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> What top markets need a top 40 station?
>
Denver
San Francisco
Milwaukee (One that isn't almost all rhythmic)
Those are the ones I can think of off the top of my head
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Denver
San Francisco
Milwaukee (One that isn't almost all rhythmic)
Those are the ones I can think of off the top of my head
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> > What top markets need a top 40 station?
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>
> Denver
> San Francisco
> Milwaukee (One that isn't almost all rhythmic)
>
> Those are the ones I can think of off the top of my head
>
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>
> Denver
> San Francisco
> Milwaukee (One that isn't almost all rhythmic)
>
> Those are the ones I can think of off the top of my head
>
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spongebag7
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> > > What top markets need a top 40 station?
> > >
> >
> > Denver
> > San Francisco
> > Milwaukee (One that isn't almost all rhythmic)
> >
> > Those are the ones I can think of off the top of my head
> >
>
> Baltimore doesn't have one, at least one in-market.
>
Phoenix has one, but it's very and I mean VERY rhythmic leaning.
> > >
> >
> > Denver
> > San Francisco
> > Milwaukee (One that isn't almost all rhythmic)
> >
> > Those are the ones I can think of off the top of my head
> >
>
> Baltimore doesn't have one, at least one in-market.
>
Phoenix has one, but it's very and I mean VERY rhythmic leaning.
> > > > What top markets need a top 40 station?
> > > >
> > >
> > > Denver
> > > San Francisco
> > > Milwaukee (One that isn't almost all rhythmic)
> > >
> > > Those are the ones I can think of off the top of my head
>
> > >
> >
> > Baltimore doesn't have one, at least one in-market.
> >
>
> Phoenix has one, but it's very and I mean VERY rhythmic
> leaning.
>
That's probably because it was a tweak from rhythmic CHR. WSNX Grand Rapids is like that too except worse. From logs I have seen on yes, its about the same as WXSS in Milwaukee (Which like KZZP before Kiss used to be pretty decent) I know ZZP has that R&B Slow Jam show at night. I don't see where that fits in at all but oh well.<P ID="signature">______________
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> > > >
> > >
> > > Denver
> > > San Francisco
> > > Milwaukee (One that isn't almost all rhythmic)
> > >
> > > Those are the ones I can think of off the top of my head
>
> > >
> >
> > Baltimore doesn't have one, at least one in-market.
> >
>
> Phoenix has one, but it's very and I mean VERY rhythmic
> leaning.
>
That's probably because it was a tweak from rhythmic CHR. WSNX Grand Rapids is like that too except worse. From logs I have seen on yes, its about the same as WXSS in Milwaukee (Which like KZZP before Kiss used to be pretty decent) I know ZZP has that R&B Slow Jam show at night. I don't see where that fits in at all but oh well.<P ID="signature">______________
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DaytonRadio
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> > > > What top markets need a top 40 station?
> > > >
> > >
> > > Denver
> > > San Francisco
> > > Milwaukee (One that isn't almost all rhythmic)
> > >
> > > Those are the ones I can think of off the top of my head
>
> > >
> >
> > Baltimore doesn't have one, at least one in-market.
> >
>
> Phoenix has one, but it's very and I mean VERY rhythmic
> leaning.
Same in Cincinnati and Detroit.
> > > >
> > >
> > > Denver
> > > San Francisco
> > > Milwaukee (One that isn't almost all rhythmic)
> > >
> > > Those are the ones I can think of off the top of my head
>
> > >
> >
> > Baltimore doesn't have one, at least one in-market.
> >
>
> Phoenix has one, but it's very and I mean VERY rhythmic
> leaning.
Same in Cincinnati and Detroit.
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spongebag7
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> > > > > What top markets need a top 40 station?
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > > Denver
> > > > San Francisco
> > > > Milwaukee (One that isn't almost all rhythmic)
> > > >
> > > > Those are the ones I can think of off the top of my
> head
> >
> > > >
> > >
> > > Baltimore doesn't have one, at least one in-market.
> > >
> >
> > Phoenix has one, but it's very and I mean VERY rhythmic
> > leaning.
> >
>
> That's probably because it was a tweak from rhythmic CHR.
> WSNX Grand Rapids is like that too except worse. From logs I
> have seen on yes, its about the same as WXSS in Milwaukee
> (Which like KZZP before Kiss used to be pretty decent) I
> know ZZP has that R&B Slow Jam show at night. I don't see
> where that fits in at all but oh well.
