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MoeFugger
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Is Diamond Dave Wellington out of there before Stern is? Is he going to stay in the market and keep rockin?
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RumourControl
Guest
> Is Diamond Dave Wellington out of there before Stern is? Is
> he going to stay in the market and keep rockin?
>
That will depend on whether their format remains once Stern is gone. So far one year in he has not produced the ratings hoped for and watering down the brand wont help.
> he going to stay in the market and keep rockin?
>
That will depend on whether their format remains once Stern is gone. So far one year in he has not produced the ratings hoped for and watering down the brand wont help.
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AlmostFamous
Guest
> Is Diamond Dave Wellington out of there before Stern is? Is
> he going to stay in the market and keep rockin?
>
What have you heard? Is the station changing formats? Is he leaving for another job? Are the Infinity Bosses not happy with him and sending him on his way?
> he going to stay in the market and keep rockin?
>
What have you heard? Is the station changing formats? Is he leaving for another job? Are the Infinity Bosses not happy with him and sending him on his way?
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Frish
Guest
> Is Diamond Dave Wellington out of there before Stern is? Is
> he going to stay in the market and keep rockin?
>
Moe where are you getting the idea that he would be leaving?. Truth is that station is not doing great compared to the Oedipus era I agree they dont have any real identity beyond hey we play Pearl jam a lot but who said that he is going anywhere?
> he going to stay in the market and keep rockin?
>
Moe where are you getting the idea that he would be leaving?. Truth is that station is not doing great compared to the Oedipus era I agree they dont have any real identity beyond hey we play Pearl jam a lot but who said that he is going anywhere?
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Joseph_Gallant
Guest
Although up to two dozen of Howard Stern's current affiliates will likely be changing formats when he leaves, WBCN won't be one of them.
Yes, 'BCN will take a hit in the morning when Stern leaves, but the station is in much better shape than many of Stern's current affiliates. Many Stern stations have nearly no audience after 10 A.M. WBCN does have an audience even when Stern isn't on.
I suspect that a year from now, WBCN will still be a rock station, with Stern likely having been replaced by a local morning show that will play music.
Yes, 'BCN will take a hit in the morning when Stern leaves, but the station is in much better shape than many of Stern's current affiliates. Many Stern stations have nearly no audience after 10 A.M. WBCN does have an audience even when Stern isn't on.
I suspect that a year from now, WBCN will still be a rock station, with Stern likely having been replaced by a local morning show that will play music.
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WizardofProd
Guest
> Although up to two dozen of Howard Stern's current
> affiliates will likely be changing formats when he leaves,
> WBCN won't be one of them.
>
> Yes, 'BCN will take a hit in the morning when Stern leaves,
> but the station is in much better shape than many of Stern's
> current affiliates. Many Stern stations have nearly no
> audience after 10 A.M. WBCN does have an audience even when
> Stern isn't on.
Unfortunately you are expressing your opinion I doubt that Mistress Carrie, or Neanderpaul would agree with you Joeseph. People who only see what the papers publish by way of ratings (the 12+ number) have no actual idea of what is happening in ratings. They dont have big numbers outside of Stern they are not beating their competition. Numbers are numbers.
>
> I suspect that a year from now, WBCN will still be a rock
> station, with Stern likely having been replaced by a local
> morning show that will play music.
If they are a rock station they will have a morning show that infinity has assigned them and it more than likely will not be local.
> affiliates will likely be changing formats when he leaves,
> WBCN won't be one of them.
>
> Yes, 'BCN will take a hit in the morning when Stern leaves,
> but the station is in much better shape than many of Stern's
> current affiliates. Many Stern stations have nearly no
> audience after 10 A.M. WBCN does have an audience even when
> Stern isn't on.
Unfortunately you are expressing your opinion I doubt that Mistress Carrie, or Neanderpaul would agree with you Joeseph. People who only see what the papers publish by way of ratings (the 12+ number) have no actual idea of what is happening in ratings. They dont have big numbers outside of Stern they are not beating their competition. Numbers are numbers.
>
> I suspect that a year from now, WBCN will still be a rock
> station, with Stern likely having been replaced by a local
> morning show that will play music.
If they are a rock station they will have a morning show that infinity has assigned them and it more than likely will not be local.
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neanderpol
Guest
> WBCN does have an audience even when
> Stern isn't on.
Yes they do. Unfortunately, it diminishes greatly after 11AM.
I'm not going to wave the flag of my current employers. I will say this:
Stern does very well for them.
