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What's going on with the KJR trimulcast?

Okay, that's pretty neat. So it's 100% automatic, no user input required?

😀

By the way, since 950 KJR is going straight to genric FOX Sports programming (or possibly one of those betting networks), I question if their ratings could trench out around 0.9, considering the whole discussion about callsigns and the fact that sports is about as limited in audience scope as Country or Rap seems to be?
If you'd like to see what a PPM meter looks like, go to the Phoenix forum, and the thread "Wearable PPM...your choice". It's the first pic Dr. Akbar posted...and not the fez hat! Although that would make for an interesting option.
 
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Depends on the syndicated shows and the paid programming around it. As mentioned with ZantennaG1; group sales teams sell demo reach across their market group, and certainly not via 6+ ratings.

If there is still accrued debt on the station, it needs to earn it's keep. Paid and syndicated programming is about the only viable options for AM stations these days.

Again; 6+ numbers are meaningless.

I wouldn't make that bet. KIXI is a money loser.
So you think KIXI is losing money for Hubbard? If that's the case, are they keeping it as is, simply because there isn't any other programming option. Maybe they would be better off trying to sell it to an Asian or religious broadcaster. For me, it is the only listenable Seattle AM left. It has the distinction of being the last Adult Standards radio station in a Top 20 market.
 
If you'd to see what a PPM meter looks like, go to the Phoenix forum, and the thread "Wearable PPM...your choice". It's the first pic Dr. Akbar posted...and not the fez hat! Although that would make for an interesting option.
Imagining a fez-hat with a microphone in it at the moment, LOL. Thanks for redirecting me to the right spot.
 
So you think KIXI is losing money for Hubbard? If that's the case, are they keeping it as is, simply because there isn't any other programming option. Maybe they would be better off trying to sell it to an Asian or religious broadcaster. For me, it is the only listenable Seattle AM left. It has the distinction of being the last Adult Standards radio station in a Top 20 market.
Hubbard has even floated taking donations to keep KIXI afloat. You know things are getting desperate when that's being considered.
Religious broadcasters aren't interested in buying AM stations anymore. If they want to reach a radio audience, better go FM.
 
In diary markets frequency is actually more important than call letters/name of station. Most diary holders identify by frequency.
...or name or name and frequency. Those two, separate or combined, account for over 80% of the average market's diary mentions. There rest include talent names and call letters, and that includes stations like KFI or WGN or WOR that identify by call letters.
 
Hubbard has even floated taking donations to keep KIXI afloat. You know things are getting desperate when that's being considered.
Religious broadcasters aren't interested in buying AM stations anymore. If they want to reach a radio audience, better go FM.
Maybe an option like KING-FM when they were turned over to a non profit, instead of trying to run it as a commercial operation. Trying to find a group or someone who would be interested in doing that, would be incredibly difficult. It worked for KING-FM, probably because the loss of it was unacceptable to Classical music fans who rallied to save it. I don't see that happening for an AM with less than a 1.0 share...unless there is a wealthy benefactor who is a fan of KIXI and has the money to save it
 
What about the 90% of people Nielsen doesn't select to have a PPM meter?
Do the math: LA has over 10 million persons 6+ in the MSA. They have about 5,000 meters "in tab" for each month. That is slightly less that 1/10th of one percent.
 
If you'd like to see what a PPM meter looks like, go to the Phoenix forum, and the thread "Wearable PPM...your choice". It's the first pic Dr. Akbar posted...and not the fez hat! Although that would make for an interesting option.
Those meters are not in use yet. Nielsen is going to start distributing them later this year. It will take about a year to replace the approximately 100,000 meters that are out there now. While not stated, I believe that the intent is to give the new meters to new panelists, and let the old meters disappear as the existing panelists "age out" or drop out.
 
It's attached by a belt/purse clip.
The best explanation for those who remember: it looks just like a pager.

Back when the PPM rolled out, there was considerable concern in markets like Miami where the only people wearing pagers were doctors and drug dealers that wearing a pager-like device might give the wrong impression.
 
The best explanation for those who remember: it looks just like a pager.
I'm familiar with pagers, as two of my aunts and one of my cousins went into nursing. Thanks for this description, it helps! Hey, don't forget about those office pagers too!
Back when the PPM rolled out, there was considerable concern in markets like Miami where the only people wearing pagers were doctors and drug dealers that wearing a pager-like device might give the wrong impression.
🤣 Now imagine Miami Vice being filmed in the modern day. Don Johnson thinking random citizens and doctors have cocaine because of their PPM devices, and then chaos ensues...
Do the math: LA has over 10 million persons 6+ in the MSA. They have about 5,000 meters "in tab" for each month. That is slightly less that 1/10th of one percent.
Right, so a very small amount of people have meters, so a rather unrepresentative sample size to work with when we make "everyone" assumptions. Most people will remember a brand name over a callsign, but just because PPM people does it, doesn't mean they all do. I'm sure Nielsen tries to be representative of the population, but @Kelly A s post kind of jumped to conclusions (no offense). But I do thank you both for showing me what such a device would look like!
 
