What's up at 102.7 Jack-FM?

[Kent]

I wonder what Connoisseurs track record is for format changes are they tweaks or known to blow up a station

Connoisseur hasn't ever operated this many stations before, but it jettisoned Jack in Dayton. As Chip mentions, it made two format changes that day.

I believe Lance when he says programming decisions are being made at the local level. That means we can't really predict what's going to happen based on any sort of vibe at the corporate office. If anything, we'll find out how many markets felt constrained by Alpha's programming philosophy.

 

[Deleted member 108832]

Connoisseur hasn't ever operated this many stations before, but it jettisoned Jack in Dayton. As Chip mentions, it made two format changes that day.

I remain hopeful that the fine folks at 210 S. Broadway are getting everything in order to bring back something other than the lifeless jukebox that has occupied KOOI for the last 9 years.

I believe Lance when he says programming decisions are being made at the local level.

Now, when I created The Ranch thread, a week or so back, I noted that what we are hearing now sounds like it is being produced in-house, and not taken from a satellite feed. There's no one live, other than "Harlan the sports guy" for the Friday night scoreboard, but who's generating the playlist, then, if it's not being done at the Alpha, er Connoisseur studio, on the square in Tyler?

That means we can't really predict what's going to happen based on any sort of vibe at the corporate office. If anything, we'll find out how many markets felt constrained by Alpha's programming philosophy.

If ever there was a time to pour some cold water on The Blaze, this would be it. Could you just picture the looks on the faces at Reynolds, if Connoisseur were to take 106.5 Rhythmic CHR? 😲 😳

Has there been a time announcement on when this is taking place on Monday?

 

[TheFlameThrower]

personally I would love to see the calls switched back to KTFM at the very least even with a similar Jack format ...never understood why such legendary calls were dropped even if it went to a "Jack" format...there must have been some souring of the calls through it's struggles but you correct the ship not get a whole new vessel .. having them parked on a sports format is just well...sad

 

[Kent]

never understood why such legendary calls were dropped even if it went to a "Jack" format...there must have been some souring of the calls through it's struggles but you correct the ship not get a whole new vessel .. having them parked on a sports format is just well...sad

The KTFM calls were dropped when 102.7 switched to rock as K-Rock 102.7 KSRX. Border Media immediately applied to warehouse them on 720. They were later parked a few other places before moving to 94.1.

 

[davi78239]

Do you think The App ends up on 102.7? Slim chance eh? One can wish.

 

[TheFlameThrower]

The KTFM calls were dropped when 102.7 switched to rock as K-Rock 102.7 KSRX. Border Media immediately applied to warehouse them on 720. They were later parked a few other places before moving to 94.1.

forgot about that brief misguided format switch to take on KISS ..the only way that might have been successful at the time would have been to be a full fledged alternative station....that ship has sailed as I don't see much variance between "rock" and "alternative" anymore other than gold titles from back in the day when they had very distinctive sounds

 

[TheFlameThrower]

Do you think The App ends up on 102.7? Slim chance eh? One can wish.

not on that frequency,,,but I could see that working on something like KXXM instead of that spanglish mess they turned into...they actually had a modern bent to their Top 40 format when they first rebranded as KXXM but like I said on another post there is not a big distinction anymore between rock and alternative

 

[Kent]

forgot about that brief misguided format switch to take on KISS ..the only way that might have been successful at the time would have been to be a full fledged alternative station....

I sent K-Rock a T&R after it launched. I did the same with Magic and Z106.7. Other than a couple postcards to confirm package receipt, I didn't hear back from any of them. I used to tell myself K-Rock and Z would've worked if they would've hired me!

(It's probably not true because I couldn't even save the heritage CHR in my small market after a competitor (where I worked before) came in and beat it up. I didn't even last a year at the heritage station before almost all of us got fired. I could still dream, though!)

 

[willdav713]

Look at the ratings.

