during the day as well. I feel bad for them, because that AM is just an expensive burden for them with nothing to show. They might be better off leasing an HD channel to feed it from instead of putting money into a solar powered 4 tower DA on BLM land.
K.M. Richards
Program Director, The Eighties Channel™
Okay, this is drifting farther away from reality. They have a CP for 500w days, non-D and a CP to operate with those facilities. Those are hard facts. The documentation exists at the FCC. Check LMS.
You do not need a four-tower array to run non-directional. It would be common sense to presume that three of those towers are headed for the scrap heap.
I tend to ask the same question every time someone becomes this tenacious, and I will ask it of you as well: Do you have some ulterior motive in wanting this station to die? It is bad enough that Stolz ran it into bankruptcy, but now you apparently want the new owners, who acquired it out of the bankruptcy, to lose what they have now invested in ... because you seem to want it to go away?
Uh, sure, right.
A licensee is going to send an engineer out to make repairs because a particular conference is going on in Vegas... and then pay them again to go break stuff a week later.
That's definitely how the world works.
K.M. Richards
Program Director, The Eighties Channel™
Exactly. I don't know what this poster's motives are, but I think he needs to either put up or shut up.
Do you think that the engineers of local stations are running around "fixing" things when, actually, they are attending NAB exhibits and conferences? That is pretty far out.
Whatever you call "poor modulation" is a matter of opinion. And the opinion that matters is the licensee, not yours.
How do you know translators are overpowered? Do you have an FM FSM yourself?
What are you trying to prove?
Are you sure they are operating illegally? According to the FCCdata site they have a CP for 500 watts non directional daytime.
A lot of class B AM stations are going bare minimum power* and downgrading to class D and using the 25 mile 60 DB coverage from their AM tower for their FM translator.
*IIRC 790 was an old "regional channel". It's been decades but at one time the lowest daytime power on a regional power station was 500 watts. I worked a couple that had PSAs that let them come on a 6AM with 500 watts then up to 1 or 5 kw at sunrise. I am not sure if the 500 watt minimum rule survived 80 90.
K.M. Richards
Program Director, The Eighties Channel™
And, as I pointed out and others have confirmed, they also have a STA to operate with the facilities in the CP. (His not wanting to "jump through the hoops" to access them is, to me, a case of "I am right and the rest of you are wrong because I say so" syndrome.) By continuing to make wild, unconfirmed statements at this point, Mr. Clipz triggers my "ulterior motives" alarm ... and I once again ask him what he thinks he will gain by flogging this dead horse of a situation.
And I, for one, don't blame them. There is no point in operating at higher power and maintaining a multi-tower array for an AM which has no audience on its own and only exists to allow the translator to operate.
Well, regardless of what the minimum rule applies to nowadays, the fact that our doubter needs to recognize is that FCC would not have issued that CP, and then the STA, if those were not valid facilities under the current Rules. And that makes moot everything having to do with the previously licensed directional tower array (which, as early as the day before yesterday, he was still referring to as if the CP and STA did not exist).
This nonsensical circular discussion needs to end ... it should have once Mr. Clipz made the questionable move of challenging the board owner.
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