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WHEN WILL WMIB FLIP?
- Thread starter yourboy151
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You will not see another dance station, especially one skewed to a younger demo. 93.9MIA is supposed to be appeasing the older demo.
The Beat I think if it does flip would go to a Traditional Talk, which I've been reading is what Clear Channel is planning to do with some of their FMs. That doesn't mean they will try the "FM Talk " Format that is in Palm Beach and Orlando. I wouldn't count out a WIOD Simulcast as a possibility. I think they would do the simulcast before they would do a talk format with new programming.
The Beat I think if it does flip would go to a Traditional Talk, which I've been reading is what Clear Channel is planning to do with some of their FMs. That doesn't mean they will try the "FM Talk " Format that is in Palm Beach and Orlando. I wouldn't count out a WIOD Simulcast as a possibility. I think they would do the simulcast before they would do a talk format with new programming.
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strangelove
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It again begs the question, why don't we have an FM talker yet? It seems like Miami/Ft. Lauderdale is the only major market without one.
Come on this is Miami, Why did WINZ not work ?
Walking into most businesses you never here talk radio on, And this shows in the ratings, Clear Channel top rated station in Miami is a disco/ todays hit station. 939 mia
My whole point is 103.5 is waste of a station....HOT 105 has that formate on lock... 103.5 has been twinkin there formate for the past 2 years lol
my 2 cents is.... Electro 103 Todays Dance
Walking into most businesses you never here talk radio on, And this shows in the ratings, Clear Channel top rated station in Miami is a disco/ todays hit station. 939 mia
My whole point is 103.5 is waste of a station....HOT 105 has that formate on lock... 103.5 has been twinkin there formate for the past 2 years lol
my 2 cents is.... Electro 103 Todays Dance
strangelove said:
New York does not have one. LA does not have one. Chicago does not have one. Philly does not have one. DC does not have one (they do have all news and PBS, though). San Francisco does not have one (well they have a news station and a PBS talker). Detroikt has sports talk on FM, but no talker. Houston does not have one. Dallas does not. In fact, al but a pair of the markets larger than Miami do not have FM talkers.
strangelove said:
Here in Atlanta we don't have one, and don't want one.
Poor 103.5 The BEAT. What a great station in the beginning blazin' South Florida with Hip-Hop and R&B. What in the hell happened? If I remember correctly, the ratings were great at the beginning and the battle with 99 JAMZ had begun! I'm no ratings and revenue genius, but I think the station tanked when Clear Channel added Star and Bucwild in the mornings. At that time, they were still Hip-Hop as an Urban mainstream. When Clear Channel dumped Star and Buc, Clear Channel decided to go with there own Steve Harvey Morning Show. Now Steve's audience is the Urban AC crowd and I believe this is what lead CC to flip 103.5 to Urban AC. I'm sure the Miami market doesn't have that big of a 25-54 African American audience to support both HOT 105 and 103.5 The Beat playing R&B and Classic Soul. Now, they've flipped back to playing current Hip-Hop and R&B, but they are playing way too many R&B songs trying to still compete with HOT 105. I think the gas is running out, but I've been saying this for 2 years now and CC is still hanging on.
IMO, I'd say go back to a Hip-Hop powerhouse and spice up Miami. Play the real Miami bass that rocked Florida and of course today's big Hip-Hop hits. Miami is a big Hip-Hop city and supporting local artist will also help big time. Between 99 JAMZ and POWER 96, neither station plays a lot of real Hip-Hop music. Now when I say real Hip-Hop I don't mean Rhythmic Pop artist. I'm talking TI, Gucci Mane, Three Six Mafia and Young Jeezy. The Hip-Hop from the South. The R&B is killing 103.5 THE BEAT and Miami isn't a big R&B city. HOT 105 handles R&B just fine and so does 99 JAMZ at times. Come on Clear Channel, hit the streets and find out the truth about what I'm talking about since you're trying to hold on to the Urban audience.
strangelove said:
Miami isn't the only major Florida market without an FM talker. Tampa Bay does not have Talk Radio on FM although in my professional opinion there is definate room for one in that market.
