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Is there something I'm missing? Look at all the posts about everything BUT Seattle radio.

- Which TV newscaster to do it with?
- Blogs and opinions about the woman protestor outside Bush's Ranch?
- Left-wing whackjobs?
- Canadian border crossing rules?

Maybe I'm too naive, but I kind of expect to read and discuss Seattle radio on this board. This place is teetering on implosion with all the religion and political viewpoints on here.

Is this board going to turn into the hell-hole that is All Access Net Talk?

Is it too much to ask for to discuss (GULP!) Seattle radio in here?
 
> Is there something I'm missing? Look at all the posts about
> everything BUT Seattle radio.
>
> - Which TV newscaster to do it with?
> - Blogs and opinions about the woman protestor outside
> Bush's Ranch?
> - Left-wing whackjobs?
> - Canadian border crossing rules?
>
> Maybe I'm too naive, but I kind of expect to read and
> discuss Seattle radio on this board. This place is
> teetering on implosion with all the religion and political
> viewpoints on here.
>
> Is this board going to turn into the hell-hole that is All
> Access Net Talk?
>
> Is it too much to ask for to discuss (GULP!) Seattle radio
> in here?


Add "crying about lack of board content and not proposing anything myself" to your list there, tough guy.
 
> Add "crying about lack of board content and not proposing
> anything myself" to your list there, tough guy.

You want board content, Cupcake? Turn on your radio and hear Lori Bradley doing the midday show on KMPS. Where are the conspiracy theorists on this?

How about Jack being number one 25 to 54 in last month's extraps? Nobody wants to talk about that? Or does anyone here get (literally or figuratively) the extraps?

Or how about the talk about Andy Savage going out of market? Extra points if anyone knows which market(s) being discussed.

As said in the past, I don't bring every single thing I know to this board. Because -- A) I get the MENSA-type replies from you, or B) few people on this board actually work in radio.
 
> > Add "crying about lack of board content and not proposing
> > anything myself" to your list there, tough guy.
>
> You want board content, Cupcake? Turn on your radio and
> hear Lori Bradley doing the midday show on KMPS. Where are
> the conspiracy theorists on this?
>
> How about Jack being number one 25 to 54 in last month's
> extraps? Nobody wants to talk about that? Or does anyone
> here get (literally or figuratively) the extraps?
>
> Or how about the talk about Andy Savage going out of market?
> Extra points if anyone knows which market(s) being
> discussed.
>
> As said in the past, I don't bring every single thing I know
> to this board. Because -- A) I get the MENSA-type replies
> from you, or B) few people on this board actually work in
> radio.

Well YOU'RE a LOT of help!

If you don't contribute, don't bitch. Until then, you're no better than anyone else up here. Know something BIG in the biz we don't? New format on the horizon? Or at least MAJOR shifts? THEN SAY IT.

It's no secret JACK is getting popular. I don't listen to KMPS much and no matter you've heard of Lori Bradley and the sinister world domination plan behind that perky voice on Art Bell, democracy will still reign. I promise you that.

And Andy Savage is leaving? STOP THE PRESSES!! When you've been fired and every other possible morning jock slot in Seattle from KNDD to KCIS has been filled by jocks/announcers under longer term contracts than the serverance from Infinity will hold out for, wouldn't YOU be leaving? I'm not a huge Andy Savage fan, but anyone can do the math here.

Did you know KEXP is going to be the first radio station making it's audio available on the wireless web?

http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/artsentertainment/2002438887_kexp13.html

They are moving in a direction at the speed of today's technology which I think will one day soon overtake HD and even satellite radio. Why listen to just the uninventive formula stuff we hear on most commercial local radio when we can find our own mix and our own kind of radio anywhere on the planet. Or webcast our own mix of programming to anyone anywhere and find listeners and kindred spirits?

They also got a go from the FCC to increase power from 3,300 watts to 4,700 watts (From Northwest Broadcasters):

http://members.shaw.ca/nwbroadcasters/recentnews.htm

Not to mention their now famous podcasts.

