With the move to DST this past weekend and those of us in Arizona switching time zones away from Denver and aligning with California, I got to thinking... in a few cases where large stations have signals that reach places in two time zones, which time is announced? Of course, I understand that, for example, WLW reaches parts of the Central zone, but since its based in Cincinnati and reaches Ohio and Kentucky, they use Eastern time. But for stations whose population is spread out close to equally between two zones, what time is it?
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oldiesfan
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> ...in a few cases where large stations have
> signals that reach places in two time zones,
> which time is announced?
Summer of 1973, with most of Indiana on EST,
Ron Gregory on WOWO Fort Wayne:
"9:15, 10:15 in Ohio and Michigan..."
Late summer 1971 with Michigan on EST and
Ontario on EDT--Frank Brodie on CKLW Windsor
from the great Bootleg Top 40 Volume 1 aircheck:
"...8:24, daylight time!"
> signals that reach places in two time zones,
> which time is announced?
Summer of 1973, with most of Indiana on EST,
Ron Gregory on WOWO Fort Wayne:
"9:15, 10:15 in Ohio and Michigan..."
Late summer 1971 with Michigan on EST and
Ontario on EDT--Frank Brodie on CKLW Windsor
from the great Bootleg Top 40 Volume 1 aircheck:
"...8:24, daylight time!"
> > ...in a few cases where large stations have
> > signals that reach places in two time zones,
> > which time is announced?
>
> Summer of 1973, with most of Indiana on EST,
> Ron Gregory on WOWO Fort Wayne:
>
> "9:15, 10:15 in Ohio and Michigan..."
>
> Late summer 1971 with Michigan on EST and
> Ontario on EDT--Frank Brodie on CKLW Windsor
> from the great Bootleg Top 40 Volume 1 aircheck:
>
> "...8:24, daylight time!"
So if WTAM, the rest of the Detroit stations, or some such similar station actually cared about Ontario listeners, they'd say, "This is the 5:00 report, 4:00 report in daylight zones"?
> > signals that reach places in two time zones,
> > which time is announced?
>
> Summer of 1973, with most of Indiana on EST,
> Ron Gregory on WOWO Fort Wayne:
>
> "9:15, 10:15 in Ohio and Michigan..."
>
> Late summer 1971 with Michigan on EST and
> Ontario on EDT--Frank Brodie on CKLW Windsor
> from the great Bootleg Top 40 Volume 1 aircheck:
>
> "...8:24, daylight time!"
So if WTAM, the rest of the Detroit stations, or some such similar station actually cared about Ontario listeners, they'd say, "This is the 5:00 report, 4:00 report in daylight zones"?
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oldiesfan
Guest
> So if WTAM, the rest of the Detroit stations,
WTAM Cleveland.
> or some such similar station actually cared
> about Ontario listeners, they'd say, "This is
> the 5:00 report, 4:00 report in daylight zones"?
The other way around--4:00 EST, 5:00 EDT.
WTAM Cleveland.
> or some such similar station actually cared
> about Ontario listeners, they'd say, "This is
> the 5:00 report, 4:00 report in daylight zones"?
The other way around--4:00 EST, 5:00 EDT.
> > So if WTAM, the rest of the Detroit stations,
>
> WTAM Cleveland.
I was trying to separate the two. Perhaps could have done a better job.
>
> WTAM Cleveland.
I was trying to separate the two. Perhaps could have done a better job.
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JohnnyMorganWXJX
Guest
> > > ...in a few cases where large stations have
> > > signals that reach places in two time zones,
> > > which time is announced?
> >
> > Summer of 1973, with most of Indiana on EST,
> > Ron Gregory on WOWO Fort Wayne:
> >
> > "9:15, 10:15 in Ohio and Michigan..."
> >
> > Late summer 1971 with Michigan on EST and
> > Ontario on EDT--Frank Brodie on CKLW Windsor
> > from the great Bootleg Top 40 Volume 1 aircheck:
> >
> > "...8:24, daylight time!"
>
> So if WTAM, the rest of the Detroit stations, or some such
> similar station actually cared about Ontario listeners,
> they'd say, "This is the 5:00 report, 4:00 report in
> daylight zones"?
Not anymore. Back then, Windsor was on daylight time, and Michigan was not. So, being a Windsor station, but serving the Motor City (as the Johnny Mann Singers reminded us melodically every hour!), CKLW would report TWO TIMES (9.17 in Windsor, 8.17 in Detroit). In the early Drake days, the show times were based on Detroit time (so, Charlie Van Dyke was on at 6am Detroit time--7am Windsor time).
At some point in the 70s--probably around 1973--it switched and Michigan went to daylight time, but Windsor did not. So, the times were switched.
I believe both the US and Canada celebrate (?) DST, so it's not an issue now.
If I screwed any of that up, please clarify!
> > > signals that reach places in two time zones,
> > > which time is announced?
> >
> > Summer of 1973, with most of Indiana on EST,
> > Ron Gregory on WOWO Fort Wayne:
> >
> > "9:15, 10:15 in Ohio and Michigan..."
> >
> > Late summer 1971 with Michigan on EST and
> > Ontario on EDT--Frank Brodie on CKLW Windsor
> > from the great Bootleg Top 40 Volume 1 aircheck:
> >
> > "...8:24, daylight time!"
>
> So if WTAM, the rest of the Detroit stations, or some such
> similar station actually cared about Ontario listeners,
> they'd say, "This is the 5:00 report, 4:00 report in
> daylight zones"?
