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What's your opinion: Selling Airchecks on EBay?

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MattBAA

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Ok guys...here's the topic of the week...what's your opinion on selling airchecks on Ebay? I know it's done, especially by a trader banned here, and others of course.

This is certainly the time of year that we can all use some extra money, and selling on Ebay is certainly an easy way to do it.

I ask this since I am considering doing it, but have not made a final decision yet. Then again, we could all do this as a group and all make some extra money. The combinitions are enough to boggle the mind!

Have a safe and fun weekend.<P ID="signature">______________

Co/Moderator: New York,Miami,Airchecks,Classic Radio and Where Are They Now?</P>
 
Hi Matt. We can still be friends if you sell airchecks on ebay. :)

I've actually purchased some airchecks off of there from a guy selling tapes as he transfers them to cd. I have no problem with that. In fact, I got 40 discs for $25.

Obviously, people can decide not to buy if the price isn't right. But selling single airchecks for $10 bucks plus shipping just doesn't seem right to me.
 
> Hi Matt. We can still be friends if you sell airchecks on
> ebay. :)
>
> I've actually purchased some airchecks off of there from a
> guy selling tapes as he transfers them to cd. I have no
> problem with that. In fact, I got 40 discs for $25.

Wow, That's not bad!
>
> Obviously, people can decide not to buy if the price isn't
> right. But selling single airchecks for $10 bucks plus
> shipping just doesn't seem right to me.

I don't know if you guys saw this, but there were some Bwana Johnny airchecks, reel to reels and cassettes, from his personal collection and estate for sale which ended today. I bid on one set myself and was high bidder until about 15 minutes before the sale ended, then someone outbid me by over $25.00 (I wasn't going any higher than my original) so he could have saved some bucks. This was the first time I had ever bid for airchecks on e-bay even though I hear about them for sale on there from time to time.

As far as selling on e-bay goes... I guess I don't have a problem with it but I don't think I'd care to do it myself.
 
Matt,

I don't know how I feel. In general, I really don't mind the idea of selling. However, I might be a little taken aback if I saw my originals being put up for sale. Yet, on the other hand, are they really mine?? I don't think so. Plus, my originals are likely being sold in a private sale anyway. So, I think it's fair.

Yet, if I started seeing airchecks that I was posting up here on yousendit.com for free being sold, I think I would end up halting my uploads. Trading for something else, sure, but discontinuing free airchecks. I might also second think trading with someone if I knew that their sole purpose was to resell my airchecks. This would not be the case with you because I know that you would love and enjoy them yourself before they got sold. But, I can't say that with everyone.

Now can it be worth your time? If 40 aircheck cds go for $25, I frankly feel it's a waste of time and energy for very little money. How much does it cost for the blanks, the envelopes, etc? But only you can decide where the worthwhile point would be.

I was just thinking that posting airchecks to Ebay might actually be a good thing. I am sure that there are a lot of people out there who have no clue that airchecking exists and would flip to find airchecks of stations that they grew up with. And for that matter, there are enough people who don't want to trade, but simply want to listen.

You get my approval Matt... with the caveats I mentioned above.

John
 
> Matt,
>
> I don't know how I feel. In general, I really don't mind
> the idea of selling. However, I might be a little taken
> aback if I saw my originals being put up for sale. Yet, on
> the other hand, are they really mine?? I don't think so.
> Plus, my originals are likely being sold in a private sale
> anyway. So, I think it's fair.
>
> Yet, if I started seeing airchecks that I was posting up
> here on yousendit.com for free being sold, I think I would
> end up halting my uploads. Trading for something else,
> sure, but discontinuing free airchecks. I might also second
> think trading with someone if I knew that their sole purpose
> was to resell my airchecks. This would not be the case with
> you because I know that you would love and enjoy them
> yourself before they got sold. But, I can't say that with
> everyone.
>
> Now can it be worth your time? If 40 aircheck cds go for
> $25, I frankly feel it's a waste of time and energy for very
> little money. How much does it cost for the blanks, the
> envelopes, etc? But only you can decide where the
> worthwhile point would be.
>
> I was just thinking that posting airchecks to Ebay might
> actually be a good thing. I am sure that there are a lot of
> people out there who have no clue that airchecking exists
> and would flip to find airchecks of stations that they grew
> up with. And for that matter, there are enough people who
> don't want to trade, but simply want to listen.
>
> You get my approval Matt... with the caveats I mentioned
> above.
>
> John
>
I started this thread because of what happened with the Bwanna Johnny Airchecks. The funny thing is, the first time you sell them could be the last! Think about it...the person you sold them to could turn around and make copies and sell them for less than you sold them for!

