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WHEN WILL NHL NEGOTIATIONS BEGIN?

When will negotiations for the new NHL TV contract in Canada begin? If CBC decides to renew, will they bid for French broadcasts on Radio-Canada? If TSN gets the rights will they keep it all to themselves? If Rogers gets it, will they allow different networks to broadcast the matches? And if Shaw gets it, will people have to pay more? And if Yahoo gets it, will they keep all the games online? These are very interesting questions that have to be answered in the next 12 months. Especially when Boston, Toronto and Montreal are fighting for their playoff lives.
 
I suspect the New Year's night Winter Classic and the Heritage Classic would be carried by whoever has the rights to the "Hockey Night In Canada" package.

Additional outdoor games?? That would be interesting.
 
mgsports said:
NBC in Canada.

There is no NBC in Canada. NBC might carry it, (Canadians would simply tune into The American NBC) but if CTV, City or CBC picks it up, NBC will most likely be blocked out by a sim sub.

Getting back to the original topic, I think we have to wait until the end of this season, at least, before any further information is available.
 
CBC will have to be creative to keep it.

Bettman has no love for Ron MacLean and has boycotted CBC since the 2010 Finals.

IF the CBC gets it expect Ron to be gone ( Cherry will most likely retire soon )

I expect Rogers to be the one willing to overpay.
 
Joe_Capitano said:
Yeziknoradio said:
...NBC will most likely be blocked out by a sim sub.

But wait, does Simultaneous (or Simulcast) Substitution apply when NBC and CBC are doing separate telecasts with their own crews?

Absolutely not, but for the outside games, it's usually only one crew.
CRTC regs dictate that a program must be 95% identical in order to be sim subbed.
 
A Bell/Rogers Plan?? (Was: Re: When Will NHL Negotiations Begin?)

TSN and CTV are both owned by Bell, so I think they and Rogers could try to go after all Canadian English-language NHL television rights (in partnership with the Toronto Maple Leafs' team-owned channel, Leafs TV).

And if Bell/Rogers /Leafs TV gets the complete Canadian NHL package, either in one joint deal or in separate deals, here's what I can see:

(1) Saturday-night doubleheaders, weekend playoff games (including all weekend playoff games of Canadian-based teams), and the Stanley Cup Finals move to CTV, keeping them on over-the-air TV. Each Canadian-based team would play every Saturday night of the regular-season, and those games would be on the CTV stations in those cities, with the "best" game going to neutral markets. Each Canadian-based team would get about 25 regular-season games regionally or nationally broadcast on CTV.

(2) TSN would continue some national mid-week games and mid-week playoff games, including all mid-week playoff games of Canadian-based teams. Each Canadian-based team might get ten regular-season games nationally broadcast on TSN.

(3) Rogers Sportsnets (except the one serving Metropolitan Toronto) would each regionally carry 32 regular-season games of the local NHL team. Sportsnet Ontario would get just 17 Leafs' games.

(4) In Toronto, Leafs TV would get 15 regular-season Maple Leafs' telecasts.

(5) And finally, each Canadian-based team would get 15 midweek games on local over-the-air TV. Except in Ottawa, these games would likely be on the City TV outlets, while in Ottawa, the CTV-2 outlet would show them.

Under this plan, every game of every Canadian-based NHL team would be broadcast locally in the team's home city. CTV would get the "Hockey Night In Canada" package (which might be re-named "Saturday Hockey Night" if they can't make a deal with the CBC to buy the "HNIC" trademark); local City TV (or in Ottawa, CTV-2) stations would get fifteen midweek games which would likely be far and away the most popular shows on those channels; TSN would continue to be the national cable home of the NHL in Canada and get more playoff games of Canadian-based teams; the various Rogers Sportsnets would (except for Toronto) each get 32 games; Leafs TV in Toronto would continue to carry live Leafs' games (15 of them).

And if more than one Canadian-based team is in an early-round playoff game at the same time? Put the "biggest" one on TSN, while the other game(s) would be shown locally on either Rogers Sportsnets or local over-the-air TV.
 
Re: A Bell/Rogers Plan?? (Was: Re: When Will NHL Negotiations Begin?)