>
Actually, believe it or not, a LOT of rhythmic stations and rhythmic leaning CHR/Pops have some kind of slow jam at night.
I wonder why KZZP would put so much rhythmic in their station. Come to think of it, you would think that they would put less rhythmic in their station, Phoenix has a very low black population...then yet, that doesn't always mean whites don't like rap. And, it's a CC station, so you'd definitely think they'd go by population. But, KZZP is doing well, and that's all CC cares about...money.
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > > Denver
> > > > San Francisco
> > > > Milwaukee (One that isn't almost all rhythmic)
> > > >
> > > > Those are the ones I can think of off the top of my
> head
> >
> > > >
> > >
> > > Baltimore doesn't have one, at least one in-market.
> > >
> >
> > Phoenix has one, but it's very and I mean VERY rhythmic
> > leaning.
> >
>
> That's probably because it was a tweak from rhythmic CHR.
> WSNX Grand Rapids is like that too except worse. From logs I
> have seen on yes, its about the same as WXSS in Milwaukee
> (Which like KZZP before Kiss used to be pretty decent) I
> know ZZP has that R&B Slow Jam show at night. I don't see
> where that fits in at all but oh well.
>
Actually, believe it or not, a LOT of rhythmic stations and rhythmic leaning CHR/Pops have some kind of slow jam at night.
I wonder why KZZP would put so much rhythmic in their station. Come to think of it, you would think that they would put less rhythmic in their station, Phoenix has a very low black population...then yet, that doesn't always mean whites don't like rap. And, it's a CC station, so you'd definitely think they'd go by population. But, KZZP is doing well, and that's all CC cares about...money.
Columbus Ohio, Half the Time durning the day WNCI leans "Hot AC" to cater towards the adults.
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> Columbus Ohio, Half the Time durning the day WNCI leans "Hot
> AC" to cater towards the adults.
>
KHKS 106.1 in Dallas is also very Rhythmic leaning. And we already have 4 other Rhythmic stations here.
> AC" to cater towards the adults.
>
KHKS 106.1 in Dallas is also very Rhythmic leaning. And we already have 4 other Rhythmic stations here.
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ATyler
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Some of you seem to be missing the point of what Top 40 radio is...
"Pop"... "Popular."
Whether you like it or not, what is "popular" right now is rhythmic music. I'm sure that most of you realize that Top 40 music has its cycles, where one genre will be dominant and then gets replaced by another six months, a year, two years down the road... Right now, it's in the rhythmic part of the cycle.
Somebody brought up WXSS... Look at their ratings... Some of the highest they've ever been... Same thing with KHKS.<P ID="signature">______________
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WVZA / Marion - Carbondale, IL
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WAKZ / Youngstown, OH
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"Pop"... "Popular."
Whether you like it or not, what is "popular" right now is rhythmic music. I'm sure that most of you realize that Top 40 music has its cycles, where one genre will be dominant and then gets replaced by another six months, a year, two years down the road... Right now, it's in the rhythmic part of the cycle.
Somebody brought up WXSS... Look at their ratings... Some of the highest they've ever been... Same thing with KHKS.<P ID="signature">______________
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Afternoons / MD
WVZA / Marion - Carbondale, IL
www.kissfm927.com
Weekends / Swing
KSLZ / St. Louis
WAKZ / Youngstown, OH
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I'm gald Norfolk is off this list finally and w/ a damn good CHR station. WZNR- Zone @ 1061. Now if the singal was better (only covers 7 cites then it is gone quickly), but hope may be on the way in year.
When their no rock on 1061 contract expires then Sinclair can put 96X (low rated station) on 1061 and move 1061 to 961, they are know for movin station down there.
(937 Bob-FM moved after doing good on the weak 1061 signal known as 1061 Bob-FM, at that time country was on 937 as "937 Kick FM" and it became Kick 106)
Fredericksburg, VA needs a good CHR but it is a very small market. TO the north of the city you get DC's Hot 995, to the south Richmond's Q 94 and to the west Charlottesville "Hot 1019" - all three though all weak in city limits. Hot 995 does best there in the city.
> > Columbus Ohio, Half the Time durning the day WNCI leans
> "Hot
> > AC" to cater towards the adults.
