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What will 1.5 million buy?

V

Varulven

A talk show host that will blame "Towel Heads" for the Oklahoma City bombing

A talk show host that confuses Davey Jones of The Monkees, one of the most visible faces of the 60s, with
Peter Noone of Herman's Hermits - someone who outsold the Beatles at one point in time

A talk show host who embarrasses himself by telling Diana Ross, one of the biggest names in Entertainment, that his favorite song by her is "Stoned Love", a song sung by Jean Terrell, sister of a famous boxer and new lead singer of The Supremes (they all sound the same to Howie, y'know)


Allegations that Howie was successfully sued for defaming a superior court judge
http://www.capecodtoday.com/blogs/i...6/24/state_rep_tells_howie_carr_you_re_a_lyin


Carr’s camp says the host will stay at WRKO until his contract ends on September 19.
http://www.radioink.com/HeadlineEntry.asp?hid=138528&pt=todaysnews

Boston Radio Watch
http://bostonradiowatch.com/


And while Carr will air opposite WRKO's struggling-to-take-off Tom Finneran for much of the morning drive, he's perceived as more formidable foe to WEEI's "Dennis and Callahan".
 
he apologized for towel heads--he assumed it was a muslim.
Davey Jones incident was just a brain (pass wind) but, yeah...HC's a talk host not an oldies DJ though.

I didn't know about Stoned Love.

How about a talk host that got 10 times the ratings AAR did in boston?
 
There are so many of these, aren't there?

Varulven said:
A talk show host that will blame "Towel Heads" for the Oklahoma City bombing

A talk show host that confuses Davey Jones of The Monkees, one of the most visible faces of the 60s, with
Peter Noone of Herman's Hermits - someone who outsold the Beatles at one point in time

A talk show host who embarrasses himself by telling Diana Ross, one of the biggest names in Entertainment, that his favorite song by her is "Stoned Love", a song sung by Jean Terrell, sister of a famous boxer and new lead singer of The Supremes (they all sound the same to Howie, y'know)


Allegations that Howie was successfully sued for defaming a superior court judge
http://www.capecodtoday.com/blogs/i...6/24/state_rep_tells_howie_carr_you_re_a_lyin


Carr’s camp says the host will stay at WRKO until his contract ends on September 19.
http://www.radioink.com/HeadlineEntry.asp?hid=138528&pt=todaysnews

Boston Radio Watch
http://bostonradiowatch.com/


And while Carr will air opposite WRKO's struggling-to-take-off Tom Finneran for much of the morning drive, he's perceived as more formidable foe to WEEI's "Dennis and Callahan".
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Raccoon, WMWM could get ten times the ratings AAR did in Boston, however even YOU belong to a group that is dedicated to saving it. Clear Channel gave 'em no promotion, terrible PSAs, horrid commercials, it was designed to fail, just like Rich Carberry wanted the Jay Diamond show to fail - as an example to say "See, it doesn't work" when they put every roadblock in front of it NOT to work.

Finneran is proving to be a joke because anyone with half a brain and backing can launch a show in this market. Carr and Severin have no real competition. This is so redundant - Telecommunications Act 1996 -

give us a free marketplace, watch the talent pour in. Carr and Severin can only survive in this bad climate and be the Kings of Nothing. They have ZERO competition.



How long do you think the masses would stage a "bring back Howie Carr tour" once he runs his course?

Think of how Jerry Williams was sent out to pasture unceremoniously.

It's a cruel business and it makes little sense, just dollars and cents.
 
Varulven said:
actually, Eli, they had more than a "few" hits - "Up The Ladder To The Roof", "Everybody's Got The Right To Love", "Floy Joy" - they have a distinction - along with AC/DC - of being probably the only supergroup to survive the defection of their lead singer.
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Black Sabbath... Ozzy.. then Dio... carry on.
 
