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WHAT WCBS-FM IS MISSING
- Thread starter RADIO TRUTH
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This seems to be something that is missing from radio and I would think the show is doing really well.
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BACKnUSSR
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haha...yeah right.....thats what it needs...amateur DJ's.....and no programming strategy...
There's nothing wrong with amateur deejays. Just have a style that fits your voice. If you don't have "boss jock" pipes, then don't try doing boss-jock radio. You'll sound doofy. :-\
http://youtube.com/watch?v=i8XT8UnIzBo
The Fox Newschannel did a national story on his show. He doesn't seem like an amateur to me.
The Fox Newschannel did a national story on his show. He doesn't seem like an amateur to me.
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adma
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Amateur or not, it's a rather "embalmed" tribute-act schtick. It's like saying Tiny Tim or the New Vaudeville Band represented something missing from popular music.
OK folks, this thread leads me to ask an important question:
What exactly do you feel is missing: the familiar personalities, or any jock showing any on-air personality at all?
What exactly do you feel is missing: the familiar personalities, or any jock showing any on-air personality at all?
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fang39
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Bill DeFelice said:
Connectedness to the music. Outside of the venerable Bob Shannon (and Pat St. John on Sundays), I don't hear it. As much as I enjoy his "rap," Broadway Bill Lee doesn't sound fluent on the rare occasions (H.O.F. segments) he talks about the music. Joe Causi often times sounds like a fish out of water. He was in 7th heaven last night because the CBS-FM "Hall of Fame" was honoring the 30th anniversary of the premiere of "Saturday Night Fever," because of his long association with disco music and its core artists. Ron Parker's nightly "Top 5 at 9" offers very little history behind the songs as had been done with previous countdowns (Norm N. Nite/Bobby Jay) on the station.
What we really need is WABC to return as Musicradio. We need more 57 Chevy's and JFK. If you think CBS -FM is bad, come to Tampa where half the stations run jockless and most of the others are VT'd. Only CBS radio here even tries to sound like personality radio
There are a number of issues here that I would like to address. First, in regard to Ricky, I did a little research. I went through my copies of Radio and Records and found that they did a full page story on him when he was on KOMA, Oklahoma City. He must have had quite an audience with KOMA's 50000 watt signal on 1520. It covers about 22 states, a good deal of Canada and Mexico at night. I also found that about 50 major newspapers did stories on Ricky's show including the following: Chicago Tribune, Baltimore Sun, Miami Herald, Tampa Tribune, Newark Star Ledger, Pittsburgh Post Gazette, Kansas Star, Fort Worth Star Telegram, San Diego Union Tribune and a bunch of others. He is no amateur. He seems to have no trouble getting publicity. He has gotten more positive publicity than any dj or oldies station including WCBS-FM. The next thing is whether you like him or hate him, he is addressing a need for personality radio, not to mention all of the 1955-1971 music that is gone forever from over-the-air radio. The fact that he has recreated WABC's audio chain and plays vintage commercials is also a nice touch. This is much more than that Mark Simone's weekend show on WABC does or will ever do. People complain about the lack of 50s and 60s music on the radio. Ricky's show is a place to get it. Quit complaining!!!!!!!!!!!!!! People complain about a lack of personality djs. Ricky seems to take personality radio pretty seriously. Quit complaining!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Both XM and Sirius are automated most of the time. Ricky's show is not run by a computer but, by a human being. Quit complaining!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Rather than complain, be happy that someone has addressed the needs of what is not
on the radio and support the show. One other thing, when you think about it, Ricky might have a very good thing going. Versus CBS Radio, XM or Sirius, who have very high overhead, Ricky's overhead must be pretty low. He can make a good deal of money without having to have millions of subscribers. While XM and Sirius may end up going out of business, merger or not, Ricky will still be around and obviously television and the press know it.
on the radio and support the show. One other thing, when you think about it, Ricky might have a very good thing going. Versus CBS Radio, XM or Sirius, who have very high overhead, Ricky's overhead must be pretty low. He can make a good deal of money without having to have millions of subscribers. While XM and Sirius may end up going out of business, merger or not, Ricky will still be around and obviously television and the press know it.
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BACKnUSSR
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RADIO TRUTH said:
William Hung got a lot of publicity on his album too.
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adma
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I can't say if it's William Hung level; more Tiny Tim or New Vaudeville Band level, in the sense of being an archaeological genre exercise. That is, there comes a moment when "olde tyme" done anew becomes more of an eccentric novelty or geek-obsession than something with universal appeal.
Sure, this reinflated Boss Radio sound might sound terrific, expert, sensitive to the source material, and worthy of a certain self-sustaining cult appeal (at least on a Web scale). But it affirms death as much as it affirms life.
Sure, this reinflated Boss Radio sound might sound terrific, expert, sensitive to the source material, and worthy of a certain self-sustaining cult appeal (at least on a Web scale). But it affirms death as much as it affirms life.
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Classic Puker
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As impressed as I am that Mr. Truth has "researched" the history of the show/personality in question 
, I am going to have to ask your indulgence, and just go with me, here (he "researched" it; I lived it):
Putting this show anywhere legitimate simply will not be feasible. I could explain why. I won't. It would necessarily involve speaking ill of someone, who I happen to know and like. But let's just say it will not work, and it is never going to happen. Leave it at that. And trust me (have I ever lied to you?).
Having said that, however, let me ask you the following, focusing only on the appropriateness of the programming and leaving any other issues aside: if you were going to recreate WABC faithfully, would you not use a jock who actually sounded like, in the day, he really could have worked for Rick Sklar (or Glenn Morgan, or even Sam Holman)?
