What would your ideal urban ac play?

[bucwhyl]

Mine would be a little something like this:

Jagged Edge
Next
Koffee Brown
Raheem Davaughn
Jill Scott
Dwele
Mary J Blige
TLC
Men at Large
Intro
Portrait
Alicia Keys
Erykah Badu
Remy Shand
Adina Howard
Faith Evans
Domino
Craig Mack
Brownstone
Bilal
Cooly's Hot Box
Zhane'

And the list goes on.. Catch my drift?....

 

[ShawtyBlack_ATL]

Late 80s/All 90s Hip-Hop
90s R&B/All R&B from 2000s

 

[science]

70's - 90's R&B Oldies /Old School 75%
Contemporary R&B 2000's 25%

 

[ShawtyBlack_ATL]

70's - 90's R&B Oldies /Old School 75%
Contemporary R&B 2000's 25%

That sounds like the same bland Urban AC nationwide. It's almost 2011 and old school hip-hop is still a major void on Urban and Urban AC stations.

 

[bucwhyl]

And old school hip hop should be considered urban, because urban ac demos grew up listening to it.

 

[urban]

And old school hip hop should be considered urban, because urban ac demos grew up listening to it.

WGIV plays a lot of old school hip hop. I can think of 3 mixshows right off the bat on Thursday, Friday and Saturday nights. It's refreshing to hear. And the songs that are played are not the ones that typically get play on your more traditional UACs (ie; Sugarhill Gang and Kurtis Blow). There's a heavy emphasis on the mid '80s through the '90s.

 

[bucwhyl]

Do WGIV stream? And I meant to say that old school hip hop should be considered as urban ac.

 

[science]

70's - 90's R&B Oldies /Old School 75%
Contemporary R&B 2000's 25%

That sounds like the same bland Urban AC nationwide. It's almost 2011 and old school hip-hop is still a major void on Urban and Urban AC stations.

Bland? I must be the Old Dude in this thread, but it's just my humble opinion. Most Urban AC's I hear lean more late 80's, 90's and contemporary R&B. Makes since to me, Hip-Hop stations should blend in the old-school hip-hop instead of Urban AC. Otherwise I see Urban AC's going the way mainstream urbans did in the mid to late nineties evolving into hip-hop stations. But thats just my opinion. ;D

 

[Scholarm1111]

http://www.wgiv.net/default.asp?pid=16711

 

[scanman1809]

70's - 90's R&B Oldies /Old School 75%
Contemporary R&B 2000's 25%

That sounds like the same bland Urban AC nationwide. It's almost 2011 and old school hip-hop is still a major void on Urban and Urban AC stations.

Bland? I must be the Old Dude in this thread, but it's just my humble opinion. Most Urban AC's I hear lean more late 80's, 90's and contemporary R&B. Makes since to me, Hip-Hop stations should blend in the old-school hip-hop instead of Urban AC. Otherwise I see Urban AC's going the way mainstream urbans did in the mid to late nineties evolving into hip-hop stations. But thats just my opinion. ;D

Science, I agree with you. Hip Hop is total different genre and it needs to remain on Hip-Hop stations only. Hip-Hop on Urban AC stations will only hurt that format. If Urban AC stations continue to air more hip hop music, then I wouldn't be surprise if corporate programmers will come to the conclusion that Urban and Urban AC have similar sounds and merge the two formats into one. Therefore, the result will be many markets containing only one urban station, playing a little bit of everything, setting urban radio back 25 or 30 years. I believe Urban and Urban AC need to have distinct sounds to keep them both alive.

 

[AM FM listener]

Science, I agree with you. Hip Hop is total different genre and it needs to remain on Hip-Hop stations only. Hip-Hop on Urban AC stations will only hurt that format. If Urban AC stations continue to air more hip hop music, then I wouldn't be surprise if corporate programmers will come to the conclusion that Urban and Urban AC have similar sounds and merge the two formats into one. Therefore, the result will be many markets containing only one urban station, playing a little bit of everything, setting urban radio back 25 or 30 years. I believe Urban and Urban AC need to have distinct sounds to keep them both alive.

