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When automation fails...

But how else could we have known that Paul McCartney was dead? :D

But you are forgetting the "inside start" electrical transcriptions of the 30's even to the 60's. On glass or aluminum core "acetates", many ETs were distributed labeled "inside start" and played from the center outwards.

"Standard 16-inch transcription discs of the 1930s and 1940s usually held about 15 minutes of audio on each side, but this was occasionally pushed to as much as 20 minutes. Unlike ordinary records, some were recorded inside out, with the start of the recording near the label and the end near the edge of the disc. The label usually noted whether the disc was "outside start" or "inside start". If there was no such notation, an outside start was assumed."

In the mid-60's I used to get ETs from McCann-Ericson with their ad buys. Some were inside start even then... but recorded on 12" blanks, not 16" ones. Usually, though, they were outside start, and had the same commercial 4 to 6 times on the disk so that as the first cut wore out, stations would play the second or later cut. Of course, I had cart machines but nobody else did then.
 
We used to use the 14" reels. Sometimes a rewind would throw tape all over the room and need to be spliced. Somehow the tape would end up reversed.... Somewhere in the middle. So no issues for the first few hours, then every third song backwards... Great radio...
 
When all format syndication was via tape, most syndicators shipped reels "tails out". That meant that the station would load the full reel on the right hand hub, and rewind to an empty reel on the left, thread the tape and hit play until the start of tape tone cued it.

Untrained operators would load the tape on the left side, which of course meant that it would play backwards.
I heard a sermon playing backwards and too slowly on a tiny AM daytimer a few years ago, at night:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SllJu0-tXuI

I suspected it was a prank, as their engineer at the time would do strange things like that when he didn't get paid or his check bounced.
 
Yep, the CBS Radio Networks tone. I heard it many years ago one Sunday morning on KGA Spokane, and I think they were just getting into the sports format. There was also a night where 1040 CKST Vancouver aired a Westwood One test channel all night long after NFL or NBA.

We didn't have that problem when we ran ESPN on the AM, but one morning I came in at 5:30 and the AM was running some farm report. I discovered the automation was still on the Chicago Cubs channel (we were an affiliate) and they were feeding WGN. So we had been running WGN on the AM from the time the game ended (say 10:30pm) until 5:30am. Apparently the Cubs network didn't run the proper end of game cue, or our automation system somehow missed it.

One morning I came in (in July) and the hot AC FM was running Christmas music. Turned out it was a syndicated Christmas show we had run the previous holiday. I'm not sure why it hadn't been deleted from the computer, and we couldn't figure out how it got on the air rather than what was on the log.
 
One morning I came in (in July) and the hot AC FM was running Christmas music. Turned out it was a syndicated Christmas show we had run the previous holiday. I'm not sure why it hadn't been deleted from the computer, and we couldn't figure out how it got on the air rather than what was on the log.

This is a very common problem. The computer is accessing a location. If the automation doesn't delete and replace the previous week's AT40, for example, listeners will hear the same countdown again.
 
The older Scott Studios automation systems had a default playlist, that would load up and play if the machine couldn't find a valid commercial/music log for that day. The end user could create their own default, but the "stock" default log loaded in the system had a Christmas tune scheduled about every third or fourth song. So if you heard Christmas music playing on your station out of season, you knew there was a problem with that day's log.

Those of us whose job it is to install and maintain these contraptions have seen just about every failure mode and stupid trick they can do, but still sometimes we get surprised.
 
Syndicated music shows often have locally voicetracked station IDs done in the network DJ's voice, which they start with every time the DJ comes on mic. So sometimes I've heard stations on which those local fill-ins were not being played, so at the end of a song there would be a long pause and then the network DJ would come on and start talking in the middle of a sentence.
 
It would have been funny if the sermon was preaching against backward masjing in music! :rolleyes:
Even funnier if it had been on a dollar-a-holler station. Maybe it was! Still better than anything on WCTA! (I listened to it, and it did NOT sound like Bro. Stair! (Although, playing so slowly, it could have been.))

My own contribution to this thread is not nearly as good, but I suspect that KYTN (about 20 years ago, so under different ownership and management than now) once ran promos for their overnight syndicated program (rather than the actual program itself) apparently all night long! I listened for only a few minutes, noticed the repetition, then turned it off.
 