These been sunny days lately at 90.3 MHz.

Not bad for a bunch of snotty kids making play radio, huh?

Speaking of HD-what about Seattle HD radio? When are they going to start making use of those sub-channels and hiring talent for them? What kind of formats can we hear on KBKS 2,3, etc.?

Oh, never mind. Your total is $21.08. Would you like fries with that?










>
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> > > Add "crying about lack of board content and not
> proposing
> > > anything myself" to your list there, tough guy.
> >
> > You want board content, Cupcake? Turn on your radio and
> > hear Lori Bradley doing the midday show on KMPS. Where
> are
> > the conspiracy theorists on this?
> >
> > How about Jack being number one 25 to 54 in last month's
> > extraps? Nobody wants to talk about that? Or does anyone
>
> > here get (literally or figuratively) the extraps?
> >
> > Or how about the talk about Andy Savage going out of
> market?
> > Extra points if anyone knows which market(s) being
> > discussed.
> >
> > As said in the past, I don't bring every single thing I
> know
> > to this board. Because -- A) I get the MENSA-type replies
>
> > from you, or B) few people on this board actually work in
> > radio.
>
> Well YOU'RE a LOT of help!
>
> If you don't contribute, don't bitch. Until then, you're no
> better than anyone else up here. Know something BIG in the
> biz we don't? New format on the horizon? Or at least MAJOR
> shifts? THEN SAY IT.
>
> It's no secret JACK is getting popular. I don't listen to
> KMPS much and no matter you've heard of Lori Bradley and the
> sinister world domination plan behind that perky voice on
> Art Bell, democracy will still reign. I promise you that.
>
> And Andy Savage is leaving? STOP THE PRESSES!! When you've
> been fired and every other possible morning jock slot in
> Seattle from KNDD to KCIS has been filled by
> jocks/announcers under longer term contracts than the
> serverance from Infinity will hold out for, wouldn't YOU be
> leaving? I'm not a huge Andy Savage fan, but anyone can do
> the math here.
>
> Did you know KEXP is going to be the first radio station
> making it's audio available on the wireless web?
>
http://seattletime> s.nwsource.com/html/artsentertainment/2002438887_kexp13.html
>
>
> They are moving in a direction at the speed of today's
> technology which I think will one day soon overtake HD and
> even satellite radio. Why listen to just the uninventive
> formula stuff we hear on most commercial local radio when we
> can find our own mix and our own kind of radio anywhere on
> the planet. Or webcast our own mix of programming to anyone
> anywhere and find listeners and kindred spirits?
>
> They also got a go from the FCC to increase power from 3,300
> watts to 4,700 watts (From Northwest Broadcasters):
>
> http://members.shaw.ca/nwbroadcasters/recentnews.htm
>
> Not to mention their now famous podcasts.
>
> These been sunny days lately at 90.3 MHz.
>
> Not bad for a bunch of snotty kids making play radio, huh?
>
> Speaking of HD-what about Seattle HD radio? When are they
> going to start making use of those sub-channels and hiring
> talent for them? What kind of formats can we hear on KBKS
> 2,3, etc.?
>
> Oh, never mind. Your total is $21.08. Would you like fries
> with that?
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> In regards to Savage I would have to assume he may be a sacrificial morsel on KUFO Portland after Stern leaves.After all he is getting paid by Infinity and he might like to have one last chance in the Northwest.Is that what you are hearing AQH?????
>
>
> >
>
 
HERE's what's going on here...

<td bgcolor="khaki">AQH posted:
>>> I don't bring every single thing I know to this board....
<font color="firebrick">..especially every single thing AQH DOESN'T know - and THAT won't hurt him for certain...
=============================================<font color="red"><font size="4">
Ah...Savory Delisss-i-ous Cupcakes!
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<font color="indigo"><font size="3">"Nothing is foolproof - to a sufficiently talented fool"
 
> Well YOU'RE a LOT of help!
>
> If you don't contribute, don't bitch. Until then, you're no
> better than anyone else up here. Know something BIG in the
> biz we don't? New format on the horizon? Or at least MAJOR
> shifts? THEN SAY IT.