Joseph_Gallant said:
TSN and CTV are both owned by Bell, so I think they and Rogers could try to go after all Canadian English-language NHL television rights (in partnership with the Toronto Maple Leafs' team-owned channel, Leafs TV).

And if Bell/Rogers /Leafs TV gets the complete Canadian NHL package, either in one joint deal or in separate deals, here's what I can see:

(1) Saturday-night doubleheaders, weekend playoff games (including all weekend playoff games of Canadian-based teams), and the Stanley Cup Finals move to CTV, keeping them on over-the-air TV. Each Canadian-based team would play every Saturday night of the regular-season, and those games would be on the CTV stations in those cities, with the "best" game going to neutral markets. Each Canadian-based team would get about 25 regular-season games regionally or nationally broadcast on CTV.

(2) TSN would continue some national mid-week games and mid-week playoff games, including all mid-week playoff games of Canadian-based teams. Each Canadian-based team might get ten regular-season games nationally broadcast on TSN.

(3) Rogers Sportsnets (except the one serving Metropolitan Toronto) would each regionally carry 32 regular-season games of the local NHL team. Sportsnet Ontario would get just 17 Leafs' games.

(4) In Toronto, Leafs TV would get 15 regular-season Maple Leafs' telecasts.

(5) And finally, each Canadian-based team would get 15 midweek games on local over-the-air TV. Except in Ottawa, these games would likely be on the City TV outlets, while in Ottawa, the CTV-2 outlet would show them.

Under this plan, every game of every Canadian-based NHL team would be broadcast locally in the team's home city. CTV would get the "Hockey Night In Canada" package (which might be re-named "Saturday Hockey Night" if they can't make a deal with the CBC to buy the "HNIC" trademark); local City TV (or in Ottawa, CTV-2) stations would get fifteen midweek games which would likely be far and away the most popular shows on those channels; TSN would continue to be the national cable home of the NHL in Canada and get more playoff games of Canadian-based teams; the various Rogers Sportsnets would (except for Toronto) each get 32 games; Leafs TV in Toronto would continue to carry live Leafs' games (15 of them).

And if more than one Canadian-based team is in an early-round playoff game at the same time? Put the "biggest" one on TSN, while the other game(s) would be shown locally on either Rogers Sportsnets or local over-the-air TV.

That may work. But what about French TV rights? Would Radio-Canada try to pursue them? What about RDS or TVA Sports?
Let me propose this to you:
I'll bet that there'll be a deal with RDS & TVA sports splitting the difference on carrying 75-80% of the the regular season games with SRC Radio-Canada airing coverage mostly on weekend afternoons and evenings.
The 3 RDS networks and TVA would carry the Bulk of the playoff coverage with weekend games, as well as the finals, on Radio-Canada. If the Canadiens are in the playoffs, Radio-Canada would air the Habs with the RDS and TVA Sports handling the rest of the games.
What do you think?
 
I think CBC might still win the rights to the French coverage if they are allowed to bid on that alone, depending on how high the actual bidding for french rights actually goes.
 
It's certainly possible that CBC could win all rights to English and/or French NHL games and then sell-off games other than Saturdays or the playoffs to cable sports networks or perhaps even local TV stations in each of the seven Canadian markets with NHL teams for a few (up to 15) midweek games of each team.

The CBC would likely be able to recoup a substantial part of their rights fees (perhaps two-thirds?) by doing this.
 
Joseph_Gallant said:
It's certainly possible that CBC could win all rights to English and/or French NHL games and then sell-off games other than Saturdays or the playoffs to cable sports networks or perhaps even local TV stations in each of the seven Canadian markets with NHL teams for a few (up to 15) midweek games of each team.

The CBC would likely be able to recoup a substantial part of their rights fees (perhaps two-thirds?) by doing this.
Or the bidding ends up just like it is now, only for more money. Why don't we all just wait and see?
 
tvnut said:
Yeziknoradio said:

And the only CBC show in the top 20, with the late game No. 21. And only four CBC shows in the top 30. Thus the need to keep Hockey Night; otherwise, where do the ad dollars come from?

I'm more worried about City TV! Sure, maybe Rogers is acting as a sports business, perhaps with revenue pouring in from all their Sportsnets, but CITY TV used to have tons of shows in the top 30!!! Now they're down to only TWO!!!
 
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