> >
> KHKS 106.1 in Dallas is also very Rhythmic leaning. And we
> already have 4 other Rhythmic stations here.
>
When their no rock on 1061 contract expires then Sinclair can put 96X (low rated station) on 1061 and move 1061 to 961, they are know for movin station down there.
(937 Bob-FM moved after doing good on the weak 1061 signal known as 1061 Bob-FM, at that time country was on 937 as "937 Kick FM" and it became Kick 106)
Fredericksburg, VA needs a good CHR but it is a very small market. TO the north of the city you get DC's Hot 995, to the south Richmond's Q 94 and to the west Charlottesville "Hot 1019" - all three though all weak in city limits. Hot 995 does best there in the city.
> > Columbus Ohio, Half the Time durning the day WNCI leans
> "Hot
> > AC" to cater towards the adults.
> >
> KHKS 106.1 in Dallas is also very Rhythmic leaning. And we
> already have 4 other Rhythmic stations here.
>
> What top markets need a top 40 station?
>
They ALL do.
Because of fragmatization of music formats. (CHR/pop,CHR/rock,CHR/urban,CHR/Rap) will not go into other formats,there is still not one station that will play ALL of todays hits regardless of the format.
>
They ALL do.
Because of fragmatization of music formats. (CHR/pop,CHR/rock,CHR/urban,CHR/Rap) will not go into other formats,there is still not one station that will play ALL of todays hits regardless of the format.
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EvanJ1
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Other markets without a CHR-Pop station:
Augusta, GA
York, PA (gets WHKF Harrisburg-Lebanon-Carlisle)
Las Vegas, NV
Monterey-Salinas-Santa Cruz, CA
Bakersfield, CA
Johnson City-Kingsport-Bristol, TN
Corpus Christi, TX
McAllen-Brownsville-Harlingen, TX
El Paso, TX
Fayetteville, NC
Worcester, MA (gets WXKS Boston)
Augusta, GA
York, PA (gets WHKF Harrisburg-Lebanon-Carlisle)
Las Vegas, NV
Monterey-Salinas-Santa Cruz, CA
Bakersfield, CA
Johnson City-Kingsport-Bristol, TN
Corpus Christi, TX
McAllen-Brownsville-Harlingen, TX
El Paso, TX
Fayetteville, NC
Worcester, MA (gets WXKS Boston)
> Somebody brought up WXSS... Look at their ratings... Some of
> the highest they've ever been... Same thing with KHKS.
>
They just dropped an entire point and it has been better. The best ever was in the summers of 1999 and 2000 when CHR wasn't almost all hip hop, but a good mix of pop, hip hop and rock. I miss those days. There really isn't much "pop" anymore to paste the rock and hip hop together. Its been replaced with hip hop and alternative tracks smashed together.
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> the highest they've ever been... Same thing with KHKS.
>
They just dropped an entire point and it has been better. The best ever was in the summers of 1999 and 2000 when CHR wasn't almost all hip hop, but a good mix of pop, hip hop and rock. I miss those days. There really isn't much "pop" anymore to paste the rock and hip hop together. Its been replaced with hip hop and alternative tracks smashed together.
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ATyler
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> They just dropped an entire point and it has been better.
> The best ever was in the summers of 1999 and 2000 when CHR
> wasn't almost all hip hop, but a good mix of pop, hip hop
> and rock. I miss those days. There really isn't much "pop"
> anymore to paste the rock and hip hop together. Its been
> replaced with hip hop and alternative tracks smashed
> together.
It was a trend, Jeremy.... Which means next to nothing. Wait for the actual book before you jump to that conclusion.
Oh wait, I forgot... You're just THE expert on WXSS, aren't you?<P ID="signature">______________
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Afternoons / MD
WVZA / Marion - Carbondale, IL
www.kissfm927.com
Weekends / Swing
KSLZ / St. Louis
WAKZ / Youngstown, OH
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> The best ever was in the summers of 1999 and 2000 when CHR
> wasn't almost all hip hop, but a good mix of pop, hip hop
> and rock. I miss those days. There really isn't much "pop"
> anymore to paste the rock and hip hop together. Its been
> replaced with hip hop and alternative tracks smashed
> together.
It was a trend, Jeremy.... Which means next to nothing. Wait for the actual book before you jump to that conclusion.