No, I will not say everything I know. There is no way that I am going to rush to this group to break some story and sacrifice my sources. It's called discipline.


> It's no secret JACK is getting popular. I don't listen to
> KMPS much and no matter you've heard of Lori Bradley and the
> sinister world domination plan behind that perky voice on
> Art Bell, democracy will still reign. I promise you that.

I have no idea what you mean by that last paragraph.



> And Andy Savage is leaving? STOP THE PRESSES!! When you've
> been fired and every other possible morning jock slot in
> Seattle from KNDD to KCIS has been filled by
> jocks/announcers under longer term contracts than the
> serverance from Infinity will hold out for, wouldn't YOU be
> leaving? I'm not a huge Andy Savage fan, but anyone can do
> the math here.

It's not the likelihood that Savage is gone from Seattle, the point is that people want to know where he's going to (yes, Minneapolis and Portland are two of the possibilities).


> Did you know KEXP is going to be the first radio station
> making it's audio available on the wireless web?
>
http://seattletime> s.nwsource.com/html/artsentertainment/2002438887_kexp13.html

Good stuff! Why are we talking about Canadian border crossings over that?


> They are moving in a direction at the speed of today's
> technology which I think will one day soon overtake HD and
> even satellite radio. Why listen to just the uninventive
> formula stuff we hear on most commercial local radio when we
> can find our own mix and our own kind of radio anywhere on
> the planet. Or webcast our own mix of programming to anyone
> anywhere and find listeners and kindred spirits?

Well, now we are back to what people tell Arbitron what they like. But, yes, commercial radio is very re-active to things. They have the dough to do it (listener supported, including Paul Allen). Kudos to them for doing it. But understand that once the commercial boys start doing things like that, they will get credit for it before some relatively unknown station (to the entire Seattle radio market) such as KEXP.


> They also got a go from the FCC to increase power from 3,300
> watts to 4,700 watts (From Northwest Broadcasters):
>
> http://members.shaw.ca/nwbroadcasters/recentnews.htm

Not too significant, given their other factors (height, tower location, etc.).


> Not to mention their now famous podcasts.

Everybody is on that bandwagon now. See the second-previous paragraph.

> These been sunny days lately at 90.3 MHz.
>
> Not bad for a bunch of snotty kids making play radio, huh?

They are smart and get good financial backing from outside sources.


> Speaking of HD-what about Seattle HD radio? When are they
> going to start making use of those sub-channels and hiring
> talent for them? What kind of formats can we hear on KBKS
> 2,3, etc.?

Subcarriers sometimes take away from the main channel signals. Subcarriers are also being used for the Arbitron PPM projects. PPM isn't here in Seattle yet, but it's only a matter of time before it will.

General Managers are leery on spending the dough for things like HD, even simple online streaming, unless there's some dough in it. Infinity, a company that used to be headed by a guy who was dead-set against internet streaming, is now making NTR on its internet streams on its talk properties. Probably not too far around the corner for the music stations, but first things first.
 
> > In regards to Savage I would have to assume he may be a
> sacrificial morsel on KUFO Portland after Stern leaves.After
> all he is getting paid by Infinity and he might like to have
> one last chance in the Northwest.Is that what you are
> hearing AQH?????

Stern's lame-duck status is something that is played into the equation for some markets, including Portland. There are plenty of managers out there figuring out what to do, whether to go with Carolla or Roth, or get someone like Savage.

Plenty of positioning right now going on in the background, but nothing firm yet.
 
Re: HERE's what's going on here...

I would reply to you, but Preston is on vacation this week, and I've got stuff to do.
 