, I am going to have to ask your indulgence, and just go with me, here (he "researched" it; I lived it):Putting this show anywhere legitimate simply will not be feasible. I could explain why. I won't. It would necessarily involve speaking ill of someone, who I happen to know and like. But let's just say it will not work, and it is never going to happen. Leave it at that. And trust me (have I ever lied to you?).
Having said that, however, let me ask you the following, focusing only on the appropriateness of the programming and leaving any other issues aside: if you were going to recreate WABC faithfully, would you not use a jock who actually sounded like, in the day, he really could have worked for Rick Sklar (or Glenn Morgan, or even Sam Holman)?
Addressing the above.....
Does it really matter what anyone who participates on a radio message board like this, thinks? Judging by some of the comments, it is unlikely that any subscribers are going to come from participants on this or any radio message board. This show is designed to have appeal to the average baby boomer radio listener who cannot ever be served by over-the-air radio ever again because of the demographics issue. What does matter is this.....Where local radio stations like WCBS-FM or KRTH or any local station can only make money from selling advertising in their local markets, this show and shows like it, can make money from subscribers all over the U. S. and all over the world. The fact that this show would not be applicable to be on a local, over-the-air station does not matter. Think about this, internet radio will soon be available in automobiles and subscription shows like this can benefit from that in every market in the world. Think about somebody who misses 50s and 60s music, listening to this show while driving around Manhattan rather than listening to WCBS-FM or listening to this show while driving on the Pacific Coast Highway rather than listening to KRTH. The possibilities are limitless and the technology makes it all possible. This show does not have to have big numbers in any market because it is marketing itself worldwide and everyone pays to listen. The person above who said "Sure, this reinflated Boss Radio sound might sound terrific, expert, sensitive to the source material, and worthy of a certain self-sustaining cult appeal (at least on a Web scale)." With the entire world as potential subscribers and probably, much lower operating costs than the CBS O & O's, XM or Sirius, a certain self-sustaining cult appeal on a Web Scale, with the whole world to market to, could be potentially huge. Also, a show like this can never have any competition from over-the-air radio because of the demographics issue. For all of the baby boomers who feel abandoned by all of the former oldies stations not playing 50s and 60s music anymore, such as WCBS-FM, this show is a place to get their fix of a wide variety of 50s and 60s music. As far as the comment above, "Having said that, however, let me ask you the following, focusing only on the appropriateness of the programming and leaving any other issues aside: if you were going to recreate WABC faithfully, would you not use a jock who actually sounded like, in the day, he really could have worked for Rick Sklar (or Glenn Morgan, or even Sam Holman)?".....If you consider that this show is marketing to the whole world, what would make you think that it would want to replicate WABC, from the mid 60s exactly? The whole world does not start and stop in New York. It would seem to make more sense to try to make this show representative of all mid 60s top forty radio, across the entire U. S., rather than trying to just sound like WABC. Basically, this show has a worldwide, targeted demographic to go after, with no real competition, unless you count XM's or Sirius's 50s and 60s automated programming. Going back to my last post, if this person has had a history of getting positive publicity from network and local television and newpapers, don't you think we will be seeing more promotional videos for this show on various internet video sites in the future? Because of technology, the playing field is getting more level so an independent show like this can find a niche and compete with major corporations and make significant money.
Does it really matter what anyone who participates on a radio message board like this, thinks? Judging by some of the comments, it is unlikely that any subscribers are going to come from participants on this or any radio message board. This show is designed to have appeal to the average baby boomer radio listener who cannot ever be served by over-the-air radio ever again because of the demographics issue. What does matter is this.....Where local radio stations like WCBS-FM or KRTH or any local station can only make money from selling advertising in their local markets, this show and shows like it, can make money from subscribers all over the U. S. and all over the world. The fact that this show would not be applicable to be on a local, over-the-air station does not matter. Think about this, internet radio will soon be available in automobiles and subscription shows like this can benefit from that in every market in the world. Think about somebody who misses 50s and 60s music, listening to this show while driving around Manhattan rather than listening to WCBS-FM or listening to this show while driving on the Pacific Coast Highway rather than listening to KRTH. The possibilities are limitless and the technology makes it all possible. This show does not have to have big numbers in any market because it is marketing itself worldwide and everyone pays to listen. The person above who said "Sure, this reinflated Boss Radio sound might sound terrific, expert, sensitive to the source material, and worthy of a certain self-sustaining cult appeal (at least on a Web scale)." With the entire world as potential subscribers and probably, much lower operating costs than the CBS O & O's, XM or Sirius, a certain self-sustaining cult appeal on a Web Scale, with the whole world to market to, could be potentially huge. Also, a show like this can never have any competition from over-the-air radio because of the demographics issue. For all of the baby boomers who feel abandoned by all of the former oldies stations not playing 50s and 60s music anymore, such as WCBS-FM, this show is a place to get their fix of a wide variety of 50s and 60s music. As far as the comment above, "Having said that, however, let me ask you the following, focusing only on the appropriateness of the programming and leaving any other issues aside: if you were going to recreate WABC faithfully, would you not use a jock who actually sounded like, in the day, he really could have worked for Rick Sklar (or Glenn Morgan, or even Sam Holman)?".....If you consider that this show is marketing to the whole world, what would make you think that it would want to replicate WABC, from the mid 60s exactly? The whole world does not start and stop in New York. It would seem to make more sense to try to make this show representative of all mid 60s top forty radio, across the entire U. S., rather than trying to just sound like WABC. Basically, this show has a worldwide, targeted demographic to go after, with no real competition, unless you count XM's or Sirius's 50s and 60s automated programming. Going back to my last post, if this person has had a history of getting positive publicity from network and local television and newpapers, don't you think we will be seeing more promotional videos for this show on various internet video sites in the future? Because of technology, the playing field is getting more level so an independent show like this can find a niche and compete with major corporations and make significant money.
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