What may happen instead is that Urban Radio will splinter into multiple overlapping formats: new hip-hop, hip-hop and R&B, new R&B, hip-hop oldies, old school, classic soul, etc. This is what happened to Rock Radio. Don't know if that would be a good thing or a bad thing.

 

[DJboutit3]

Early 70s to 2002 & a few I mean few newer songs rap hiphop r&b not wack crap

 

[kilamanjero]

Science, I agree with you. Hip Hop is total different genre and it needs to remain on Hip-Hop stations only. Hip-Hop on Urban AC stations will only hurt that format. If Urban AC stations continue to air more hip hop music, then I wouldn't be surprise if corporate programmers will come to the conclusion that Urban and Urban AC have similar sounds and merge the two formats into one. Therefore, the result will be many markets containing only one urban station, playing a little bit of everything, setting urban radio back 25 or 30 years. I believe Urban and Urban AC need to have distinct sounds to keep them both alive.

What may happen instead is that Urban Radio will splinter into multiple overlapping formats: new hip-hop, hip-hop and R&B, new R&B, hip-hop oldies, old school, classic soul, etc. This is what happened to Rock Radio. Don't know if that would be a good thing or a bad thing.

Sounds like a bad thing. Urban radio is now dysfunctional now because in a number of markets there is a huge void of music that ignored. This is because the splintering of the format. The few markets that do have some overlap to cover this void either has a long time heritage full-service urban that will play some of this music or multiple urban stations covering various ranges of the format.

 

[Nate Wesley]

And old school hip hop should be considered urban, because urban ac demos grew up listening to it.

If you're talking about the everyday playlist, I'm not 100% on that. LL's "I Need Love" would probably fit, while Ice-T's "Colors" easily wouldn't. You'd have to choose songs really carefully so you wouldn't cause a predictable preset push.

But if you're using and promoting the classic hip-hop for a specialty show (say, Saturday mornings) or a daily lunchtime mix, I'm 100% with you. These are easy ways your local Kiss, Magic/Majic, Foxy, etc. can diversify itself without diluting what the station is about: Catering to women 25 & up. Even with these you've got to put some thought into what you play.

 

[bucwhyl]

So what everybody is saying is old school hip hop is S.O.L. when it comes to its place on radio. I think radio was better when you could hear "The Quietstorm" and "The Thunderstorm" on the same station. When the music was dayparted. Before urban radio was split.

 

[Nate Wesley]

So what everybody is saying is old school hip hop is S.O.L. when it comes to its place on radio. I think radio was better when you could hear "The Quietstorm" and "The Thunderstorm" on the same station. When the music was dayparted. Before urban radio was split.

I don't think there's enough demand for a solely 'classic hip-hop' station on the radio other than an cross-promoted HDRadio subchannel.

 

[kilamanjero]

So what everybody is saying is old school hip hop is S.O.L. when it comes to its place on radio. I think radio was better when you could hear "The Quietstorm" and "The Thunderstorm" on the same station. When the music was dayparted. Before urban radio was split.

I agree 100%.

 

[ShawtyBlack_ATL]

So what everybody is saying is old school hip hop is S.O.L. when it comes to its place on radio. I think radio was better when you could hear "The Quietstorm" and "The Thunderstorm" on the same station. When the music was dayparted. Before urban radio was split.

I don't think there's enough demand for a solely 'classic hip-hop' station on the radio other than an cross-promoted HDRadio subchannel.

92.7/99.3 THE BEAT is a Classic Hip-Hop station in Phoenix,AZ www.azthebeat.com When Im in the club and the DJ spins old school hip-hop the crowd goes crazy. I guess because you can't hear those hits on the radio which is sad considering this is 2010. Todays Urban AC is fulled with old R&B along with current R&B fromUsher, Fantasia and Beyonce. The same current R&B Urbans are playing with current hip-hop. Some Urbans play old school hip during the 12pm midday mixes. IMO, Urban AC needs a major overhaul.

 

[Scholarm1111]

I also liked it better back when stations played were dayparted and/or played a mix of music styles during the day.

 

[bucwhyl]

I totally agree Shawty. That was the point of this post.