Black Sabbath did trudge on as have Big Brother & The Holding Company, The Doors, Band Of Gypsys (Hendrix) and so many others.

But Sabbath never had the success Ozzy has while The Supremes were so successful Motown reigned them in because they were stepping on the toes of Diana Ross.

While Sabbath was an interesting experiment in lead vocalists how many people remember the Dio days, or the days with Ian Gillan? Gillan is always Deep Purple, more so than Evans (first lead singer who hit with "Hush")

And would you say "Deep Purple" even though their true fame came after the first lead singer left!

Gillan live at the Rainbow
http://allmusic.com/cg/amg.dll?p=amg&sql=10:axfrxq8dld6e

These and other important questions deserve to be answered when a radio station is shelling out
1.5 mill allegedly for a hack afternoon radio host now transplanted to mornings.
 
Varulven said:
actually, Eli, they had more than a "few" hits - "Up The Ladder To The Roof", "Everybody's Got The Right To Love", "Floy Joy" - they have a distinction - along with AC/DC - of being probably the only supergroup to survive the defection of their lead singer.
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Correction: Both Genesis and Van Halen went on to major success after changing lead singers. Genesis exceeded their previous performance, while Van Halen sold just about the same total number of CDs with each of their first two lead singers. It wasn't until the failed Gary Cherone experiment that Van Halen faltered. Let's also include Journey, who were moderately successful until changing lead singers. That lead singer change actually resulted in their elevation to supergroup status. Black Sabbath also saw sales increases after adding Ronnie James Dio to the mix in 1980. Although that success turned out to be short-lived. But then again...they are once again reaping that benefit as I type this right now.

It could be argued that Deep Purple also "survived" the defection of their lead singer. But categorizing them as a supergroup based upon their time with Rod Evans may be a bit premature.

Just letting you know that there are other examples than the Supremes, and AC/DC out there.
 
Van Halen is a good one, Neanderpaul - and among your favorite groups!

Good work there.

So among the 60s/70s stars The Supremes were the only group to really survive the
loss of a Diana Ross / Jim Morrison / Janis Joplin / Jimi Hendrix and be able to continue having hits.

Van Hagar is my fave version of Van Halen... but I always considered it the guitarist's group more than
the singer. Van Halen couldn't survive without the guitar, could they?
 
Varulven said:
Van Halen couldn't survive without the guitar, could they?
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Probably not. It'd be like Zeppelin without Page. And to a lesser degree Aerosmith without Perry & Whitford. Although Dufay and Crespo certainly played well...and there existed a lot more dysfunction in Aerosmith when Perry & Whitford left.

Your Supremes assertion is certainly valid, and illustrates the point.

It appears it's going to be VERY diffucult for WRKO to sustain without the face of the station.

It speaks volumes about Howie's character that he'd express the vitriol he has toward the station that's paid him so well for so long. I can understand the frustration with not having the extensions met. But, he just seems to be taking this personal. When, as we all know, this is just business. Radio stations exist long after their talent moves on.

...most of the time. Stern's defection to satellite certainly contradicts this notion. Perhaps Howie is/was that identity for WRKO?

I dunno. But as big a jerk I might find him to be personally, he's always been good at what he does, and WTKK made a smart business move to try to get him.

We'll watch and see how this breaks down. In any event, you can't buy this kind of marketing. People are now talking about two stations that they may not have been days ago.
 
1)Agreed, both stations get much more press than they deserve

2)Stern is the anomaly. Most stations give the walking papers before caving in to demands.
Methinks The Red Sox in the equation has a LOT to do with this - on both sides.
Howie doesn't like the intrusion of the Sox, the Sox don't like Howie being not-so-family friendly listening

3)I love the Dufay / Crespo version of Aerosmith - a lot more rocking and less bluesy - I love both
Aerosmiths, mind you, they both have something different to offer. ROCK IN A HARD PLACE doesn't get
the respect it deserves. Still remember Carter Alan interviewing the band with that release,
the first airplay for Tyler & Company after they were banned by Oedipus for a spell (who wasn't!?)