I'm not saying I'm going to do this like our friend Dave does. I have enough in my own collection that I could sell for a long time without touching stuff I've traded for in recent memory. At the very least, if I sold John's original 99X aircheck, I'd split it with him. To take without giving isn't right, and if the core members of this board/trading circle decided to do it together, we could make some nice money selling to non-traders/collectors that would like to relive part of their lives.

Imagine someone born in NY that lives in CA and misses certain things from their childhood...bagels...lol...imagine selling NY bagels on Ebay! I would imagine that WABC, WNBC, 99X, and any other classic NY radio station airchecks would fly to sometime like that for $10 a CD. How about the CA native living in NY that misses KHJ, KRTH or KTNQ? I have a ton of that stuff, and I know you guys have it too.

So let's think about this, and see where it takes us. Watch you emails for ideas. Thanks for the input! Matt<P ID="signature">______________

Co/Moderator: New York,Miami,Airchecks,Classic Radio and Where Are They Now?</P>
 
As some of you know, I have a strong bias TOWARD Capitalism. There are people who benefit from aircheck sales.

The seller

and

Buyers:

People who do not want to bother with trading. Some people who love old radio or old formats are too busy making money or taking care of family or personal affairs and do not have time to trade. Others are not into dubbing things and just want to play airchecks in the car. Selling airchecks benefits these people.


Some people have a lot of money but do not have the time or patience to dub airchecks to trade.

If there is someone who wants to pay, then he needs to know what he is buying and what the quality is. If all the information is given, then no one is being hurt by a sale.

The only theoretical party being hurt is the radio station that owns the copyright, but they do not usually mind airchecks.

When the internet started, I lost a few people that I traded with, especially someone in Australia who I received some great airchecks from. But I accept progress. Ebay sales will not reduce the pool of airchecks to trade nearly as much as the websites with airchecks. I am just stating a fact here, I am not against any of these.

I am for ebay sales and any other way that people can make money with airchecks.
Trading is fine too. Some people are not into doing that.

The Capitalist has spoken.



> Ok guys...here's the topic of the week...what's your opinion
> on selling airchecks on Ebay? I know it's done, especially
> by a trader banned here, and others of course.
>
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[email protected]</P>
 
> Ok guys...here's the topic of the week...what's your opinion
> on selling airchecks on Ebay? I know it's done, especially
> by a trader banned here, and others of course.
>
> This is certainly the time of year that we can all use some
> extra money, and selling on Ebay is certainly an easy way to
> do it.
>
> I ask this since I am considering doing it, but have not
> made a final decision yet. Then again, we could all do this
> as a group and all make some extra money. The combinitions
> are enough to boggle the mind!
>
> Have a safe and fun weekend.
>
If someone is willing to bid on it its all good.<P ID="signature">______________

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Dead Against It

I have always been against selling airchecks. I'm not in this for the money at all. I do it because I enjoy it and I have a love for radio.

Why should you be making money from something from somebody elses work? If you want to charge $3 for the CD and postage, then thats ok as you are covering costs.

As a jock, if I found someone to be selling my airchecks and making money from it, I wouldn't be too impressed. In fact I would be lodging a complaint against that user to Ebay. Plus, there are copyright issues that you need to look at. What you are selling is recorded music. Sure, we all trade full airchecks on the net here, but we don't make money from it. If you are to dub and sell a full unscoped aircheck with the songs in full, then you should be expected to pay the royalties too.

Just my two cents worth.
 
I don't like to sell or buy airchecks......i would rather stick to trading..

> > Ok guys...here's the topic of the week...what's your
> opinion
> > on selling airchecks on Ebay? I know it's done, especially
>
> > by a trader banned here, and others of course.
> >
> > This is certainly the time of year that we can all use
> some
> > extra money, and selling on Ebay is certainly an easy way
> to
> > do it.
> >
> > I ask this since I am considering doing it, but have not
> > made a final decision yet. Then again, we could all do
> this
> > as a group and all make some extra money. The combinitions
>
> > are enough to boggle the mind!
> >
> > Have a safe and fun weekend.
> >
> If someone is willing to bid on it its all good.
>
 
> I don't like to sell or buy airchecks......i would rather
> stick to trading..
>
Same here<P ID="signature">______________

