When is it too early for Christmas music?

[Silkie]

No one says a new Bieber or Taylor Swift song is now a classic.

That's the difference between Beach Boys or other oldies or classic rock - they were classics the minute they came out, and they proved their staying power. Bieber and Swift got stuck in the rotation. Swift is already a has been at music awards, and Bieber does not have staying power.

 

[carolinaradio]

As we speak, "Pumped Up Kicks" is making the rounds at Mainstream AC stations that haven't switched to Christmas.

That may be because AC's that don't go all-Christmas may tend to lean more Hot AC/aggressive towards new music.

 

[imhomerjay]

That's the difference between Beach Boys or other oldies or classic rock - they were classics the minute they came out, and they proved their staying power.

I get that those stuck in the past think there was some special magic back then. There wasn't. Those weren't somehow bestowed with the designation of classic. Like everything else, it took time, which makes it no different than songs by today's artists.

 

[Silkie]

Guess we'll just have to wait 45 years to see if anybody is still playing them.

 

[oldies76]

I get that those stuck in the past think there was some special magic back then. There wasn't. Those weren't somehow bestowed with the designation of classic. Like everything else, it took time, which makes it no different than songs by today's artists.

When hearing Christmas music in general, (stores, radio, malls, restaurants...etc..) the classics (40's thru 80's) are mainly featured. Sure some newer acts are mixed in (like Beiber, Carey or Buble), but you mainly hear the classics...why?? Because nearly everyone is familiar when them, since they have been played for years. It has nothing to do with living in the past, it called music from the past, enduring the "test of time". 50 years from now, you'll still hear Bing's "White Christmas", a 110+ year old song by then.

If Beiber's "Mistletoe" is proven a classic, 20 years from now, then great...you'll hear that song and others along with the many pre-1980 classics then too. It's simply called "good music" and good music will last forever.

 

[andrewduong77]

Don't be surprise next year when all AC stations flipped back to their regular programming, AC stations will be playing Justin Bieber's "Baby" hard and it will be an AC hit of 2012.

And by 2042, Justin Bieber's "Baby" will be played on Oldies/Classic Hits stations including CBS popular Classic Hits stations KLUV/DFW, KRTH/LA, WOCL/Orlando, WCBS-FM/NYC as a greatest hit of all times.

Please don't believe in what I said above, I just made all of the theory above up for fun, it won't happen! Justin Bieber will never crossover into the Hot AC or AC format not unless he came up with a really good and soft song that fits the Hot AC or even the AC format well like Miley Cyrus' "The Climb". Most of my friends in college who listen to CHR hates Justin Bieber to death. Look at how many "dislikes" he get compare to how many "likes" he get on his "Baby" music video on YouTube. So speaking of how well Justin Bieber will test in the 25-54 audience or the AC format, he even failed to test his own peers 12-24, lol.

 

[crainbebo]

Oh no...don't want to hear Pitbull and 50 Cent on classic hits radio in 40 years

Not much of the older (55+) crowd knows about Justin Bieber, or his new X-Mas song. IMO, any classics or even "The Christmas Shoes" by NewSong, which some people have bashed about, is better than hearing ANY Bieber.

-crainbebo

 

[Silkie]

I watched the music video of Mistletoe. I was not impressed. It reminds me of another prefab deal in which someone is living vicariously through some kid who just ain't feelin' it.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zh42Z3BSuEw&feature=related

Sorry, had the wrong one in there.

 

[imhomerjay]

Comical to see the "logic" here. Does anyone even understand how the business works?

 

[oldies76]

Comical to see the "logic" here. Does anyone even understand how the business works?

Sure we do, but we also LISTEN to the radio, like everyone else.

 

[andrewduong77]

My college friends like pop artists like Katy Perry and Lady Gaga and they are decent pop artists, but even though no matter how serious they loved pop, they still hated Justin Bieber to death, and this guy at my school said "Justin Bieber is terrible! He can't sing!"

