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whats yo least favorite sports talk show
- Thread starter djfrresh
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Colin is arguably the most well informed and soon to be the most successful sports talk host in America.
A tie between JT the Brick and Stephen A. Smith.
Hands down Jim Rome's schtick wore off 10 years ago.
Local sports talk-wise, it's hands down, Tony Rizzo and Aaron Goldhammer on WKNR-AM in Cleveland. It's not bad enough that Rizzo (who is the main sports anchor for the local Fox affil) sounds apathetic and ill-prepared during the course of the show, it's that Goldhammer is somehow liked by station management (in part because his father is close friends with the station owner's family) even though his act wore out three years ago.
Goldhammer somehow insists on playing teeny-bopper pop music as bumpers, even though it is a midday show (going after the 12-18 female dropout demo, I take it) and that tactic bled over to most of their other shows. If it was current rock or hip-hop, I'd understand that. But we're talking pop artists like Ke$ha, Jay Sean, Kris Allen, Boys Like Girls, Lady Gaga, Iyaz and Fergie/Black Eyed Peas. Only, and I repeat ONLY Tony Bruno can play up-tempo current music as bumpers and get away with it.
Their staged fights are so ill-contrived and phony, it's saddening to listen to. Plus they have a "prize goddess" who is of the "famous for being famous" category: she looks hot, but is beyond inept behind the microphone. She dropped a cursory word towards homosexuals coming out of a break, but was inexplicably not disciplined - Goldhammer threw a hissy fit himself and pulled the program director into that mess, who clearly did NOT want to be on-air. But the telling sign was... no one gave a lick of protest to either the girl or towards the station.
Those that bothered to listen to those two fill in for Jim Rome twice (!!!), my most sincere humblest of apologies. I'd even venture that even the worst shows in Washington, DC or LA (a la 'PMS' or the Mike Lamb/Joey Harrington snooze-fest) are 200% better than this schlock.
Goldhammer somehow insists on playing teeny-bopper pop music as bumpers, even though it is a midday show (going after the 12-18 female dropout demo, I take it) and that tactic bled over to most of their other shows. If it was current rock or hip-hop, I'd understand that. But we're talking pop artists like Ke$ha, Jay Sean, Kris Allen, Boys Like Girls, Lady Gaga, Iyaz and Fergie/Black Eyed Peas. Only, and I repeat ONLY Tony Bruno can play up-tempo current music as bumpers and get away with it.
Their staged fights are so ill-contrived and phony, it's saddening to listen to. Plus they have a "prize goddess" who is of the "famous for being famous" category: she looks hot, but is beyond inept behind the microphone. She dropped a cursory word towards homosexuals coming out of a break, but was inexplicably not disciplined - Goldhammer threw a hissy fit himself and pulled the program director into that mess, who clearly did NOT want to be on-air. But the telling sign was... no one gave a lick of protest to either the girl or towards the station.
Those that bothered to listen to those two fill in for Jim Rome twice (!!!), my most sincere humblest of apologies. I'd even venture that even the worst shows in Washington, DC or LA (a la 'PMS' or the Mike Lamb/Joey Harrington snooze-fest) are 200% better than this schlock.
worst are local shows from vermont to san diego and from seattle to miami.
second worst are most of the ad soaked espn shows. segments have shriveled to nada. remember when john clayton and tony bruno used to actually discuss topics, players and games. now its just bullet points to push numbers. the internal memos must be hilarious. the new fsr copy cat clock doesn't help. i heard chris landry squeezed into a short segment over the past weekend. really sad.
2010 isn't off to a great start sports radio wise
second worst are most of the ad soaked espn shows. segments have shriveled to nada. remember when john clayton and tony bruno used to actually discuss topics, players and games. now its just bullet points to push numbers. the internal memos must be hilarious. the new fsr copy cat clock doesn't help. i heard chris landry squeezed into a short segment over the past weekend. really sad.
2010 isn't off to a great start sports radio wise
There is one thing that sucks about all sports talk radio. The hosts are more concerned about being in your face personalities and try to be bigger than the events that they try to cover. There is nothing that any sports talk show host can tell me that I don't already know. One other thing is obvious. The main target of sport talk shows are less educated, blue collar workers. I don't think there are too many PHDs calling them up.
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bordeaux
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perhaps not calling , but listening. Never confuse the two. radio callers in general are the bottom end of the demo, poltics or sports. Busier people (read more successful) are not going to have time to wait on hold for 36 minutes.
But the 25-54 demo among men (sportstalks primary demo at most stations) is a money demographic.
If sportstalk is blue collar, what is a country music demo. How about the urban demo. Is that a high end income demo.
Sportsradio is fine. There's plenty of money to be had and the listeners are not Hank, working at the local Chevron.