</P>
 
> > Hi Matt. We can still be friends if you sell airchecks on
>
> > ebay. :)
> >
> > I've actually purchased some airchecks off of there from a
>
> > guy selling tapes as he transfers them to cd. I have no
> > problem with that. In fact, I got 40 discs for $25.
>
> Wow, That's not bad!
> >
> > Obviously, people can decide not to buy if the price isn't
>
> > right. But selling single airchecks for $10 bucks plus
> > shipping just doesn't seem right to me.
>
> I don't know if you guys saw this, but there were some Bwana
> Johnny airchecks, reel to reels and cassettes, from his
> personal collection and estate for sale which ended today. I
> bid on one set myself and was high bidder until about 15
> minutes before the sale ended, then someone outbid me by
> over $25.00 (I wasn't going any higher than my original) so
> he could have saved some bucks. This was the first time I
> had ever bid for airchecks on e-bay even though I hear about
> them for sale on there from time to time.
>
> As far as selling on e-bay goes... I guess I don't have a
> problem with it but I don't think I'd care to do it myself.
>
I recall someone was selling scoped MP3 discs of KXRX'S last day on the air. One of the former personalities found out about this and told Ebay & the seller to end the auction. If someone sells scoped airchecks of themselves, that shouldn't be an issue, or if someone charges for only the cost of the tape, CD, or MD and postage that shouldn't be an issue. If someone(other than the personality or the station) is making a profit, then there's a problem. Just my $0.02 worth.<P ID="signature">______________
"I look out for me and mine."-Capt. Malcom "Mal" Reynolds in Serenity</P>
 
Hi Folks:

I bought one from an Ebay seller for $10. It miffed me to pay it, but this aircheck was very special to me and I'd been looking for it for decades ... it was a shift where I was the board op at CKLW in 1970.

It was well worth the ten bucks for me to end the 30 yr search for that material.

Regards,
Lee Smith
 
> Ok guys...here's the topic of the week...what's your opinion
> on selling airchecks on Ebay? I know it's done, especially
> by a trader banned here, and others of course.

I have to say my own views mostly parallel Neal123 below. I work in the radio business, and would not appreciate somebody selling an aircheck of myself for personal gain (beyond materials, i.e. media, mailing) ... of course, that's deluding myself that anyone would <u>want</u> to buy an aircheck of me. :)

I can't believe no one else besides Neal123 has addressed the sleeping lion in this den: in the case of unscoped airchecks, you're violating the copyright laws on unauthorized selling of recorded music. And we all know how lenient and laid-back the RIAA has been about that...

Yes, I've bought airchecks on several occasions, mostly from the usual suspects, i.e. California Aircheck, Man From Mars, etc. Surely they've covered all the bases on music licensing, since a number of those airchecks are unscoped.

I totally understand the argument about folks who don't have time to trade and/or those who just want a certain aircheck without being in this hobby. In those cases, I don't object to make-whole charging for tapes or CDs and postage.

Collecting airchecks is fun. While I'm a capitalist myself, I don't want to muddy up the waters dealing with $$. To each their own, but I vote NO.

--Russell W.

PS - As for "banned trader", his output tends to be sub-par in quality. If I buy airchecks, I want a professionally done product. Ed Brouder and others of his ilk provide just that.
 
what i AM Confuzed about ::::

is why is there a big-a-la-ba-Lou : )
about selling them ?? it is on a free service,
the radio, and it is on a medium ( tape/cd) that
is easy to record onto; so, why are soo many
shocked that airchecks, are taped/sold ?!

if u luv it, u already have a stack taped..
sooo, if u have a stack, and some one has a stack,
it's logical there is a supply/demand...only thing
that strikes me as odd..is the -reason- behind selling 'em..
it's more fun to trade : )

but i am not shocked..
 
> what i AM Confuzed about ::::
>
> is why is there a big-a-la-ba-Lou : )

Wasn't that the name of the nightclub where Ricky Ricardo worked? [g]

> it is on a free service,
> the radio, and it is on a medium ( tape/cd) that
> is easy to record onto; so, why are soo many
> shocked that airchecks, are taped/sold ?!

See my first post: unscoped airchecks contain RECORDED MUSIC. Whether a multigen 'check of an AM signal, or a clean off-the-board recording, it's still a complete song. Would the RIAA care? Maybe not. But maybe. Personally, I'm not going to @#$% with an organization that sues kids.

> it's more fun to trade : )

I totally agree. :)

--RW
 
You want to sell an aircheck of me on E-Bay?

Go for it.

I don't mind at all.
 
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