The Patriots do very well for them. On Sundays.
Most people watch the games on TV. Many tune in Gino & Gil while doing so. Unfortunately for WBCN, after the games, and Monday through Saturday, when people really want to know what's up, they're playing The Strokes, or The Killers, or that cool Beck song. In that respect, Oedipus was right. The Patriots and WBCN are a bad fit. When people think "Pats Football", they're thinking about something other than WBCN-FM. BCN sets up the sports stations for the weekdays' content.
This might be why rumors of a flip to Sports Talk persist. With the return of the NHL, they could probably move the Bruins over. Although they've lost out for the rights to the Celtics. I suspect that they won't truly be missing a great source of revenue for a few years anyway.
And I believe the Red Sox are in play right now.
With all of the money they save on Stern, and not having a night jock...perhaps they're preparing a huge bid.
Or...perhaps they stay doing what they do, and either the audience suddenly snaps back, or they don't.
> Stern isn't on.
Yes they do. Unfortunately, it diminishes greatly after 11AM.
I'm not going to wave the flag of my current employers. I will say this:
Stern does very well for them.
The Patriots do very well for them. On Sundays.
Most people watch the games on TV. Many tune in Gino & Gil while doing so. Unfortunately for WBCN, after the games, and Monday through Saturday, when people really want to know what's up, they're playing The Strokes, or The Killers, or that cool Beck song. In that respect, Oedipus was right. The Patriots and WBCN are a bad fit. When people think "Pats Football", they're thinking about something other than WBCN-FM. BCN sets up the sports stations for the weekdays' content.
This might be why rumors of a flip to Sports Talk persist. With the return of the NHL, they could probably move the Bruins over. Although they've lost out for the rights to the Celtics. I suspect that they won't truly be missing a great source of revenue for a few years anyway.
And I believe the Red Sox are in play right now.
With all of the money they save on Stern, and not having a night jock...perhaps they're preparing a huge bid.
Or...perhaps they stay doing what they do, and either the audience suddenly snaps back, or they don't.
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WizardofProd
Guest
> > WBCN does have an audience even when
> > Stern isn't on.
>
> Yes they do. Unfortunately, it diminishes greatly after
> 11AM.
>
> I'm not going to wave the flag of my current employers. I
> will say this:
>
> Stern does very well for them.
>
> The Patriots do very well for them. On Sundays.
>
> Most people watch the games on TV. Many tune in Gino & Gil
> while doing so. Unfortunately for WBCN, after the games, and
> Monday through Saturday, when people really want to know
> what's up, they're playing The Strokes, or The Killers, or
> that cool Beck song. In that respect, Oedipus was right. The
> Patriots and WBCN are a bad fit. When people think "Pats
> Football", they're thinking about something other than
> WBCN-FM. BCN sets up the sports stations for the weekdays'
> content.
>
> This might be why rumors of a flip to Sports Talk persist.
> With the return of the NHL, they could probably move the
> Bruins over. Although they've lost out for the rights to the
> Celtics. I suspect that they won't truly be missing a great
> source of revenue for a few years anyway.
>
> And I believe the Red Sox are in play right now.
>
> With all of the money they save on Stern, and not having a
> night jock...perhaps they're preparing a huge bid.
>
> Or...perhaps they stay doing what they do, and either the
> audience suddenly snaps back, or they don't.
>
Paul I think this is your own fantasy, the rumors of a flip to sports no longer exist. Why? because you cannot run a sports station with one team that only plays 16 games, the sox are with EEi again as you know, the celtics are now with rko as you know, in short the station will not flip sports, it wont happen.
> > Stern isn't on.
>
> Yes they do. Unfortunately, it diminishes greatly after
> 11AM.
>
> I'm not going to wave the flag of my current employers. I
> will say this:
>
> Stern does very well for them.
>
> The Patriots do very well for them. On Sundays.
>
> Most people watch the games on TV. Many tune in Gino & Gil
> while doing so. Unfortunately for WBCN, after the games, and
> Monday through Saturday, when people really want to know
> what's up, they're playing The Strokes, or The Killers, or
> that cool Beck song. In that respect, Oedipus was right. The
> Patriots and WBCN are a bad fit. When people think "Pats
> Football", they're thinking about something other than
> WBCN-FM. BCN sets up the sports stations for the weekdays'
> content.
>
> This might be why rumors of a flip to Sports Talk persist.
> With the return of the NHL, they could probably move the
> Bruins over. Although they've lost out for the rights to the
> Celtics. I suspect that they won't truly be missing a great
> source of revenue for a few years anyway.
