What's up with KLSD's 50,000 WATTS request?

[RBA]

I the GOP managed FCC waiting until after the election?

 

[OldGringo]

I the GOP managed FCC waiting until after the election?

They have a Construction permit and are, supposedly, in the process of building it. It takes sometimes 2 to 3 years to do this kind of upgrade, what with EPA permits, FAA, city, electrical, COunty, etc., etc. once the FCc approved, which it did long ago.

 

[Lopaka]

Isn't it to be run thru the existing KSDO array? Does anybody know what the nighttime power and pattern would be? And while on the topic, how is KCBQ doing--and where will they be transmitting from--and what will their power & pattern be?

 

[OldGringo]

Isn't it to be run thru the existing KSDO array? Does anybody know what the nighttime power and pattern would be? And while on the topic, how is KCBQ doing--and where will they be transmitting from--and what will their power & pattern be?

In that case, they probably don't have much in the way of permits. Desgning the combiner , building it and tuning it would take 12 to 18 months if they are not on a rush schedule.

 

[jonbruce]

As I recall, KCBQ will be using the 910 towers in El Cajon

 

[SDRadio]

'CBQ's move to 50,000 watts should be soon. The station was testing the 50kw.

As for KLSD's increase to the same; Clear Channel remains the owner of the KSDO transmitter site -- a very smart move.

 

[mteran5]

Does anyone think when KLSD gets there upgrade probualy in a few years will AAR still exist.

 

[Lopaka]

As a fan of Air America Radio, I hope so. But realistically, no. It probably won't exist. Maybe it will be streamed out of LA with Spanish prayers like KSDO. You certainly don't want any viewpoint other than pro war, pro debt, pro deficit, pro torture getting to the public.

As a result of yesterday's election the Democrats now control at least the House, apparently also the Senate. I wonder what the effect would be on the value of the stock of broadcasting monopolies of introduction of a bill to restore the 7 station ownership rule. Haven't they earned it? Really, haven't they?? It won't happen, though, and AAR won't be here much longer, either. Reality...

 

[zumahans]

Is there a map anywhere of the planned KLSD signal's day and night patterns?

 

[Bob_Hudson]

I wonder what the effect would be on the value of the stock of broadcasting monopolies of introduction of a bill to restore the 7 station ownership rule.

At the end of the day, the Democrats in Congress all worship at the same altars as the Republicans and there is no way they are going tick off huge media companies by putting any new restrictions on them. Remember, the Telecommunications Act of 1996 of was signed by Bill Clinton after being approved by all but five members of the Senate (four of them Dems) and 16 members of the House.

 

[Lopaka]

When deregulation was being proposed, did anyone see what was coming? Am I wrong, or has deregulation not been a disaster for the broadcasting industry? After all, if you way over pay for a station the only way you can make the numbers work is to can the staff and cut service to the listeners, and isn't that what has happened?

The broadcasting monopolies are in a very interesting position. Yes, they are powerful. But they are incredibly vulnerable as well. Revocation of licenses or restoration of the 7 station ownership rule basically annihalates the value of their stock and then they are not powerful any more. They are history. This is one reason why provoking insane political economics is short sighted and foolish from a business point of view. Democrats are not vindictive enough to annihalate the broadcasting monopolies now, but if insane economics produce another depression, or a hyper inflation, yes, you will indeed have angry radicals come to power and there is no guarantee they would behave rationally. And that would be only the beginning of problems.

 

[Lopaka]

There could be very solid reasons why it hasn't happened but bumping KOGO's power up has always seemed like a good idea. The station already has some regular listeners in LA, its not unreasonable to think that a much stronger signal in that direction could make it as much a presence there as KFI has always been here. And if there are reasons why such a bump hasn't happened...as they say, I am all ears.

 

[OldGringo]

There could be very solid reasons why it hasn't happened but bumping KOGO's power up has always seemed like a good idea. The station already has some regular listeners in LA, its not unreasonable to think that a much stronger signal in that direction could make it as much a presence there as KFI has always been here. And if there are reasons why such a bump hasn't happened...as they say, I am all ears.

The main reason is that LA and San diego are separate markets. While KFI may get a couple of bonus points by saying, "and you get Riverside and San Diego for free, out of market coverage is generally not of any sales value. The main reason today to raise power is to saturate the home market with a signal tha tovercomes the noise and interferance levels, not to add adjacent markets to the coverage.

In any case, KOGO could likely not increase coverage to the norht, as there are other 600's they have to protect, as well as 590 in the IE and 610 in the Antelope Valley.

 

[Lopaka]

Good answer, thanks.
Still, if I ran the station I'd bump it up, get the best signal I could into LA.

 

[ajhenderson]

5kW on 600 is plenty powerful. What are you talking about?

"If I were running KFI, I'd move it to Tijuana and bump it up to 1 MILLION WATTS!!" You just can't decide when to get a power upgrade...

 

[zumahans]

Of course, the Old Gabacho would say that a 1 megawatt KFI in Rosarito would not technically be in the LA market, even though it would light up flourescent bulbs all the way to Paso Robles.

 

[OldGringo]

Of course, the Old Gabacho would say that a 1 megawatt KFI in Rosarito would not technically be in the LA market, even though it would light up flourescent bulbs all the way to Paso Robles.

.... if it were in Rosarito, BCN, México, it would be XEKFI, and be a Mexican station.

I only know of a couple of stations whose transmitters are in different countries than the "license" and none are in the Western Hemisphere. A couple of obvious ones are Vatican Radio, which is in Italy, and Radio Monte Carlo which is in France. There are a couple of others, too.

 

[mteran5]

5kW on 600 is plenty powerful. What are you talking about?

"If I were running KFI, I'd move it to Tijuana and bump it up to 1 MILLION WATTS!!" You just can't decide when to get a power upgrade...

If they did move to Tijuana they wouldn't be allowed even to increase to 50kw to protect a 640 in Chihuahua Mexico they are better off in good old L.A.

 

[OldGringo]

5kW on 600 is plenty powerful. What are you talking about?

"If I were running KFI, I'd move it to Tijuana and bump it up to 1 MILLION WATTS!!" You just can't decide when to get a power upgrade...

If they did move to Tijuana they wouldn't be allowed even to increase to 50kw to protect a 640 in Chihuahua Mexico they are better off in good old L.A.

Good point, and there are two stations in the same state on 640, one in Parral and the other in Juárez... although both are supposed to protect the 750 mile KFI night contour (but don't)

 

[mteran5]

5kW on 600 is plenty powerful. What are you talking about?

"If I were running KFI, I'd move it to Tijuana and bump it up to 1 MILLION WATTS!!" You just can't decide when to get a power upgrade...

If they did move to Tijuana they wouldn't be allowed even to increase to 50kw to protect a 640 in Chihuahua Mexico they are better off in good old L.A.

Good point, and there are two stations in the same state on 640, one in Parral and the other in Juárez... although both are supposed to protect the 750 mile KFI night contour (but don't)

The 640 in Juarez goes off the air at night to protect the Parral station, in San Diego it is interesting to listen to KFI and the Parral, Juarez station at the same time but that might change when KFI goes back to 50kw rather that the temporary 25kw.