>
> No, I will not say everything I know. There is no way that
> I am going to rush to this group to break some story and
> sacrifice my sources. It's called discipline.
>

You use the force wisely, my son. Soon the entire radio world will bow to your supremecy.... **koooooooough......kooooooooooooough**
 
> > Well YOU'RE a LOT of help!
> >
> > If you don't contribute, don't bitch. Until then, you're
> no
> > better than anyone else up here. Know something BIG in the
>
> > biz we don't? New format on the horizon? Or at least MAJOR
>
> > shifts? THEN SAY IT.
>
> No, I will not say everything I know. There is no way that
> I am going to rush to this group to break some story and
> sacrifice my sources. It's called discipline.

Who said you had to give away your sources? You can be like IKnowItAll and just post it.

Like I said, if you don't contribute, don't bitch.
>
>
> > It's no secret JACK is getting popular. I don't listen to
> > KMPS much and no matter you've heard of Lori Bradley and
> the
> > sinister world domination plan behind that perky voice on
> > Art Bell, democracy will still reign. I promise you that.
>
> I have no idea what you mean by that last paragraph.

1. JACK is getting popular.
2. You say conspiracy theorists are buzzing about Lori Bradley
>


>
>
> > And Andy Savage is leaving? STOP THE PRESSES!! When you've
>
> > been fired and every other possible morning jock slot in
> > Seattle from KNDD to KCIS has been filled by
> > jocks/announcers under longer term contracts than the
> > serverance from Infinity will hold out for, wouldn't YOU
> be
> > leaving? I'm not a huge Andy Savage fan, but anyone can do
>
> > the math here.
>
> It's not the likelihood that Savage is gone from Seattle,
> the point is that people want to know where he's going to
> (yes, Minneapolis and Portland are two of the
> possibilities).

Either way whether he physically leaves Seattle or does his show remotely, you're still not going to hear him here.
>
>
> > Did you know KEXP is going to be the first radio station
> > making it's audio available on the wireless web?
> >
> http://seattletime>
> s.nwsource.com/html/artsentertainment/2002438887_kexp13.html
>
>
> Good stuff! Why are we talking about Canadian border
> crossings over that?


Because it sucks the Feds closed that pot tunnel.
>
>
> > They are moving in a direction at the speed of today's
> > technology which I think will one day soon overtake HD and
>
> > even satellite radio. Why listen to just the uninventive
> > formula stuff we hear on most commercial local radio when
> we
> > can find our own mix and our own kind of radio anywhere on
>
> > the planet. Or webcast our own mix of programming to
> anyone
> > anywhere and find listeners and kindred spirits?
>
> Well, now we are back to what people tell Arbitron what they
> like. But, yes, commercial radio is very re-active to
> things. They have the dough to do it (listener supported,
> including Paul Allen). Kudos to them for doing it. But
> understand that once the commercial boys start doing things
> like that, they will get credit for it before some
> relatively unknown station (to the entire Seattle radio
> market) such as KEXP.

History don't work that way. Nice try though.
>
>
> > They also got a go from the FCC to increase power from
> 3,300
> > watts to 4,700 watts (From Northwest Broadcasters):
> >
> > http://members.shaw.ca/nwbroadcasters/recentnews.htm
>
> Not too significant, given their other factors (height,
> tower location, etc.)

But it might be enough to finally get their signal as far north as Conway
>
>
> > Not to mention their now famous podcasts.
>
> Everybody is on that bandwagon now. See the second-previous
> paragraph.
>
> > These been sunny days lately at 90.3 MHz.
> >
> > Not bad for a bunch of snotty kids making play radio, huh?
>
>
> They are smart and get good financial backing from outside
> sources.