But the 25-54 demo among men (sportstalks primary demo at most stations) is a money demographic.
If sportstalk is blue collar, what is a country music demo. How about the urban demo. Is that a high end income demo.
Sportsradio is fine. There's plenty of money to be had and the listeners are not Hank, working at the local Chevron.
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larnov
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Screaming A Smith and FSR with Vic The Brick Jacobs. Worst radio in history
Our local sports station is ESPN. They might take three callers a day. However many it is, it's not much. They have more SportsCenter hosts as guests than they do callers. That's even more boring than "in your face guy." Of course, I guess that would get boring quick too.
Every time Cowherd is mentioned, either yay or nay, by ESPN they smile. I'm convinced they don't care about the content of the shows, just that you're talking about them.
Otherwise, why would ESPN so often take a politically correct stance editorially, then subject us to a host that says he is a devout believer in stereotyping?
Personally, I disagree with the poster who said the worst show is any local show from Vermont to San Diego. True, there are some bad ones out there.
But ultimately this is where sports talk's heart lies. It's the ability of a host to rally the community to save a franchise from leaving, or to rally the troops for the support of a winner.
It's the way we get a coach fired, or the way a coach can be deified even with modest accomplishments (usually because he's good to the media).
What I think is bad sports talk is when I can't figure out what Jim Rome is saying because he has so many slang words, codes, and inside references that trying to listen to his program is like trying to follow Zippy the Pinhead (now- THERE'S a reference!).
What I think is bad sports talk is ESPN's complete self-promotion and often times hypocritical political slants.
What I think is bad sports talk is David Stein's "Winner Winner! Chicken Dinner!"
What I think is bad sports talk is the local host who has his audience believing the local high school coach should get a shot at coaching the major Division I in the area, or being afraid to ask any local figures tough questions.
What I think is bad sports talk is 24/7 Tiger Woods coverage at the expense of what is going on locally. What I think is bad sports talk are rainy day topics in the face of interesting topics going on right now.
What I think is bad sports talk is cliches instead of research, letting a caller who should have been cut off ramble on, or, for that matter, being rude for rudeness' sake.
I also still believe in caller interaction. I know that's being shied away from and callers are more difficult to get in the age of message boards, but never taking calls takes you away from the audience.
Otherwise, why would ESPN so often take a politically correct stance editorially, then subject us to a host that says he is a devout believer in stereotyping?
Personally, I disagree with the poster who said the worst show is any local show from Vermont to San Diego. True, there are some bad ones out there.
But ultimately this is where sports talk's heart lies. It's the ability of a host to rally the community to save a franchise from leaving, or to rally the troops for the support of a winner.
It's the way we get a coach fired, or the way a coach can be deified even with modest accomplishments (usually because he's good to the media).
What I think is bad sports talk is when I can't figure out what Jim Rome is saying because he has so many slang words, codes, and inside references that trying to listen to his program is like trying to follow Zippy the Pinhead (now- THERE'S a reference!).
What I think is bad sports talk is ESPN's complete self-promotion and often times hypocritical political slants.
What I think is bad sports talk is David Stein's "Winner Winner! Chicken Dinner!"
What I think is bad sports talk is the local host who has his audience believing the local high school coach should get a shot at coaching the major Division I in the area, or being afraid to ask any local figures tough questions.
What I think is bad sports talk is 24/7 Tiger Woods coverage at the expense of what is going on locally. What I think is bad sports talk are rainy day topics in the face of interesting topics going on right now.
What I think is bad sports talk is cliches instead of research, letting a caller who should have been cut off ramble on, or, for that matter, being rude for rudeness' sake.
I also still believe in caller interaction. I know that's being shied away from and callers are more difficult to get in the age of message boards, but never taking calls takes you away from the audience.
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larnov
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But ultimately this is where sports talk's heart lies. It's the ability of a host to rally the community to save a franchise from leaving, or to rally the troops for the support of a winner.
It has been almost 40 years but one example was on WWWE Cleveland, Host Peter Franklin got the whole city in a frenzy to bring White hanky's into the Old Cleveland Stadium and get about 80,000 fans to cheer for the Indians and Boo the yankees.
Even though I am a Yankee fan and was about 16 at the time I thought it was really cool to hear this and see the result.
It has been almost 40 years but one example was on WWWE Cleveland, Host Peter Franklin got the whole city in a frenzy to bring White hanky's into the Old Cleveland Stadium and get about 80,000 fans to cheer for the Indians and Boo the yankees.
Even though I am a Yankee fan and was about 16 at the time I thought it was really cool to hear this and see the result.
oakas said:
I don't think there's any doubt that JT's close friendship with late FSR VP/GM Andrew Ashwood allowed him to hang around as long as he has. With Ashwood gone now, JT's days are numbered.
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