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WHEN WILL ENTERCOM MAKE THE MOVE?
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Reception: there's what a Walkman can get but also consider car radios, home, etc You may have better luck with those. When people started talking about 97.7 as a poss. home for EEI, I tried it in my car at places like Endicott St Danvers, Rt 62 Beverly...it did come in. A Walkman or an mp3 player or portable HD radio which has FM might do well dep. on the brand.
With all the electronics around, AM or even FM recep. can get jammed, but esp. AM and as has been said some people have FM only on their mp3 players-with-radio (the HD radio port. would give you EEI, BZ, or poss 1200 via sub-signals but who knows if you'd get them if you aren't close to town)
As for 50kW signals that might be abandoned with a move to FM, they could be sold perhaps even to
outfits in town like Greater or CBS or CC if they think money could be made with who knows what
format. Ha, if RKO moved to FM, Jeff Santos could buy 680 for a song and put prog talk on
Or Entercom could keep it and run oldies--RKO on FM does talk while 60s, 70s, 80s oldies go on
The Big 68
With all the electronics around, AM or even FM recep. can get jammed, but esp. AM and as has been said some people have FM only on their mp3 players-with-radio (the HD radio port. would give you EEI, BZ, or poss 1200 via sub-signals but who knows if you'd get them if you aren't close to town)
As for 50kW signals that might be abandoned with a move to FM, they could be sold perhaps even to
outfits in town like Greater or CBS or CC if they think money could be made with who knows what
format. Ha, if RKO moved to FM, Jeff Santos could buy 680 for a song and put prog talk on
Or Entercom could keep it and run oldies--RKO on FM does talk while 60s, 70s, 80s oldies go on
The Big 68
As for the RKO programming idea, Entercom pays Howie big money. They would want 4 hrs out of him.
6-7 pm, you want a local host for all the listeners still stuck in their cars. You want Howie's local issues, not Mr Borders-Lang.-Culture.
Perhaps after fall '12, IF Howie moves to 96.9 or 1200 (longshot but who knows), then you could have poss. Savage at 6 but I'd still think they'd want whomever is doing pm drive--McPhee?--to stay on till 7. They make money for a highly rated (or so so) local host, not so much for a syndie host.
Would you like your boss to cut your pay? That's what RKO would do by cutting off Howie's last hr.
They would lose money
6-7 pm, you want a local host for all the listeners still stuck in their cars. You want Howie's local issues, not Mr Borders-Lang.-Culture.
Perhaps after fall '12, IF Howie moves to 96.9 or 1200 (longshot but who knows), then you could have poss. Savage at 6 but I'd still think they'd want whomever is doing pm drive--McPhee?--to stay on till 7. They make money for a highly rated (or so so) local host, not so much for a syndie host.
Would you like your boss to cut your pay? That's what RKO would do by cutting off Howie's last hr.
They would lose money
no I wouldn't like that @Raccoonradio.
Yes, same here, yeah, driving around those areas, I can get 97.7. But on any walkman, new and old, it's not good reception. Maybe it comes in better from Revere to East Boston,
and from Savin Hill Dorchester to Braintree.
Or perhaps put Jen O'Brien on 7pm-9pm. That's another idea.
If they'd put Sports Talk on FM, they'd be smart to put "Sporting News Radio" on their overnights, as well as weekend overnights and different times on weekends, because they sound much more alive than ESPN Radio, and as some people suggested, put ESPN on 24/7 on 680am
Yes, same here, yeah, driving around those areas, I can get 97.7. But on any walkman, new and old, it's not good reception. Maybe it comes in better from Revere to East Boston,
and from Savin Hill Dorchester to Braintree.
Or perhaps put Jen O'Brien on 7pm-9pm. That's another idea.
If they'd put Sports Talk on FM, they'd be smart to put "Sporting News Radio" on their overnights, as well as weekend overnights and different times on weekends, because they sound much more alive than ESPN Radio, and as some people suggested, put ESPN on 24/7 on 680am
Jimmy128 said:
Across the country, 25-54 numbers have skyrocketed after news/talk stations have moved to FM. Those listeners are a lot more valuable to advertisers than the 65+ crowd that AM is becoming. The question, of course, is whether an AM station could make more money with an FM simulcast than the old FM format did. If yes, then launch simulcast, if no, then keep things the way they are.
Could Entercom legally do one or both of the following?
1) Run Stiles as an on-channel 107.3 booster for the main signal from Asnebumskit?
