When 2 networks (like for example, TNT and Rogers) do the same game (like this year's Jets-Blues game 7) do they share the same feed, or do they both do different productions? for example while the camera shots might be the same, the announcing team might be different (Kenny Albert, Eddie Olczyk, Brian Boucher on TNT, Harnarayan Singh, John Garrett on CBC). I know back in the day, the 2 networks would do different shows for those audiences. Although there was a case where TNT had to use the CBC feed for part of a Canadiens-Capitals game (John Bartlett, Garry Galley) due to technical issues. I'd imagaine the Rogers feed would be a backup just in case or the RSN feed.
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When 2 networks show the same game....
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It's complicated and varies depending on the broadcasters.
Let's take a Stanley Cup Final game. You'll have three major outlets (American, Canadian English, Canadian French). Each will have its own mobile unit (or units) at the arena. (Rare these days is the network that actually owns the trucks, by the way. They're nearly all leased.)
There are only so many camera positions in an arena. The lead play-by-play camera (usually called the "follow" camera because it follows the puck as a wide shot from center ice) will be shared by all. Who actually runs the camera often depends on where the game is played. But it's shared. Some other cameras are also shared for replay purposes, but the follow and the others are all fed into the separate trucks and all are available to the individual directors at all times. The NHL supplies the over-the-net cameras for replays of pucks on the goal line.
Each outlet also has a number of cameras to itself. These unilateral cameras are also used for replays, bench closeups, and so on. The audio is also complicated, usually matched to the camera on air at the time.
There are also international (non-North America for NHL) feeds. Those broadcasts have fewer cameras of their own and take a feed from a major outlet for the most part.
Once upon a time, when local telecasts of the final were allowed through the early 90s, and there were two Canadian rightsholders in each language, it was even more involved. The Canadian rightsholders essentially alternated, but a Final Game 7 would mean CBC, SRC, CTV/Global, TVA, ESPN and potentially two U.S. local outlets would all be in the arena. Seven feeds of one game. You can see why cameras were shared. (There were five or six originations of the 1971 Stanley Cup Final Game 7 in Chicago: CBS, CBC, SRC, Hughes, which may have been originated by WSBK Boston, and the Blackhawks theater TV feed produced by WGN).
A regular-season or early-round playoff broadcast may only have a couple of trucks (home and road), but the follow camera and a few others is still shared.
Prior to the rise of cable telecasts, a road team would be assigned a single camera for cutaway shots if the home team was televising (usually Canada, New York or Boston). There would be a single truck, and an associate director, while listening to the home team director and road team announcer (and in contact with the road team's station control room on a separate phone line), would cut to the road camera going to commercial or when the home team would put up graphics for the next game, etc. In those days, intermissions were handled back at the studio. The road camera would shoot the scoreboard clock so the station would know when to cut back to the arena.
Let's take a Stanley Cup Final game. You'll have three major outlets (American, Canadian English, Canadian French). Each will have its own mobile unit (or units) at the arena. (Rare these days is the network that actually owns the trucks, by the way. They're nearly all leased.)
There are only so many camera positions in an arena. The lead play-by-play camera (usually called the "follow" camera because it follows the puck as a wide shot from center ice) will be shared by all. Who actually runs the camera often depends on where the game is played. But it's shared. Some other cameras are also shared for replay purposes, but the follow and the others are all fed into the separate trucks and all are available to the individual directors at all times. The NHL supplies the over-the-net cameras for replays of pucks on the goal line.
Each outlet also has a number of cameras to itself. These unilateral cameras are also used for replays, bench closeups, and so on. The audio is also complicated, usually matched to the camera on air at the time.
There are also international (non-North America for NHL) feeds. Those broadcasts have fewer cameras of their own and take a feed from a major outlet for the most part.
Once upon a time, when local telecasts of the final were allowed through the early 90s, and there were two Canadian rightsholders in each language, it was even more involved. The Canadian rightsholders essentially alternated, but a Final Game 7 would mean CBC, SRC, CTV/Global, TVA, ESPN and potentially two U.S. local outlets would all be in the arena. Seven feeds of one game. You can see why cameras were shared. (There were five or six originations of the 1971 Stanley Cup Final Game 7 in Chicago: CBS, CBC, SRC, Hughes, which may have been originated by WSBK Boston, and the Blackhawks theater TV feed produced by WGN).