It's only a matter of time before Talk Radio will find its way to the FM dial in Miami/Fort Lauderdale. Most likely it will start out as a traditional news-talk format more commonly found on the AM band; possibly a simulcast of one of Miami's AM news-talk stations; possibly WIOD-AM. If it proves to be successful, the FM side will most likely be tweeked into a strictly FM Talker similar to Real Radio 104.1 WTKS-FM Orlando. It isn't a matter of "if" but rather a matter of "when" FM Talk will come to South Florida and the Miami/Fort Lauderdale market.
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strangelove
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my mistake, I obviously had the wrong impression.
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SauceOnSide
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I heard that Steve Harvey finished #16 in P25-54 in Miami/Ft. Lauderdale on WMIB in the latest ratings release (which doesn't include anything from Univision, so he's probably even lower than that). It seems that Tom Joyner has a strong hold on his audience (#1 P25-54 in that same release) but the struggles for Harvey in Miami/Ft. Lauderdale seem odd, especially since he has found success elsewhere in Florida.
Top ten P25-54 in order (no ratings as per R-I rules) and without the Univision stations:
1. WHQT - Tom Joyner
2. WLYF - Susan Wise
3. WFLC - Julie Guy and Tamara G
4. WHYI - Elvis Duran
5. WMGE - Mega 94.9
6. WMIA - Paul Cubby Bryant
7. WMXJ - Joe Johnson and Donna Davis
8. WEVR - Rickey Smiley
9. WBGG - Ron & Paul
10. WPOW - DJ Laz
Top ten P25-54 in order (no ratings as per R-I rules) and without the Univision stations:
1. WHQT - Tom Joyner
2. WLYF - Susan Wise
3. WFLC - Julie Guy and Tamara G
4. WHYI - Elvis Duran
5. WMGE - Mega 94.9
6. WMIA - Paul Cubby Bryant
7. WMXJ - Joe Johnson and Donna Davis
8. WEVR - Rickey Smiley
9. WBGG - Ron & Paul
10. WPOW - DJ Laz
WMIB has been going up against two heritage and very successful stations in 'EDR and Hot. A WIOD talk Simulcast would be best for CC... For budget purposes.
I would dispute the notion that Hot is a Heritage station. It hasn't been around long enough for that distinction...
ScottBurns said:
How long would Hot 105 need to exist before you would consider it as Heriatge? WHQT has been on the air for over 25-years after transforming from plush instrumental WYOR "Stereo 105". It's a matter of opinion. However, to me any radio station that has lasted 25+ years is considered heritage
Wow...I did not realize that it had been 25 years. I would agree with that number as a baseline needed to label a station "heritage." When I think of local heritage stations, WEDR would have come before Hot.
I agree WEDR is, indeed, a heritage radio station, and has been on the air much longer than WHQT. I believe the call letters on 99.1 have always been WEDR although it has had several early formats. In the early 70s WEDR was one of the first South Florida progressive rock stations before transforming to urban contemporary in the mid 70s.
Beautiful Music station WYOR transformed to urban/dance WHQT Hot 105 sometime around circa 1985 although I don't recal the exact date. The adult urban format came along much later on Hot 105.
Beautiful Music station WYOR transformed to urban/dance WHQT Hot 105 sometime around circa 1985 although I don't recal the exact date. The adult urban format came along much later on Hot 105.
jmtillery said:
The format changed when EZ Communications bought WYOR, they tried a Beautuful Music format as EZ 105. Then, with Bill Tanner (back recently from WASH) and Coleen Cassidy and some of the old Y 100 crew, they did a rhythmic format. After GM Chuck Goldmark fired Tanner, Bill moved over to launch Power 96. At that point, WQHT became more urban leaning, with things like the Quiet Storm with Freddie Cruz (formerly of WHTT) at night.
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strangelove
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According to the Sentinel Hot 105 debuted during the week of April 1, 1985.
I think if a station can last for two generations or more with the same format it qualifies as a heritage station, however simply having the same call sign for just as long can be considered heritage as well no matter the format. Ultimately, I think the level of consistent success a station has had over the years plays a huge part in calling it a heritage station.
I think if a station can last for two generations or more with the same format it qualifies as a heritage station, however simply having the same call sign for just as long can be considered heritage as well no matter the format. Ultimately, I think the level of consistent success a station has had over the years plays a huge part in calling it a heritage station.
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strangelove
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Whoops. It looks like it was in early January of 1985.
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