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What will happen to WBAP after Citadel takes over?

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wbap247news

Which of the following (if any) do you think might happen once the takeover commences?

A) 100% Syndicated Programming?
B) Larry Dixon to afternoon drive?
C) Even more budget cuts
D) 1/2 of current news staff gone?
E) Midnight Radio Network to try and get on XM as well?
F) Bigger spot load?
G) Rush twice per day?
H) Barring newsroom employees from bringing dates up to the station?
I) Hang the mouse in effigy?
J) More local programming?
K) Give Hal more freedom to interact?
L) Less political talk?
M) More political talk?
N) A move to the left?
O) More advertising -billboards, newspapers, etc.?
P) Complete staff turnover?
Q) Absolutely no changes?
 
247news said:
Which of the following (if any) do you think might happen once the takeover commences?
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All liberal, all democratic...the voice of a new generation of Texans...

Push Limbaugh, Hannity, and that unbelievably annoying Levin off
the nearest cliff...

Turn Mark Davis inside out, and make him into a Nancy Pelosi
lovin' fool...

Ok, hell...I can dream can't I? ;D
 
Im hoping that larry dixon will get an airslot, as well as tossing gary macnamera as he isnt really producing even in overnights.
 
charles123 said:
What will happen to the Twister?
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Probably nothing.

Much like what has been happening with it up to now.
 
theshadow said:
247news said:
Which of the following (if any) do you think might happen once the takeover commences?
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All liberal, all democratic...the voice of a new generation of Texans...

Push Limbaugh, Hannity, and that unbelievably annoying Levin off
the nearest cliff...

Turn Mark Davis inside out, and make him into a Nancy Pelosi
lovin' fool...

Ok, hell...I can dream can't I? ;D
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> Other folk tried to dream with that rainbow colored liberal mindest... tell me, how did Air America do in the big flashy buckle of the Bible belt again?

> Levin? I'll get the hot dogs for that party
 
Expect less news,more spots,more conservative "beat up the democrats because we are sore losers in an election" spiel. Once upon a time there was a radio station that prided itself on news and a lot of it.
 
I think you'll see and hear much of the same things you do now. Who knows, maybe Citadel will take a hands off approach to a station like WBAP. Every other station in that cluster better look out.
 
I think WBAP will go to all News Station for North Texas like KRLD 1080 was in the 1970's-1990's. At night, WBAP will stay with the All NIGHT Trucking Radio like to old day's. I think WBAP would pull a 4.0 share if they go to all news all day. KRLD 1080 will ever go back to all news thinks to the CBS offices in New York. KRLD CBS does not want to pay a lot of hourly employees like the old days.

Dan The Man!!!
North Texas RADIO Man~~
 
I only wish you were right Dan,But Mark,Rush, and Sean are their audience and money makers.
 
dantheman said:
I think WBAP will go to all News Station for North Texas like KRLD 1080 was in the 1970's-1990's. At night, WBAP will stay with the All NIGHT Trucking Radio like to old day's.
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I believe KRLD’s slogan was “all news, all day” back then. An “all news” station implies that regardless of when you tune in, you will consistently hear news programming. For that to work, WBAP would have to drop the trucking show and do news 24/7.

I think WBAP could do very well if they used the KEWS approach.

R
 
KPLEXCOMPLEX said:
I only wish you were right Dan,But Mark,Rush, and Sean are their audience and money makers.
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Bingo.
You peeps are smoking crack if you think WBAP is going to go all news. They're one of, if not THE best biller in the market (power ratio-wise)...It would be career suicide for a GM or PD to kill that cow.

They call them cash cows for a reason. And the sooner some of you remember that there IS a buisness side to these equations, the better...

Don't get me wrong, I love the 'art' of radio...But I also realize that in the vast majority of stations you can't just do 'good' radio...you also have to draw enough ratings to pay the bills...
 
i wish SOMEONE would take the ALL NEWS format..
i was in Philly for Christmas week and got to hear the great KYW NewsRadio 1060...
reminded me of the good days of KRLD Dallas.
 
The arguement has been that market #5(DFW)needs an all news station,but you have the advertising agencies who claim to know it all, say that 18-35 will not listen to it. If thats the case why is your Philly station and WBBM in Chicago doing well? Answer DFW doesn't want to spend the money to create an all news station. They want the advertisers to dictate what programming should be,instead of creating good news programming for themselves ,that would make agencies beg to buy spots on.Again its called "the Basics" that have been forgotten.
 