2. Add an on-channel 97.7 booster on the old "Channel 7" tower on Medford Hillside?
One issue is whether an on-channel booster for either station, would help or hurt. The other issue is, if the answer is "help," are the contours in the right places to meet FCC regs? Or would it be necessary (especially in #1) to reduce the power of the booster so much that it would, at best, accomplish nothing useful?
I have a hunch that Entercom may be trying to lobby the FCC to allow the use of on-channel boosters to extend the coverage of existing stations. I believe the current situation is that on-channel boosters are allowed only to fill-in coverage gaps created by terrain shadowing. Do FCC rules allow on-channel boosters to fill in coverage gaps created by strong signals that cause front-end overload in nearly all FM receivers?
And why must 97.7 remain licensed to Brockton? Changing the CoL would not leave Brockton without a radio station; 1460AM and 1410AM would remain licensed to Brockton.
1) Run Stiles as an on-channel 107.3 booster for the main signal from Asnebumskit?
2. Add an on-channel 97.7 booster on the old "Channel 7" tower on Medford Hillside?
One issue is whether an on-channel booster for either station, would help or hurt. The other issue is, if the answer is "help," are the contours in the right places to meet FCC regs? Or would it be necessary (especially in #1) to reduce the power of the booster so much that it would, at best, accomplish nothing useful?
I have a hunch that Entercom may be trying to lobby the FCC to allow the use of on-channel boosters to extend the coverage of existing stations. I believe the current situation is that on-channel boosters are allowed only to fill-in coverage gaps created by terrain shadowing. Do FCC rules allow on-channel boosters to fill in coverage gaps created by strong signals that cause front-end overload in nearly all FM receivers?
And why must 97.7 remain licensed to Brockton? Changing the CoL would not leave Brockton without a radio station; 1460AM and 1410AM would remain licensed to Brockton.
encarta95 said:
Something that would help simulcasting a lot would be to permit simulcasts to NOT simulcast the commercials. That would open up a lot of avails. Advertisers who wanted their commercials on both the AM and the FM would still have that option; they'd have to pay for it, however.
I suppose such an arrangement could make interpreting PPM shares more complicated; there would probably have to be rules on how simulcasting stations figured market shares or the FCC might force separate AM and FM reports from stations that simulcast the programming on AM and FM signals but simulcast the commercials only if the advertiser paid to have his commercials simulcast.
DanStrassberg said:
I'd think that, in either case, there would be large areas of multipath distortion in between both transmitters, in desired reception areas.
JIBGUY said:
Nothing happened to it, because there never was any such rule. The rule you're probably thinking of prohibited simulcasting more than 50% of the broadcast day beginning on 1/1/1967, which was repealed about 25 years later.
What I'd do (if I could)...
1. Buy WFNX and move it back to Medford with the antenna patterned to Boston.
2. Put WAAF on Both 97.7 and 101.7.
3. Move 107.3 back to Paxton.
4. Simulcast WEEI on 107.3 in mono.
Right now WFNX is basically a Rte. 128 station with very little coverage to the south or west. Putting it back on Medford changes it back to a Rte. 495 station.
1. Buy WFNX and move it back to Medford with the antenna patterned to Boston.
2. Put WAAF on Both 97.7 and 101.7.
3. Move 107.3 back to Paxton.
4. Simulcast WEEI on 107.3 in mono.
Right now WFNX is basically a Rte. 128 station with very little coverage to the south or west. Putting it back on Medford changes it back to a Rte. 495 station.
Eli Polonsky said:
I can't find my earlier post on this, but in it I asked whether using vertical polarization on the on-channel booster signals and horizontal polarization on the main signals wouldn't eliminate most of the multipath problems.
Also, I noted that 97.7 from a far-north location like Medford would require a DA aimed south to protect 97.5 in Dover NH. I also noted that there seems to be no reason why 97.7 must remain licensed to Brockton because Brockton still has two stations licensed to it (1460 and 1410). Thus, if the spacing between Medford and Dover worked out, it might be possible to just move WKAF from Great Blue hill to Medford. In theory, however, Great Blue Hill is a better location for a simulcast with 107.3 than is Medford. From Stiles, 107.3 protects 107.5 on Cape Cod. So if you look at the coverage map for 107.3 from Stiles, you see that the 60 dBU pulls back westward as you swing south. I think 107.3's 60 dBU from Stiles actually encloses Medford but misses a goodly chunk of the City of Boston.
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