A regular-season or early-round playoff broadcast may only have a couple of trucks (home and road), but the follow camera and a few others is still shared.
Prior to the rise of cable telecasts, a road team would be assigned a single camera for cutaway shots if the home team was televising (usually Canada, New York or Boston). There would be a single truck, and an associate director, while listening to the home team director and road team announcer (and in contact with the road team's station control room on a separate phone line), would cut to the road camera going to commercial or when the home team would put up graphics for the next game, etc. In those days, intermissions were handled back at the studio. The road camera would shoot the scoreboard clock so the station would know when to cut back to the arena.
during the NFL pre season, some areas will get the same game on 2 different station with different announcers
I hear this more whenever it's between RSN's and National cable channels. This is especially true for some games like the Local Sports Channels like NBC Sports Bay Area would air Golden State Warriors games as local rights and at the same time national networks like ESPN would sometimes air the same game as part of its national contract with the NBA. Yes I mean NBC Sports Bay Area and ESPN would in some cases simulcast the same game with the Warriors for different reasons and how the NBA schedule goes when it comes to two networks airing the same game.
I remember in my big dish days, when i'd watch a game on CBC and Fox or ESPN, the camera shots would be different expect for the lead play-by-play camera (usually called the "follow" camera because it follows the puck as a wide shot from center ice). But both networks would do their own commentary (my example, would be 1995 Canucks-Blues game 5, CBC had Don Wittman and Greg Millen, ESPN had Tom Mees and Darren Pang) and use different shots when play was not live.
How about when the Olympics take place Peacock has the raw IOC feed which may sometimes not have announcers in some cases or the announcers are from the IOC itself, While NBC Sports includes some of the announcers from the network when the US Olympic team is involved. I seen some events where whenever team USA is not included such as Boxing the announcers are from the IOC when I saw the event via Peacock.
Used to happen a lot with college football back in the 80s/90s before the networks wanted exclusivity. I remember ABC doing a Ohio State-Minnesota game in 1989, but the Columbus PBS station (owned by OSU) showed the same game but with different announcers/graphics.
This happened in 1994 with a USC/Notre Dame game when ABC lost power but not Prime Ticket (which was taping the game to air that same night). ABC's producer actually ran to the Prime Ticket truck to coordinate their pictures with Keith Jackson, who was calling the game using a telephone audio line. Kind of what happened this year when TNT had to use CBC feed for part of a Canadiens-Capitals game (John Bartlett, Garry Galley) due to technical issues. TNT at least was smart to let the CBC guys do the call during that period.
This happened in 1994 with a USC/Notre Dame game when ABC lost power but not Prime Ticket (which was taping the game to air that same night). ABC's producer actually ran to the Prime Ticket truck to coordinate their pictures with Keith Jackson, who was calling the game using a telephone audio line. Kind of what happened this year when TNT had to use CBC feed for part of a Canadiens-Capitals game (John Bartlett, Garry Galley) due to technical issues. TNT at least was smart to let the CBC guys do the call during that period.
…or 3 different stations with different announcers. That is the case tonight (8/16). It’s NYG @ NYJ, and the game at Met Life Stadium will be carried on NBC4 (WNBC), CBS2 (WCBS-TV) and in Spanish on Telemundo47 (WNJU).
I remember in 1987, when the Blue Jays and Tigers played a late season game in Detroit, you had NBC doing the game with Bob Costas and Tony Kubek, but the Tigers originated their own telecast (i wonder why that was allowed) with George Kell and Al Kaline that aired in Detroit only. The Sunday game there, ABC had the national feed with Al Michaels, Jim Plamer and Tim McCarver, but the Tigers also did their own telecast too and CTV covered it as well in Canada. I remember a Yankees/A's game in 88 where ABC sent Gary Bender and Joe Morgan there, but the Yankees aired their own telecast on SportsChannel NY (only because ABC was going to show the Mets game) but the Mets game was canceled so WABC showed the Yankees game too.