This is a very common problem. The computer is accessing a location. If the automation doesn't delete and replace the previous week's AT40, for example, listeners will hear the same countdown again.
I'd wondered about this; many times I've heard a station run the same show 2 or 3 weeks in a row. I kept thinking, maybe the show is on CD and the new episode was lost in the mail? At one point I was recording Dr. Demento off of WLUP when they were running it at about 4am Sunday morning. (The Dr. must have been proud!) Right before the station quit running the show I seem to recall the same episode being played for 4 weeks straight.

WAAI/WTDK a couple years ago, both with lots of automation at the time (and all automated now) went through a period where the station id and a local spot were ALWAYS about 20 seconds late, so over the music. I kept asking myself, doesn't ANYONE at the station actually listen? I think I even emailed the PM but never got a response.

And then, nothing to do with automation in most cases, the common case of someone playing the records out of sequence on AT40, Lee Arnold, ACC, The Comedy Show...take your pick!
 
That's a pretty good one. Was that when they were a CHR format at the time? Any air checks of the SLO market stations back then?
 
KSBZ/103.1, Sitka, AK used to be horrendous about dead-air spots and similar errors. I wish I had recordings of them.
 
I didn't listen long enough to find out more details but WKQC Charlotte NC is all-Christmas. So how does "Hold the Line" by Toto fit? Probably doesn't. In any sense of the word.
 
I didn't listen long enough to find out more details but WKQC Charlotte NC is all-Christmas. So how does "Hold the Line" by Toto fit? Probably doesn't. In any sense of the word.

I've heard WHJT Clinton, MS run an entire church Christmas cantata at the wrong speed several years ago. WJNT Jackson, MS goes to dead air numerous times a night during "Red Eye Radio" It's been going on for over a year. I once heard a live broadcast of a stadium being blown up in Atlanta from WSB Atlanta on WSLI in Jackson, MS. The WSLI simulcast was actually was few seconds earlier than the WSB broadcast. WSLI signed off at midnight back in those days. Never had figured out why they were simulcasting WSB in the middle of the night. I've heard numerous goofs over the years. WLRM in Jackson, MS used to feed it's AM transmitter with a radio tuned to the FM sister. If the FM station went off the air the radio would retune to the nearest station on the dial which was WMSI FM a competitor. Sometimes the competing station would be heard on AM for several hours before anyone noticed it. I once heard a glitch on the same station in which a European dance station replaced the stations regular music. It went for several days before anyone fixed it.
 
i'm not sure if this counts as a automation fail or not, but yesterday morning, during a call in interview on KRLD-FM 105.3 The Fan in Dallas, Dallas Cowboys ownerJerry Jones said bulls*** twice while discussing his teams loss to the Chicago Bears on Thursday Night Football and how the season has turned into a really bad one with the delay managing to left the cuss intact (i'm not sure if the radio station version of 105.3 aired it uncensored or not, but i know the stream on Radio.com managed to air it uncensored) and the the system automatically hung up on Jerry Jones while in mid interview. it was a embrassing moment for Jerry Jones who is dealing with the stress of getting the team to stay in the playoff hunt after going 6-7 and maybe on the brink of firing head coach Jason Garrett.
 
i'm not sure if this counts as a automation fail or not, but yesterday morning, during a call in interview on KRLD-FM 105.3 The Fan in Dallas, Dallas Cowboys ownerJerry Jones said bulls*** twice while discussing his teams loss to the Chicago Bears on Thursday Night Football and how the season has turned into a really bad one with the delay managing to left the cuss intact (i'm not sure if the radio station version of 105.3 aired it uncensored or not, but i know the stream on Radio.com managed to air it uncensored) and the the system automatically hung up on Jerry Jones while in mid interview. it was a embrassing moment for Jerry Jones who is dealing with the stress of getting the team to stay in the playoff hunt after going 6-7 and maybe on the brink of firing head coach Jason Garrett.

Profanity deletes are manual. They have to be "punched out" by the person running the board on a show.

Since profanity rules don't apply to web streams, what you heard may have been dumped by the studio for the on-air feed.

The system likely did not hang up by itself. While AI is advancing, it can't determine whether the person on the air has gotten rude or offensive or abusive. A person does that.
 
Our "Local" Air1 station KTCZ-HD2/K249ED didn't cue the ID at the right time once, by the time it cued, the ID was airing over the "The New Air1" liner.
 
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