Oh wait, I forgot... You're just THE expert on WXSS, aren't you?<P ID="signature">______________
Aaron Tyler
Afternoons / MD
WVZA / Marion - Carbondale, IL
www.kissfm927.com
Weekends / Swing
KSLZ / St. Louis
WAKZ / Youngstown, OH
</P>
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xcfan13
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> > What top markets need a top 40 station?
> >
> They ALL do.
>
> Because of fragmatization of music formats.
> (CHR/pop,CHR/rock,CHR/urban,CHR/Rap) will not go into other
> formats,there is still not one station that will play ALL of
> todays hits regardless of the format.
>
Wow! That is an excellent point u just brought up.Thank you!
> >
> They ALL do.
>
> Because of fragmatization of music formats.
> (CHR/pop,CHR/rock,CHR/urban,CHR/Rap) will not go into other
> formats,there is still not one station that will play ALL of
> todays hits regardless of the format.
>
Wow! That is an excellent point u just brought up.Thank you!
>
> Oh wait, I forgot... You're just THE expert on WXSS, aren't
> you?
>
Considering I've been listening to that frequency and following it for over 10 years and witnessed everything on it from Soft AC to rhythmic AC to the birth of the CHR format to tweaks in the rhythmic direction to tweaks back to mainstream direction to tweaks into the rhythmic direction again with a positioner change (February 2003) to tweaks back into the maisntream direction 8 months later complete with a new jingle package to tweaks back to the rhythmic direction (March 2005) Airstaff leaving the station, airstaff joining and then leaving, MD leaving and then returning, 3 different morning shows in less then a year I would think I know at least a LITTLE bit about this station considering how long I have been listening, liking, hating and putting up with it.
since that recent "trend" the following songs were added:
Lifehouse - You & Me
Papa Roach - Scars (With "GO FIX YOURSELF" bleeped out)
Crossfade - Cold (Hip Hop Remix)
Simple Plan - Untitled
in addition to what was there before for non rhythmic Rob Thomas - Lonely No More and Howie Day - Collide
it almost 99.9% probably has nothing to do with the trend but its good regardless.
Unlike everybody else, I take what these stations do personally. Call me whatever but its the truth. Thats why I go on about it. I believe WXSS and stations that lean extremely rhythmic the way they do is a slap in the face to the MAINSTREAM CHR format. I believe they should all just get it over with and tweak to rhythmic CHR or urban. Same thing goes for stations like Star 94 in Atlanta that lean Hot AC/etc. Look at the downturn CHR has taken since everybody started being so rhythmic heavy. Seems like more and more CHRs keep dropping dead these days like they did in the early 90s.
I'm not saying these stations should go all rock, I'm basically saying balance it out and try NEW songs out (not just the hip hop) and give them a chance. Seems like CHR stations just follow what the others do or what some research person told them instead of trying something different and seeing how it works.
I refuse to listen to WXSS anymore. For CHR, I either do it myself using the computer and CDs, DX, trade airchecks or listen to the improving WKSC Chicago or Music Choice Hit List.
Sorry about the rant. I rarely rant but this really got to me.
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> Oh wait, I forgot... You're just THE expert on WXSS, aren't
> you?
>
Considering I've been listening to that frequency and following it for over 10 years and witnessed everything on it from Soft AC to rhythmic AC to the birth of the CHR format to tweaks in the rhythmic direction to tweaks back to mainstream direction to tweaks into the rhythmic direction again with a positioner change (February 2003) to tweaks back into the maisntream direction 8 months later complete with a new jingle package to tweaks back to the rhythmic direction (March 2005) Airstaff leaving the station, airstaff joining and then leaving, MD leaving and then returning, 3 different morning shows in less then a year I would think I know at least a LITTLE bit about this station considering how long I have been listening, liking, hating and putting up with it.
since that recent "trend" the following songs were added:
Lifehouse - You & Me
Papa Roach - Scars (With "GO FIX YOURSELF" bleeped out)
Crossfade - Cold (Hip Hop Remix)
Simple Plan - Untitled
in addition to what was there before for non rhythmic Rob Thomas - Lonely No More and Howie Day - Collide
it almost 99.9% probably has nothing to do with the trend but its good regardless.