Not anymore. Back then, Windsor was on daylight time, and Michigan was not. So, being a Windsor station, but serving the Motor City (as the Johnny Mann Singers reminded us melodically every hour!), CKLW would report TWO TIMES (9.17 in Windsor, 8.17 in Detroit). In the early Drake days, the show times were based on Detroit time (so, Charlie Van Dyke was on at 6am Detroit time--7am Windsor time).
At some point in the 70s--probably around 1973--it switched and Michigan went to daylight time, but Windsor did not. So, the times were switched.
I believe both the US and Canada celebrate (?) DST, so it's not an issue now.
If I screwed any of that up, please clarify!
> With the move to DST this past weekend and those of us in
> Arizona switching time zones away from Denver and aligning
> with California, I got to thinking... in a few cases where
> large stations have signals that reach places in two time
> zones, which time is announced? Of course, I understand
> that, for example, WLW reaches parts of the Central zone,
> but since its based in Cincinnati and reaches Ohio and
> Kentucky, they use Eastern time. But for stations whose
> population is spread out close to equally between two zones,
> what time is it?
>
If I remember correctly, WHAS Louisville sometimes used to announce Kentucky and Indiana time during daylight savings because half their signal covers southern Indiana. WORX-FM/WXGO-AM Madison, Indiana (my hometown) used to do this also I believe since the signal spread across the state borders. Of course, this was before DST was used in Indiana.
> Arizona switching time zones away from Denver and aligning
> with California, I got to thinking... in a few cases where
> large stations have signals that reach places in two time
> zones, which time is announced? Of course, I understand
> that, for example, WLW reaches parts of the Central zone,
> but since its based in Cincinnati and reaches Ohio and
> Kentucky, they use Eastern time. But for stations whose
> population is spread out close to equally between two zones,
> what time is it?
>
If I remember correctly, WHAS Louisville sometimes used to announce Kentucky and Indiana time during daylight savings because half their signal covers southern Indiana. WORX-FM/WXGO-AM Madison, Indiana (my hometown) used to do this also I believe since the signal spread across the state borders. Of course, this was before DST was used in Indiana.
In 1975 the U.S. went on Daylight Time in January, and Canada did not. CKLW had the times reversed from the late 60s example.
Some areas in NW Indiana near the Eastern/Central line use "8:00 Central, 9:00 eastern". I remember hearing a station in rural SE Indiana announcing community events in "slow" or "fast" time.<P ID="signature">______________
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Some areas in NW Indiana near the Eastern/Central line use "8:00 Central, 9:00 eastern". I remember hearing a station in rural SE Indiana announcing community events in "slow" or "fast" time.<P ID="signature">______________
"Your right to know supersedes your right to exist"..Gary Burbank</P>
> In 1975 the U.S. went on Daylight Time in January, and
> Canada did not. CKLW had the times reversed from the late
> 60s example.
>
> Some areas in NW Indiana near the Eastern/Central line use
> "8:00 Central, 9:00 eastern". I remember hearing a station
> in rural SE Indiana announcing community events in "slow" or
> "fast" time.
>
I know in South Bend, their signals (both radio & TV) crossed into Michigan. With radio, they ignored announcing Michigan time during the summer months, and only focussed on St Joseph County, since the South Bend Arbitron Market only rates St Joseph County. For TV, they used to announce, for example, The Tonight Show on WNDU-TV 16, 10:35pm/11:35pm in Michigan. Since South Bend is now on EDT, they no longer have to do that, though their signals still cross into LaPorte County, but Neilson doesn't rate LaPorte County in the South Bend books. So TV stations only mention EDT, unless they still mention central time for Starke County Indiana since that county in Indiana is part of the South Bend TV market.
> Canada did not. CKLW had the times reversed from the late
> 60s example.
>
> Some areas in NW Indiana near the Eastern/Central line use
> "8:00 Central, 9:00 eastern". I remember hearing a station
> in rural SE Indiana announcing community events in "slow" or
> "fast" time.
>
I know in South Bend, their signals (both radio & TV) crossed into Michigan. With radio, they ignored announcing Michigan time during the summer months, and only focussed on St Joseph County, since the South Bend Arbitron Market only rates St Joseph County. For TV, they used to announce, for example, The Tonight Show on WNDU-TV 16, 10:35pm/11:35pm in Michigan. Since South Bend is now on EDT, they no longer have to do that, though their signals still cross into LaPorte County, but Neilson doesn't rate LaPorte County in the South Bend books. So TV stations only mention EDT, unless they still mention central time for Starke County Indiana since that county in Indiana is part of the South Bend TV market.
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oldiesfan
Guest
> CKLW would report TWO TIMES...
You sure you're not really Dale Wehba?
;-)
You sure you're not really Dale Wehba?
;-)
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JohnnyMorganWXJX
Guest
> > CKLW would report TWO TIMES...
>
> You sure you're not really Dale Wehba?
>
> ;-)
Completely sure. But I'm flattered beyond belief any time someone asks. I could only be so lucky. He's more talented than I am by about a gazillion times.
>
> You sure you're not really Dale Wehba?
>
> ;-)
Completely sure. But I'm flattered beyond belief any time someone asks. I could only be so lucky. He's more talented than I am by about a gazillion times.
> "I remember hearing a station in rural SE Indiana announcing community events in "slow" or "fast" time."
I think that station was probably my hometown station I mentioned higher up in the thread... WORX-FM 96.7 Madison, IN and its AM sister 1270 WXGO. I remember using the terms "fast" and "slow" time growing up, even though it makes no literal sense at all.
I think that station was probably my hometown station I mentioned higher up in the thread... WORX-FM 96.7 Madison, IN and its AM sister 1270 WXGO. I remember using the terms "fast" and "slow" time growing up, even though it makes no literal sense at all.
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