KONO FM is #1 except for last month KQXT FM took first place (probably the Christmas Music) 7.6/ 6.3
KQXT FM #2 4.3/ 9.9
KCYY FM #3 5.5
KAJA FM #4 5.4
KTKX FM #5 5.1
KROM FM #6 5.0
KSMG FM #7 4.5
KISS FM #8 4.3
KSTX FM #9 4.2
KVBH FM #10 4.2

Though KJXK came in at #11 at 3.8
KTFM FM and KTKR AM garnered a 1.0 last month.

I can see 102.7 flipping to Oldies/Classic Hits

And Energy coming back to 94.1 to compete against two Cox Radio stations KONO and KSMG.

Regional Mexican covered by 104.1 KSAH
Country and Classic Country is covered by 92.5/93.3, 97.3, 100.3, and 104.9
Hip Hop is already covered by 94.5 and 98.5 numbers do not look that great.

Looking at Connoisseur's other stations that seems like a logical move.

I don't see it going Urban Adult Contemporary like KSJL back in the day. We don't have the listener base for that like you would in Houston, Los Angeles, New Orleans, Stockton, Gary, or Detroit.

 

[lanceventa]

but who's generating the playlist, then, if it's not being done at the Alpha, er Connoisseur studio, on the square in Tyler?

Connoisseur has corporate format teams. Country is being led by Rob Kelley, who is the operations manager for the clusters in Lincoln NE and Topeka KS. The latter of which has Classic Country in the building. Like many operators there are also outside consultants assisting with music and strategy. The days of people hand scheduling stations are long over. In all likelihood there's one person building the library and `clocks in GSelector or Musicmaster and the computer doing the rest. You don't need a local employee to do that.

 

[davi78239]

Look at the ratings.

KONO FM is #1 except for last month KQXT FM took first place (probably the Christmas Music) 7.6/ 6.3
KQXT FM #2 4.3/ 9.9
KCYY FM #3 5.5
KAJA FM #4 5.4
KTKX FM #5 5.1
KROM FM #6 5.0
KSMG FM #7 4.5
KISS FM #8 4.3
KSTX FM #9 4.2
KVBH FM #10 4.2

Though KJXK came in at #11 at 3.8
KTFM FM and KTKR AM garnered a 1.0 last month.

I can see 102.7 flipping to Oldies/Classic Hits

And Energy coming back to 94.1 to compete against two Cox Radio stations KONO and KSMG.

Regional Mexican covered by 104.1 KSAH
Country and Classic Country is covered by 92.5/93.3, 97.3, 100.3, and 104.9
Hip Hop is already covered by 94.5 and 98.5 numbers do not look that great.

Looking at Connoisseur's other stations that seems like a logical move.

I don't see it going Urban Adult Contemporary like KSJL back in the day. We don't have the listener base for that like you would in Houston, Los Angeles, New Orleans, Stockton, Gary, or Detroit.

94.5 is The App now no?

 

[dlf1]

If it is the end of the Adult Hits format, would someone else pick it up? Not sure about revenue, but the ratings have been fairly consistent over the years.

Individually, KZEP would be a good choice, however, the current format seems to mesh well with the cluster presently.

Not sure if the return of KTFM to 102.7 is the end result, but San Antonio is a different city from the KTFM heyday. Many of the new residents (and there are many) have no idea about KTFM.

A relaunch of Z93 in Dayton worked because that population hasn’t really changed. If you are from Dayton, you either live your whole life there, or you leave at 18 and don’t come back.

 

[Kent]

I can see 102.7 flipping to Oldies/Classic Hits

One could make the case that it was already classic hits as Jack, though it was definitely packaged differently from KONO and most other classic hits stations. Whatever happens, it will likely duplicate another format already in the market unless it goes mainstream CHR. While I haven’t seen billing numbers in years, I would've expected Jack to have billed more than 96.1 in their last few years. The numbers at Jack were slightly better, and the demographics were significantly more advertiser friendly. Not that people don’t think they can do certain formats better than their former competitors, but taking 102.7 from Jack to mainstream CHR would seem like a risky and strange bet.