Unlike everybody else, I take what these stations do personally. Call me whatever but its the truth. Thats why I go on about it. I believe WXSS and stations that lean extremely rhythmic the way they do is a slap in the face to the MAINSTREAM CHR format. I believe they should all just get it over with and tweak to rhythmic CHR or urban. Same thing goes for stations like Star 94 in Atlanta that lean Hot AC/etc. Look at the downturn CHR has taken since everybody started being so rhythmic heavy. Seems like more and more CHRs keep dropping dead these days like they did in the early 90s.
I'm not saying these stations should go all rock, I'm basically saying balance it out and try NEW songs out (not just the hip hop) and give them a chance. Seems like CHR stations just follow what the others do or what some research person told them instead of trying something different and seeing how it works.
I refuse to listen to WXSS anymore. For CHR, I either do it myself using the computer and CDs, DX, trade airchecks or listen to the improving WKSC Chicago or Music Choice Hit List.
Sorry about the rant. I rarely rant but this really got to me.
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> > They just dropped an entire point and it has been better.
> > The best ever was in the summers of 1999 and 2000 when CHR
>
> > wasn't almost all hip hop, but a good mix of pop, hip hop
> > and rock. I miss those days. There really isn't much "pop"
>
> > anymore to paste the rock and hip hop together. Its been
> > replaced with hip hop and alternative tracks smashed
> > together.
>
>
> It was a trend, Jeremy.... Which means next to nothing.
> Wait for the actual book before you jump to that conclusion.
>
>
> Oh wait, I forgot... You're just THE expert on WXSS, aren't
> you?
>
WIFC in the market I am in (Wausau, a small market, but not too small) has been doing outstanding constantly in ratings, on the top of the ratings. It has always been like that, and has always had a constant mix of Hip Hop, Rap, Rock, and Pop. It sounds good at that, and has ratings to proove it.
I also know that in Appleton, WIXX (WIFC's sister) is doing good in the ratings as well, and it is more rock based than WIFC is.
I think that it all depends on the area you are in, and how well the programmers acually program the station. Just my opinion, but if there were ever another CHR that pops up, it may crush WXSS into the ground if it were like WIFC (of course this is just a what if, and my personal opinion).<P ID="signature">______________
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> > The best ever was in the summers of 1999 and 2000 when CHR
>
> > wasn't almost all hip hop, but a good mix of pop, hip hop
> > and rock. I miss those days. There really isn't much "pop"
>
> > anymore to paste the rock and hip hop together. Its been
> > replaced with hip hop and alternative tracks smashed
> > together.
>
>
> It was a trend, Jeremy.... Which means next to nothing.
> Wait for the actual book before you jump to that conclusion.
>
>
> Oh wait, I forgot... You're just THE expert on WXSS, aren't
> you?
>
WIFC in the market I am in (Wausau, a small market, but not too small) has been doing outstanding constantly in ratings, on the top of the ratings. It has always been like that, and has always had a constant mix of Hip Hop, Rap, Rock, and Pop. It sounds good at that, and has ratings to proove it.
I also know that in Appleton, WIXX (WIFC's sister) is doing good in the ratings as well, and it is more rock based than WIFC is.
I think that it all depends on the area you are in, and how well the programmers acually program the station. Just my opinion, but if there were ever another CHR that pops up, it may crush WXSS into the ground if it were like WIFC (of course this is just a what if, and my personal opinion).<P ID="signature">______________
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ATyler
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> Sorry about the rant. I rarely rant but this really got to
> me.
Fair enough... I posted that last night after a LONG day, complete with a remote in 100 degree heat. I probably normally wouldn't have thrown the jab in there.
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WVZA / Marion - Carbondale, IL
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Weekends / Swing
KSLZ / St. Louis
WAKZ / Youngstown, OH
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> me.
Fair enough... I posted that last night after a LONG day, complete with a remote in 100 degree heat. I probably normally wouldn't have thrown the jab in there.
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WVZA / Marion - Carbondale, IL
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WAKZ / Youngstown, OH
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spongebag7
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> > Sorry about the rant. I rarely rant but this really got to
>
> > me.
>
>
> Fair enough... I posted that last night after a LONG day,
> complete with a remote in 100 degree heat. I probably
> normally wouldn't have thrown the jab in there.
>
Haven't been to Arizona in the summer, have you?
>
> > me.
>
>
> Fair enough... I posted that last night after a LONG day,
> complete with a remote in 100 degree heat. I probably
> normally wouldn't have thrown the jab in there.
>
Haven't been to Arizona in the summer, have you?
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