The CBS Heritage all news operations date to the 1960's. KRLD didn't go news heavy until the very late 70's. KRLD also has suffered through several ownership changes in that time period. The other problem is content. Is there enough interesting news locally to warrant a full time newser? To that I say no. The TV folks have trouble filling the news dance card on a daily basis. WBAP and KRLD provide a useful service in the morning, and like it or not, KRLD's afternoon news product rivals anything heard on one of the more traditional CBS newsers. KRLD and WBAP pretty much can satisfy one's need to know at the top and bottom of every hour during the middle of the day, at night who really cares except for the emergency weather alerts. Besides, TV owns that territory. The 4 VHF TV's go into doppler envy when bad weather hits, look at a Neilsen overnight the morning after severe weather for proof.

I could never get into KEWS...if I remember correctly they relied quite a bit on non local content anyway. At least I was never impressed or thought of them as a "go to" station for information. I think there fondly remembered here because they were all news, but not because they were particularly good at it.
 
Some station could partner with WFAA 8.2, or TXCN, or CNN, or a combination of all three, and use them to supplement a format that's heavy on live, local coverage, and could run the audio of a local TV newscast during primetime (much like KRLD once did.) As long as you don't rely on one of these outside sources 100% (recall KYII/KUII and other inhabitants of 1190 in the early 90s who ran CNN relentlessly...pretty boring without the video.)

And I don't recall KEWS being too non-local...their reporters were always out reporting anything they could find in the area, even if it wasn't all that newsworthy. 24 hours a day is a LOT of time to fill, and they did as fine a job as anyone could have done.
 
KPLEXCOMPLEX said:
The arguement has been that market #5(DFW)needs an all news station,but you have the advertising agencies who claim to know it all, say that 18-35 will not listen to it. If thats the case why is your Philly station and WBBM in Chicago doing well? Answer DFW doesn't want to spend the money to create an all news station. They want the advertisers to dictate what programming should be,instead of creating good news programming for themselves ,that would make agencies beg to buy spots on.Again its called "the Basics" that have been forgotten.
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"Claim to know it all"? How about 'have mountains of data to back up what they claim"?

Have you ever seen the breakdown of KRLD or WBAP's audience. They're not as dead as James Brown or Saddam Hussein, but they're damn close...

And get real, advertisers don't dictate what programming should be. Rather, they tell the suits what will or won't probably sell...Then they make the decision, not the agencies. That's a little basic called 'capitalism', maybe you should read up on it... :D
 
Mike Shannon may be on to something. It would take a lot of resources to fill a 24 hour news hole. Partnering with a television station would provide additional resources, but it would require a full integration to make it work; i.e., reporters for TV filing for radio, Photog's making their raw tape available for soundbites, assignment editors broadening the flow of information to the radio effort.
Unfortunately, people in Kennedale don't care much about what goes on in Plano. People in Trophy Club aren't waiting to hear the latest developments from Desoto.
Also, it takes time to develop an all news station. What company would take the years of losses that would be incurred?
The biggest hurdle would be the people. There just aren't that many available with the skill-set to enterprise compelling local news. And sales people would have to understand that by nature, it's a high cume, low T.S.L. format.
Still, with a dozen capable reporters, anchors capable of doing long-form interviews and editors able to do quality and quantity, patient owners and investors, and a strong signal, it could work....
sr
 
It could.
And it just as well might not.

So why should an owner take the chance, blow untold millions, etc etc? Because a bunch of peeps on a message board think we NEED a all-news station?

And you think people don't care what happens in other cities? I'm not sure most people care what happens in their OWN city, unless it makes their taxes go up...Ever seen the turnout for your average suburban school board election? City Commissioners, etc?

What I think everybody is missing is that we've got at least 5 'talk' stations. That can go all-news-ish when called for...(War, tornados, Cowboys super bowl parades, etc) (Okay, that last one is a fantasy, but you know what I mean)...

The problem is can you really keep people around if there's no 'good' news to report?
People bitch about the Ticket not being 'real' sports talk...but it's funny how they get all hands on deck when a TO gets signed, a Campo gets fired, etc...They're a newsy-all-sports station when they need to be, and a entertaining guy talk station the rest of teh time...

That's what some of these other stations need to do...Not go all news for the sake of going all news, but have the capacity to ramp up and cover the big stories but remain compelling enough to listen to on the days when a yelling match between Laura Miller and John Wiley Price is the big story....
 
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