...or name or name and frequency.
Right, like 94.5 The Breeze, or 92.9 The Bear, or 100.3 The Bee.
. There rest include talent names and call letters, and that includes stations like KFI or WGN or WOR that identify by call letters.
Each of those being the original, heritage callsigns if I recall correctly, right? (Okay, you did say on Page 4 that call-letters are harder to remember, but what about three-letter calls verus four or five?
 
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Maybe an option like KING-FM when they were turned over to a non profit, instead of trying to run it as a commercial operation.
The difference is; the organization that owns KING-FM is a not for profit 501C3. Hubbard is a for profit company, which makes weird enough tax implications more trouble than it's worth.
Trying to find a group or someone who would be interested in doing that, would be incredibly difficult. It worked for KING-FM, probably because the loss of it was unacceptable to Classical music fans who rallied to save it. I don't see that happening for an AM with less than a 1.0 share...unless there is a wealthy benefactor who is a fan of KIXI and has the money to save it
Again, you keep relying on 6+ numbers to reach your conclusions. Other than hobbyests or radio nerds; nobody in the business gauges the success or profitability that way. But you're right that playing music on an AM station is a lost cause, unless the station goes full digital/MA3.
 
unless the station goes full digital/MA3.
I would love to see more music stations experiment with the MA3 mode, or possibly multicasting on AM.
 
The difference is; the organization that owns KING-FM is a not for profit 501C3. Hubbard is a for profit company, which makes weird enough tax implications more trouble than it's worth.

Again, you keep relying on 6+ numbers to reach your conclusions. Other than hobbyests or radio nerds; nobody in the business gauges the success or profitability that way. But you're right that playing music on an AM station is a lost cause, unless the station goes full digital/MA3.
Like most on this site, the 6+ numbers are the only ones available to get an idea of a station's performance. While it doesn't narrow down specific demographic's that would tell the real story, it's the only way for many of us to get an idea of how a station is doing, looking at how it rates among the general public across all age ranges. It ranks up there with call letters, lack of radio options for those 55+, and Radio Disney, for pushing the buttons of some members here. Sorry!
 
Hubbard has even floated taking donations to keep KIXI afloat. You know things are getting desperate when that's being considered.
Religious broadcasters aren't interested in buying AM stations anymore. If they want to reach a radio audience, better go FM.
Although many, if not most ministries are now bypassing radio altogether.... YT is chock full of religious ministries' content. Religious music is still growing on FM (EMF's K-Love and Air1 are examples of this) but teaching is going more and more online. Not only do they have the tech available to do reasonably slick video content now, but it might even be cheaper for smaller ministries than radio anymore.
 
Surprising that he had to; but David explained it well.

What happens on this board, is somehow call letters are treated as some kind of permanent identity for a radio station, especially with historical calls like KOMO, or using call letters as a brand for multiple stations or streaming. Many seem to believe that changing calls, or identifying with a slogan, means something to a listener. Newsflash: 99.9% of radio listeners are concerned about where they get what content, not call letters. You folks here are in the .1% of listeners who pay attention to call letters verses what amounts simple branding.
I don't think a case can be made that listeners jump ship from a station just because of a call letter change.
Which is why I wondered about the frequent call letter changes at 1090. I mean, did anyone outside of radio geeks even know that when it was CBS Sports Radio is was also KFNQ? They could have kept it KPTK the entire time. Right now those particular calls would even work for "The Patriot".
 
Although many, if not most ministries are now bypassing radio altogether.... YT is chock full of religious ministries' content. Religious music is still growing on FM (EMF's K-Love and Air1 are examples of this) but teaching is going more and more online. Not only do they have the tech available to do reasonably slick video content now, but it might even be cheaper for smaller ministries than radio anymore.
EMF/KLOVE are still paying top dollar for FM properties, so they must still see the value in owning radio across the country.
 
EMF/KLOVE are still paying top dollar for FM properties, so they must still see the value in owning radio across the country.
I'm kind of curious what got into EMF's head to purchase 1570 WUBG and 1440 WLXN a few years back. They definitely seem to prefer FM (as they probably should) or online, except for these two stations. Actually, to play advocate here, half of K-Love's audience probably of the age range to have grown up on AM radio (not so much for Air1's audience).
 
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