..yes, how do ya like 'em now?
>
>
> > Speaking of HD-what about Seattle HD radio? When are they
> > going to start making use of those sub-channels and hiring
>
> > talent for them? What kind of formats can we hear on KBKS
> > 2,3, etc.?
>
> Subcarriers sometimes take away from the main channel
> signals. Subcarriers are also being used for the Arbitron
> PPM projects. PPM isn't here in Seattle yet, but it's only
> a matter of time before it will.
>
> General Managers are leery on spending the dough for things
> like HD, even simple online streaming, unless there's some
> dough in it. Infinity, a company that used to be headed by
> a guy who was dead-set against internet streaming, is now
> making NTR on its internet streams on its talk properties.
> Probably not too far around the corner for the music
> stations, but first things first.

Good God! If they pulled that with FM Stereo in the early '60s, we'd still be listening to CHR on AM! Technical improvements rarely make money. They just are. They keep the station relevant, especially these days with so much other technology we could be listening to instead of conventional radio. Don't tell me you're just going to put HD radio on the air right now and offer nothing better for programming than what is on the main analog signal? If that's the case, then HD radio is headed for the same heap as AM Stereo or FM Quad.

Like one of KBKS's promos for their HD signal.."Radio that sounds like a CD!" My buddy said "But wouldn't that still sound like...a radio?"
>
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> Who said you had to give away your sources? You can be like
> IKnowItAll and just post it.
>
> Like I said, if you don't contribute, don't bitch.

My life does not revolve around this board. I do not choose to be like IKnowItAll because it does not get me, nor anyone else on this board, anywhere.

I 'bitch' only when there are things not about Seattle Radio about on here. Let's look at your latest contribution, Lar. Seattle TV newscaster fantasies? I think Erica Farber should take a look at you for sure.

> 1. JACK is getting popular.
Exactly. And we're talking about TV newscaster fantasies and bashing politics.

> 2. You say conspiracy theorists are buzzing about Lori
> Bradley
Never said that -- I asked where they are. Here you have the number one station, KMPS, and their midday person is gone, replaced by a person who did middays elsewhere in Seattle and no one is wondering about that?! Yet, there's a string about The Buzz, with their meager ratings, and there's more talk about that.


> Either way whether he physically leaves Seattle or does his
> show remotely, you're still not going to hear him here.

True.


> Because it sucks the Feds closed that pot tunnel.

Oh yeah, I almost forgot, this board is about Seattle Radio and whatever Larry wants to talk about.


>
> History don't work that way. Nice try though.

Really? Care to prove me wrong?

> But it might be enough to finally get their signal as far
> north as Conway

But they have shown that they don't completely focus in on just Seattle. So, what is the big deal on the power increase?



> ..yes, how do ya like 'em now?

Show me how they have affected Seattle radio directly through numbers, and I'll answer that question.


> Good God! If they pulled that with FM Stereo in the early
> '60s, we'd still be listening to CHR on AM! Technical
> improvements rarely make money. They just are. They keep the
> station relevant, especially these days with so much other
> technology we could be listening to instead of conventional
> radio. Don't tell me you're just going to put HD radio on
> the air right now and offer nothing better for programming
> than what is on the main analog signal? If that's the case,
> then HD radio is headed for the same heap as AM Stereo or FM
> Quad.

Classic Larry here, focusing in on the past.

Fact of the matter is that there are many other alternatives out there, such as satellite, internet and iPods with much cleaner audio. Radio has been beaten to the punch, the alternatives are already out there. Your 60s analogy is moot.
 
> > Who said you had to give away your sources? You can be
> like
> > IKnowItAll and just post it.
> >
> > Like I said, if you don't contribute, don't bitch.
>
> My life does not revolve around this board. I do not choose
> to be like IKnowItAll because it does not get me, nor anyone
> else on this board, anywhere.

Well then don't whine about lack of water here during a dry spell. This board is like the news. Not enough real stories and you end up with more filler.
>
> I 'bitch' only when there are things not about Seattle Radio
> about on here. Let's look at your latest contribution, Lar.
> Seattle TV newscaster fantasies? I think Erica Farber
> should take a look at you for sure.

She should. I'd make a much better selling novel than you.