>
> And I believe the Red Sox are in play right now.
>
> With all of the money they save on Stern, and not having a
> night jock...perhaps they're preparing a huge bid.
>
> Or...perhaps they stay doing what they do, and either the
> audience suddenly snaps back, or they don't.
>
Paul I think this is your own fantasy, the rumors of a flip to sports no longer exist. Why? because you cannot run a sports station with one team that only plays 16 games, the sox are with EEi again as you know, the celtics are now with rko as you know, in short the station will not flip sports, it wont happen.
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neanderpol
Guest
> Paul I think this is your own fantasy, the rumors of a flip
> to sports no longer exist. Why? because you cannot run a
> sports station with one team that only plays 16 games, the
> sox are with EEi again as you know, the celtics are now with
> rko as you know, in short the station will not flip sports,
> it wont happen.
>
Well...amazingly, WEEI is all-sports and only has the Sox, and network affiliation. (and as far as I know, the new deal ain't done yet)
Infinity has the Pats and the Bruins. So....it is possible. And I hadn't heard the Sports rumor had died.
Apologies for beating the proverbial dead horse-hair merkin.
> to sports no longer exist. Why? because you cannot run a
> sports station with one team that only plays 16 games, the
> sox are with EEi again as you know, the celtics are now with
> rko as you know, in short the station will not flip sports,
> it wont happen.
>
Well...amazingly, WEEI is all-sports and only has the Sox, and network affiliation. (and as far as I know, the new deal ain't done yet)
Infinity has the Pats and the Bruins. So....it is possible. And I hadn't heard the Sports rumor had died.
Apologies for beating the proverbial dead horse-hair merkin.
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cabradio
Guest
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AlmostFamous
Guest
> Any chance of them trying Spanish on FM?
>
Who knows? Anything is possible.
But Moe, the orignal poster, posts alot on the Chicago Board. Are there any PD gigs in Chicago that are available? Maybe he knows something that he's not letting us in on. Just teasing us. Or maybe he knows nothing.
>
Who knows? Anything is possible.
But Moe, the orignal poster, posts alot on the Chicago Board. Are there any PD gigs in Chicago that are available? Maybe he knows something that he's not letting us in on. Just teasing us. Or maybe he knows nothing.
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WizardofProd
Guest
> > Paul I think this is your own fantasy, the rumors of a
> flip
> > to sports no longer exist. Why? because you cannot run a
> > sports station with one team that only plays 16 games, the
>
> > sox are with EEi again as you know, the celtics are now
> with
> > rko as you know, in short the station will not flip
> sports,
> > it wont happen.
> >
>
> Well...amazingly, WEEI is all-sports and only has the Sox,
> and network affiliation. (and as far as I know, the new deal
> ain't done yet)
>
Strange I thought the sox/eei deal was a done deal. I thought that eei had excercised the option for one more year? you would know better than us though you're in the building!.
> flip
> > to sports no longer exist. Why? because you cannot run a
> > sports station with one team that only plays 16 games, the
>
> > sox are with EEi again as you know, the celtics are now
> with
> > rko as you know, in short the station will not flip
> sports,
> > it wont happen.
> >
>
> Well...amazingly, WEEI is all-sports and only has the Sox,
> and network affiliation. (and as far as I know, the new deal
> ain't done yet)
>
Strange I thought the sox/eei deal was a done deal. I thought that eei had excercised the option for one more year? you would know better than us though you're in the building!.
F
Frish
Guest
> > Any chance of them trying Spanish on FM?
> >
>
> I hear that Infinity was not at all happy with the numbers
> of their Spanish Tropical "El Zol 99.1" in Washington. So
> I'm guessing that they would hold out on any new Spanish
> stations for the time being.
>
Infinity didn;t give "Blink @102.7" more than one book before they flipped it, three months which is never enough time to see anything. They dont seem very paitient or realistic these days, El Zol is barley a year old and we know that the audience is mostly brain dead and it takes them six months or more to even grasp that a station has changed format.......true if you tuned into HFS and heard "EL ZOL" you would realize immediately but that is the exception not the rule.
We'll see but I doubt the ethnic make up of Boston is good pickens for a spanish station of that magnitude, I dont think they'll go that way. Watch Krock NYC if that station is not allowed to keep the rock after Howard that wont bode well for bcn.........It's all about the wait.
