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What's the difference between Rhythmic AC and Rhythmic CHR?

Can anyone explain the differences between these two formats? For instance, artists that one of those would play while the other one wouldn't, and vice versa.
 
Rhythmic CHRs tend to be very Current based, and play little Gold. There are a few exceptions such as heritage Rhythmic station 99.1 KGGI Riverside.

Rhythmic AC stations will usually play no more than 40-50 percent currents in a given hour, and you'll hear plenty of 90s and 80s titles on most of these stations. Some Rhythmic ACs only play 1 or 2 Currents per hour, if any at all.
 
CHRles said:
Rhythmic CHRs tend to be very Current based, and play little Gold. There are a few exceptions such as heritage Rhythmic station 99.1 KGGI Riverside.

Rhythmic AC stations will usually play no more than 40-50 percent currents in a given hour, and you'll hear plenty of 90s and 80s titles on most of these stations. Some Rhythmic ACs only play 1 or 2 Currents per hour, if any at all.

Good analysis. Also Rhythmic AC plays little hip hop except for the most pop leaning like B.O.B
 
wish i could make a real comment but here in ATL we have a rhythmic and rhythmic ac. both seem to play the same exact music, but the ac plays a bit more of the older hits.
 
Rhythmic AC plays the biggest upbeat CHR hits while also playing gold from the 70s, 80s, 90s, and 00s. I program a station like this, RDL101.com and I often listen to MOViN 104.9 out of Anchorage, Alaska to give me some good ideas. It's targeted to 28-40 year-old women who feel too old for hip-hop, but are bored with rock-based Hot AC and not ready for traditional AC as MOViN says. Some current sample artists would be Lady Gaga, Beyonce, Akon, and Rihanna.

Rhythmic CHR plays hits and hip-hop... some hip-hop sounding CHR and crossover Urban stuff. Both urban and CHR listeners can listen to rhythmic and be familiar with the music. Pitbull, Ke$ha, Gaga and Timbaland are big Rhythmic artists. But also Jay-Z, The-Dream, and Ludacris can be played on Rhythmic.

Some people don't understand the difference, but although Rhythmic AC plays upbeat and big rhythmic singles, most of the current stuff on Rhythmic AC is actually CHR. The current Rhythmic CHR stuff is a little too hip-hop for Rhythmic AC listeners. Remember the demo of Rhythmic AC are 28-40 Caucasian and Latino women... most likely they're listening to Mix or Lite during the day. Rhythmic AC exists to try to get those listeners to listen to a station that makes them feel hip and upbeat.
 
Good description, LoveJamminOldies. I will add one other thing. There appears to be two types of Rhythmic AC's. The type you described is what one might call Rhythmic Hot AC, like WKTU/NY. The other type plays less pop, dance and hip-hop and instead, plays more R&B, like KHHT/LA. The latter comes close to Rhythmic Oldies, Urban Oldies or Urban AC.
 
There also is a difference in the type of Rhythmic AC format that the "Movin'" branded stations play and the rhythmic AC heard on many of Clear Channel's stations in the format. The Movin' branded stations that first launched and the few that are still around, tend to play more hip hop and r&b gold mixed in, as well as some slow jamz, while the Clear Channel rhythmic AC's tend to be "poppier" sounding with less urban flavored stuff and more dance and pop (disco, freestyle, 90s dance, today's CHR hits, etc.) Also, they are more uptempo and usually avoid slow jam type songs.

I like both flavors of the format myself, but I really prefer the dance/pop version that Clear Channel does over the Burn's "Movin" brand of the format. I think the Clear Channel stations sound more fun and uptempo and appeal to a wider audience. (WMIA Miami & WZJZ Ft. Myers are probably my two favorites because they mix in a lot of Latin Freestyle dance tracks). Anyway, I think the format would have gotten off to a bigger start if it had followed Clear Channel's more dance/pop direction instead of Burn's hip hop/urban lean that the Movin' stations launched with.
 
We had a Rhythmic Ac here in Az. It was sounding very nice, but then they went all pop rock. However, they still kept the "hits from back in the day & today" slogan. They are still ok, but the only Movin I truly like is in San Fransisco. Why? Because they have Club 997 and House Nation. WiLD 94.9 was my former favorite of all time back in the late 90's, early 00's.
 
KDM 7000 said:
We had a Rhythmic Ac here in Az. It was sounding very nice, but then they went all pop rock. However, they still kept the "hits from back in the day & today" slogan. They are still ok, but the only Movin I truly like is in San Fransisco. Why? Because they have Club 997 and House Nation. WiLD 94.9 was my former favorite of all time back in the late 90's, early 00's.

Can MOVIN/SF still be classified as Rhythmic AC? They seem to be more CHR to me.
 
Jay F said:
Can MOVIN/SF still be classified as Rhythmic AC? They seem to be more CHR to me.

KMVQ/San Francisco evolved to Top 40/CHR in 2008. BDS and Mediabase has the station on their Top 40 reporting panels.
 
I'm surprised they did this way back in 2008 because last year at this exact time I began to notice them in their transition state towards the top 40 sound, but still somewhat playing many back in the day hits from Livin Joy, Mo Thugs Family...etc. They also did their last Workout Mix at noon featuring old school dance (freestyle, house, booty bass) the same week as the Michael Jackson incident. After the day of the Michael Jackson megamix, the original noon mix was gone, and then a few months afterwards the website featuring those mixes disappeared as well.

KMVA was heading in the direction of rhythmic top 40 while still playing the back in the day rhythmic hits, but then all these current pop roock / alternative pop sounding songs started sneaking their way into the playlist while the rhythmic/dance recurrents remained. Flash forward to today and they are completely pop / pop rock from back in the day and today. If KMVA had their current format with exception of the back in the day portion of their playlist, they'd be very much like what WSTR used to be.

I'm not sure if KMVA is still labeled as Rhythmic AC, but they are surely not that anymore, unless The Fray and Kings of Leon with some old school Len and Deep Blue Something are considered Rhythmic AC now. I kind of wish we had KMVQ here, or the KMVQ mixshow schedule on KZZP.
 
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