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Wheatnet-IP, which VoIP phone system?

This might be a question for Kelly Parker, who wrote this article:

http://www.rwonline.com/article/dark-fiber-extends-reach-of-aoip/220794

The article mentions a VoIP phone system working seamlessly with the Wheatnet-IP system.

I'm guessing that's not Telos since the Telos gear uses Livewire and AFAIK,
the two AoIP protocols are incompatible (by choice of these competing companies).

If there is a broadcast-capable VoIP phone system speaking natively with Wheatnet-IP,
it would be good to know the brand, model and details.

Catfish
 
Ah okay, Telos Vx then. It makes sense of course. The Vx was built for the large market stations. I misread the article. I thought the VoIP phone system was connected natively to the Wheatnet-IP system.

Unless Telos is now speaking Wheatnet or Wheatstone is now speaking Livewire (both pretty unlikely think), the only way I know to connect the Vx to Wheatnet would be through Telos adapters and Wheatstone blades.

Quite a bit of expensive hardware just to get audio in and out of the consoles. Phones to network to adapter to blade to network to console. Of course, those clients using Axia consoles are able to plug the Vx directly into the console network with neither adapter nor node/blade. But this client preferred the Wheatstone boards.

I'll be glad when this proprietary war of network protocols fades. Soon the AES will approve the work we started several years ago to have a true industry-standard network audio protocol. Final draft is out for comments now.

http://www.aes.org/standards/comments/drafts/aes67-xxxx-130729-cfc.pdf

Cooperation between competitors in the audio industry has always been difficult (other industries such as television and film appear much more open to "coopetition"). So this third party AES protocol will make it possible for competitors to interoperate without promoting their competition's recipe. This will be good for the industry.
 
netcaster said:
Ah okay, Telos Vx then. It makes sense of course. The Vx was built for the large market stations. I misread the article. I thought the VoIP phone system was connected natively to the Wheatnet-IP system.

Unless Telos is now speaking Wheatnet or Wheatstone is now speaking Livewire (both pretty unlikely think), the only way I know to connect the Vx to Wheatnet would be through Telos adapters and Wheatstone blades.

Quite a bit of expensive hardware just to get audio in and out of the consoles. Phones to network to adapter to blade to network to console. Of course, those clients using Axia consoles are able to plug the Vx directly into the console network with neither adapter nor node/blade. But this client preferred the Wheatstone boards.

Fortunately, all that hardware wasn't necessary. Clear Channel Portland had an old Axia node that they connected to the Vx. They simply ran a cable between the WNIP Blade and the old node as a fast and easy way to exchange GPIO between the WheatNet and the Voip. There's not much more to it than that, but I'm sure Chris and the guys at Clear Channel Portland will be able to fill you in.
 
DeeMcVicker said:
netcaster said:
Ah okay, Telos Vx then. It makes sense of course. The Vx was built for the large market stations. I misread the article. I thought the VoIP phone system was connected natively to the Wheatnet-IP system.

Unless Telos is now speaking Wheatnet or Wheatstone is now speaking Livewire (both pretty unlikely think), the only way I know to connect the Vx to Wheatnet would be through Telos adapters and Wheatstone blades.

Quite a bit of expensive hardware just to get audio in and out of the consoles. Phones to network to adapter to blade to network to console. Of course, those clients using Axia consoles are able to plug the Vx directly into the console network with neither adapter nor node/blade. But this client preferred the Wheatstone boards.

Fortunately, all that hardware wasn't necessary. Clear Channel Portland had an old Axia node that they connected to the Vx. They simply ran a cable between the WNIP Blade and the old node as a fast and easy way to exchange GPIO between the WheatNet and the Voip. There's not much more to it than that, but I'm sure Chris and the guys at Clear Channel Portland will be able to fill you in.

You're right Dee, not so bad. I was imagining a larger system and multiple nodes and blades for audio and GPIO. Sounds like this was fairly painless. I'll bet in another year, interoperability will be possible and we'll be discussing the nuances of advertising and control. Let's hope.
 
DeeMcVicker said:
Fortunately, all that hardware wasn't necessary. Clear Channel Portland had an old Axia node that they connected to the Vx. They simply ran a cable between the WNIP Blade and the old node as a fast and easy way to exchange GPIO between the WheatNet and the Voip. There's not much more to it than that, but I'm sure Chris and the guys at Clear Channel Portland will be able to fill you in.

If I am not mistaken the old Clear Channel studios before they moved into the Wheatnet plant had an AXIA console at least for one of the stations.
 
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