So speaking of how well Justin Bieber will the test the 25-54 audience or the AC format, he even failed to test the audience of his own peers 12-24, lol!

 

[imhomerjay]

Yes, because that qualifies as a stastically reliable sample based on sound methodology.

 

[firepoint525]

Even if you don't like Bieber's music, you've got to hand it to him for the way he fought off that bimbo who accused him of fathering her child!

 

[andrewduong77]

I agree, and I think Bieber could successfully crossover to the Hot AC format or even the AC format if he come up with a really soft and good song. If you remember back then when everyone thinks Miley Cyrus the "Hannah Montana" from Disney is totally overrated, she actually made a successful crossover to the AC format with her single "The Climb" the movie soundtrack from "Hannah Montana: The Movie". Plus, Miley was barely 16 at the time her single "The Climb" became an AC hit. Bieber could successfully crossover to the AC format like Miley if he can come up with a really soft song that fits the AC format well. I thought "Mistletoe" may be one for the Christmas format on AC's, but not close enough and it will eventually be off by the 26th when Christmas is over and all AC stations returned to their regular programming.

 

[vchimpanzee]

Well, stuff from Josh Groban, Michae Buble and Harry Connick, Jr are good for the all-Christmas format. But Justin Bieber's "Mistletoe" is not good to play on an AC all-Christmas station, even though it mentions winter and X-Mas. Bieber is a teen and twenty-somethings idol, not really for 25-54 (maybe for 25-30, that's it). Playing Bieber's Mistletoe on a Hot AC or CHR sprinkled with the usual is fine for me, not all-out AC christmas.

-crainbebo

Merely mentioning Christmas does not make it acceptable as "Christmas music" even on AC. And I have no use for AC versions of the traditional songs.

As of Saturday, my gocery store had two Christmas songs while I was in there. Only they weren't. All that pounding does not a Christmas song make. If you're only playing that much Christmas music, then please start with the good stuff that people know.

 

[imhomerjay]

Merely mentioning Christmas does not make it acceptable as "Christmas music" even on AC.

Actually, it pretty does exactly that.

And I have no use for AC versions of the traditional songs.

Riveting. Meantime, the rest of the world does.

 

[oldies76]

Riveting. Meantime, the rest of the world does.

What rest??? Everywhere you go, you hear the classics, mixed with some current A/C's. Our store unfortunately has a station on (which we cannot control) Muzak Holiday Pop and nearly everyone who works there has negative opinions on the mix that they are hearing (mainly 1990's onward). Last year, the classics aired in our store and staff enjoyed them. They are disappointed that very few FAMILIAR classics are even played this year. So this "idea" that the "rest of the world" enjoys continuous AC remakes of traditionals is just hot air. Maybe you and your 12-18 world enjoys them.

 

[vchimpanzee]

Merely mentioning Christmas does not make it acceptable as "Christmas music" even on AC.

Actually, it pretty does exactly that.

And I have no use for AC versions of the traditional songs.

Riveting. Meantime, the rest of the world does.

And I have evn less use for new AC songs that are supposedly about Christmas.

 

[andrewduong77]

Speaking of Justin Bieber on the Christmas/AC format, what happened to Miley Cyrus? She still have "The Climb" going on AC till now, but ain't she gonna cover any Christmas songs at all? Justin Bieber covered "Mistletoe" and "Santa Claus Is Coming To Town".

 

[firepoint525]

Speaking of Justin Bieber on the Christmas/AC format, what happened to Miley Cyrus? She still have "The Climb" going on AC till now, but ain't she gonna cover any Christmas songs at all? Justin Bieber covered "Mistletoe" and "Santa Claus Is Coming To Town".

Miley Cyrus has covered Brenda Lee's tired old "Rockin' Around the Christmas Tree" (on volume 13, I think it was, of A Very Special Christmas), but good luck getting radio to play it, for two reasons:

1) They are still fixated on Brenda Lee's original version.

2) They apparently aren't even aware that any subsequent volumes of A Very Special Christmas were ever released, because they only seem to play from volume 1.