And Energy coming back to 94.1 to compete against two Cox Radio stations KONO and KSMG.

I tend to doubt Energy will come back. From what I understand, Sports Star makes good money despite the low ratings. Energy was also an awful CHR. If anybody wants to walk away from sports in San Antonio for CHR, they need to do a lot better than Energy.

Hip Hop is already covered by 94.5 and 98.5 numbers do not look that great.

94.5 is no longer running hip hop. Otherwise, your point is valid, though.

I don't see it going Urban Adult Contemporary like KSJL back in the day. We don't have the listener base for that like you would in Houston, Los Angeles, New Orleans, Stockton, Gary, or Detroit.

San Antonio has a larger percentage of African Americans in its 6+ population than Los Angeles does, FYI. The total numbers are a lot smaller, but San Antonio is roughly 8% African American; Los Angeles is about 7%. Having said that, I don’t see urban AC as being the best option in San Antonio.

Not sure if the return of KTFM to 102.7 is the end result, but San Antonio is a different city from the KTFM heyday. Many of the new residents (and there are many) have no idea about KTFM.

This is true. Whatever 102.7 does, it’s going to have to win based on programming. Heritage might help a little if it goes for an older skewing approach, but it can’t be the deciding factor.

A relaunch of Z93 in Dayton worked because that population hasn’t really changed. If you are from Dayton, you either live your whole life there, or you leave at 18 and don’t come back.

Dayton and San Antonio are definitely different. I would also assert that, while a lot of us like Z93 and what it’s doing, we don’t have enough evidence to say it’s working yet. It seems to be doing about what it did as Jack FM. Maybe that’s enough to be successful, but I don’t think the jury has been out long enough to render a verdict.

 

[Deleted member 108832]

94.5 is The App now no?

I believe 94.5 is Hip Hop "We", and "The App" is at 103.3.

 

[willdav713]

I believe 94.5 is Hip Hop "We", and "The App" is at 103.3.

94.5 Was Hip Hop. It flipped to an ESPN 1250 simulcast. On Energy 94.1 Facebook page it mentions San Antonio's 102.7. Looks like 94.1 and 102.7 will both be changing formats.

 

[radiodog2]

Is the We Hip Hop format still running on an HD channel of 94.1?

 

[saradio1]

Tune in tomorrow @ 7am
A Rock format?

 

[davideduardo]

San Antonio has a larger percentage of African Americans in its 6+ population than Los Angeles does, FYI. The total numbers are a lot smaller, but San Antonio is roughly 8% African American; Los Angeles is about 7%. Having said that, I don’t see urban AC as being the best option in San Antonio.

The secret of Urban AC in LA is appealing to later generation Hispanics and many LA residents ethnic groups such as Armenians who like their music mix. If you compare playlists, The Wave in LA has similarity with other such formats in the rest of the USA, but has fewer “pure Black” songs and quite a few ones not as common to the format.

Except, perhaps, for San Francisco’s similar station, other Urban AC stations tend to be 90% black or more. Not so with The Wave.

And LA’s Urban and Churban pair have significantly more Hispanic listeners than Black.

 

[lanceventa]

On Energy 94.1 Facebook page it mentions San Antonio's 102.7. Looks like 94.1 and 102.7 will both be changing formats.

94.1 is NOT flipping. That's the page for the old CHR format that they never killed off. Simply repurposed it to promote.

Is the We Hip Hop format still running on an HD channel of 94.1?

We is dead... 94.1 HD2 feeds We 103.3. HD3 feeds 94.5's ESPN programming.

As mentioned earlier in the thread, I've heard 1250 will be shut off.

 

[TheFlameThrower]

94.5 Was Hip Hop. It flipped to an ESPN 1250 simulcast. On Energy 94.1 Facebook page it mentions San Antonio's 102.7. Looks like 94.1 and 102.7 will both be changing formats.

interesting