And that wasn't my latest contribution, but it was about Seattle broadcasting (Seattle TV fans come here too, it's not JUST about Seattle radio here) The Stranger published an article, I posted it. Turns out a lot of us have favorite newscaster fantasies.
>
> > 1. JACK is getting popular.
> Exactly. And we're talking about TV newscaster fantasies
> and bashing politics.

Now what is JACK doing to really make it FUN to listen to?
>
> > 2. You say conspiracy theorists are buzzing about Lori
> > Bradley
> Never said that -- I asked where they are.

They're tuned in to 570 kHz every night.

Here you have
> the number one station, KMPS, and their midday person is
> gone, replaced by a person who did middays elsewhere in
> Seattle and no one is wondering about that?!

Ummm....yeah. Jock gets replaced by another jock who worked elsewhere in the market. KMPS may be big. Good for 'em and congrats Lori. But not everybody listens to country.

Yet, there's a
> string about The Buzz, with their meager ratings, and
> there's more talk about that.

The Buzz is a hot station-always has been.
>
>
> > Either way whether he physically leaves Seattle or does
> his
> > show remotely, you're still not going to hear him here.
>
> True.
>
>
> > Because it sucks the Feds closed that pot tunnel.
>
> Oh yeah, I almost forgot, this board is about Seattle Radio
> and whatever Larry wants to talk about.

You're the one who brought up the non-Seattle radio related issue of Canadian border crossings. Not me. Next?
>
>
> >
> > History don't work that way. Nice try though.
>
> Really? Care to prove me wrong?

It's already in the papers. Whenever Infinity, Entercom, Sandusky, etc. launches it's own web radio feeds for wireless phones in Seattle, they will not get the credit if they were not the first. KEXP will be the first while the bean counters at the conglomerates will still bicker about making the lousiest possible use of those HD sub channels.
>
> > But it might be enough to finally get their signal as far
> > north as Conway
>
> But they have shown that they don't completely focus in on
> just Seattle. So, what is the big deal on the power
> increase?

If KMPS went back to 100,000 watts, would YOU remark on it's impact?
>
>
>
> > ..yes, how do ya like 'em now?
>
> Show me how they have affected Seattle radio directly
> through numbers, and I'll answer that question.

KEXP doesn't need numbers, it has people.
>
>
> > Good God! If they pulled that with FM Stereo in the early
> > '60s, we'd still be listening to CHR on AM! Technical
> > improvements rarely make money. They just are. They keep
> the
> > station relevant, especially these days with so much other
>
> > technology we could be listening to instead of
> conventional
> > radio. Don't tell me you're just going to put HD radio on
> > the air right now and offer nothing better for programming
>
> > than what is on the main analog signal? If that's the
> case,
> > then HD radio is headed for the same heap as AM Stereo or
> FM
> > Quad.
>
> Classic Larry here, focusing in on the past.

To know where you're going, ya gotta know where you've been...
>
> Fact of the matter is that there are many other alternatives
> out there, such as satellite, internet and iPods with much
> cleaner audio. Radio has been beaten to the punch, the
> alternatives are already out there.

Yes, so don't wear any crowns as the radio industry continues it's slow painful demise into obsolescence.

>Your 60s analogy is moot.

When FM stereo came to be, all you had to do was buy a new FM Stereo radio. The stations themselves weren't trying to milk it other than mentioning that they were in stereo. HD is supposed to be the future of terrestrial radio, but the GMs, as you say, won't do anything to put money into it until they can find some way to make instant big cash on it. Do you think people will PAY for the same kind of radio they get now?


>
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</P><P ID="edit"><FONT class="small">Edited by TheOriginalLarry on 08/17/05 08:56 AM.</FONT></P>
 
> >
> > No, I will not say everything I know. There is no way
> that
> > I am going to rush to this group to break some story and
> > sacrifice my sources. It's called discipline.
> >
>
> You use the force wisely, my son. Soon the entire radio
> world will bow to your supremecy....
> **koooooooough......kooooooooooooough**
>
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