...and worked with Bonnie Bramlett in 1988 (Crespo was in her band).
Crespo played on a tribute to Joe Perry that Ava Electris sang on Anthology #9 (on Varulven, of course)
 
Varulven said:
1)Agreed, both stations get much more press than they deserve

2)Stern is the anomaly. Most stations give the walking papers before caving in to demands.
Methinks The Red Sox in the equation has a LOT to do with this - on both sides.
Howie doesn't like the intrusion of the Sox, the Sox don't like Howie being not-so-family friendly listening

3)I love the Dufay / Crespo version of Aerosmith - a lot more rocking and less bluesy - I love both
Aerosmiths, mind you, they both have something different to offer. ROCK IN A HARD PLACE doesn't get
the respect it deserves. Still remember Carter Alan interviewing the band with that release,
the first airplay for Tyler & Company after they were banned by Oedipus for a spell (who wasn't!?)

...and worked with Bonnie Bramlett in 1988 (Crespo was in her band).
Crespo played on a tribute to Joe Perry that Ava Electris sang on Anthology #9 (on Varulven, of course)
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Wasn't the song "When the Lightning Strikes" from the non-Joe Perry era of Aerosmith? Pretty good song that has virtually disappeared from Aerosmith history. Of course they never should have had the split to begin with....you have to wonder how it would have changed the course of certain performers careers if they hadn't.
 
NHRonin said:
Wasn't the song "When the Lightning Strikes" from the non-Joe Perry era of Aerosmith? Pretty good song that has virtually disappeared from Aerosmith history. Of course they never should have had the split to begin with....you have to wonder how it would have changed the course of certain performers careers if they hadn't.
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"Lightning Strikes" is an all-time Aerosmith classic IMHO...I believe I heard them do it in Sacramento in 2003 on the KISS co-headlining tour. I remember being VERY shocked. They didn't write it, but Whitford played on that track on the album. Perry was gone by then. And by the time the album came out, so was Whitford to the short-lived Whitford-St. Holmes band. They incidentally had a pretty good song called "Whiskey Woman" on their album. There were a few good tracks on RIAHP...Jailbait, Bitches Brew...both cool songs. Very underrated album.

I may be alone in this, but I like the Joe Perry Project albums. At the risk of name-dropping, I had Joe sign them all when he was in-studio promoting his solo CD a couple of years ago. Every once in a while...the job allows you to be a fan too.

...but we digress. Sorry mods.
 
As Mach Bell told me, he was singing onstage one night with the Joe Perry Project and all of a sudden Brad Whitford appeared, Joey Kramer appeared, Tom Hamilton, Steve Tyler...Mach said it was a tremendous moment for him being onstage with his heroes yet also knowing the Joe Perry Project had come to an end.

Let's face it, Tim Collins knew that the boys had to clean up and get back together. It was the only logical course. Kiss and make up.

but I know too much so I will stop here.

Yes, "LIGHTNING STRIKES" is a great song, a tacky video with the melon or whatever it is shattering, but like Joe Perry's BLACK VELVET PANTS two Aerosmith related videos that have pretty much disappeared too.

http://bostoncompilations.blogspot.com/


JOE PERRY PROJECT
THE MUSIC STILL DOES THE TALKING
http://www.allmusic.com/cg/amg.dll?p=amg&sql=10:0zfrxqlkldke


Review by Joe Viglione

Australia's Raven Records has released another important retrospective — a focus on guitarist Joe Perry's three solo albums and the three frontmen who put their voices on those discs. Ralph Mormon performed on Let the Music Do the Talking prior to his stint in Savoy Brown, and that may have been the better band for his bluesy voice.

MACH BELL
http://www.allmusic.com/cg/amg.dll?p=amg&sql=11:hnftxqegldhe~T1
 
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