> >
>
> I hear that Infinity was not at all happy with the numbers
> of their Spanish Tropical "El Zol 99.1" in Washington. So
> I'm guessing that they would hold out on any new Spanish
> stations for the time being.
>
Infinity didn;t give "Blink @102.7" more than one book before they flipped it, three months which is never enough time to see anything. They dont seem very paitient or realistic these days, El Zol is barley a year old and we know that the audience is mostly brain dead and it takes them six months or more to even grasp that a station has changed format.......true if you tuned into HFS and heard "EL ZOL" you would realize immediately but that is the exception not the rule.
We'll see but I doubt the ethnic make up of Boston is good pickens for a spanish station of that magnitude, I dont think they'll go that way. Watch Krock NYC if that station is not allowed to keep the rock after Howard that wont bode well for bcn.........It's all about the wait.
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neanderpol
Guest
>> Strange I thought the sox/eei deal was a done deal. I
> thought that eei had excercised the option for one more
> year? you would know better than us though you're in the
> building!.
You'd be surprised how singular all of the stations are.
I know WEEI has them for this season, but I believe they're free agents as soon as they get the trophy handed to them in October...
> thought that eei had excercised the option for one more
> year? you would know better than us though you're in the
> building!.
You'd be surprised how singular all of the stations are.
I know WEEI has them for this season, but I believe they're free agents as soon as they get the trophy handed to them in October...
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Frish
Guest
> > Any chance of them trying Spanish on FM?
> >
> Who knows? Anything is possible.
>
> But Moe, the orignal poster, posts alot on the Chicago
> Board. Are there any PD gigs in Chicago that are available?
> Maybe he knows something that he's not letting us in on.
> Just teasing us. Or maybe he knows nothing.
>
How would he be in line for a position in Chicago when he has not achieved anything here yet?.
> >
> Who knows? Anything is possible.
>
> But Moe, the orignal poster, posts alot on the Chicago
> Board. Are there any PD gigs in Chicago that are available?
> Maybe he knows something that he's not letting us in on.
> Just teasing us. Or maybe he knows nothing.
>
How would he be in line for a position in Chicago when he has not achieved anything here yet?.
F
fccfight
Guest
The station has stayed pretty much the same since Wellington took over - comparing it to two years ago, what's the difference?
It is clear Dave is just keeping status quo until they figure out where they are going with it. All politics is local sayeth Tip O'Neil, give satellite a little more time to ruffle the feathers, radio - WBCN in particular - will have to cater to the region
> > Is Diamond Dave Wellington out of there before Stern is?
> Is
> > he going to stay in the market and keep rockin?
> >
>
> Moe where are you getting the idea that he would be
> leaving?. Truth is that station is not doing great compared
> to the Oedipus era I agree they dont have any real identity
> beyond hey we play Pearl jam a lot but who said that he is
> going anywhere?
>
It is clear Dave is just keeping status quo until they figure out where they are going with it. All politics is local sayeth Tip O'Neil, give satellite a little more time to ruffle the feathers, radio - WBCN in particular - will have to cater to the region
> > Is Diamond Dave Wellington out of there before Stern is?
> Is
> > he going to stay in the market and keep rockin?
> >
>
> Moe where are you getting the idea that he would be
> leaving?. Truth is that station is not doing great compared
> to the Oedipus era I agree they dont have any real identity
> beyond hey we play Pearl jam a lot but who said that he is
> going anywhere?
>
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WizardofProd
Guest
> The station has stayed pretty much the same since Wellington
> took over - comparing it to two years ago, what's the
> difference?
>
> It is clear Dave is just keeping status quo until they
> figure out where they are going with it. All politics is
> local sayeth Tip O'Neil, give satellite a little more time
> to ruffle the feathers, radio - WBCN in particular - will
> have to cater to the region
>
Maybe so to some degree but it is well known that he was not hired to keep the status quo if that was the case he would not have gotten rid of virtually the entire full time airststaff go to the web site and you see only two names.. No he was hired to make things happen which he has not. That is where it stands.
> took over - comparing it to two years ago, what's the
> difference?
>
> It is clear Dave is just keeping status quo until they
> figure out where they are going with it. All politics is
> local sayeth Tip O'Neil, give satellite a little more time
> to ruffle the feathers, radio - WBCN in particular - will
> have to cater to the region
>
Maybe so to some degree but it is well known that he was not hired to keep the status quo if that was the case he would not have gotten rid of virtually the entire full time airststaff go to the web site and you see only two names.. No he was hired to make things happen which he has not. That is where it stands.
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