I noticed that there hasn't been a new thread posted on this board in the last 5 days. Seems like if we're not talking about Oldies on satellite, we're not talking about Oldies at all. I guess that must be a sign of the times. So at the risk of offending anyone, I'm going to talk about Oldies on satellite. Most Oldies fans, even if they don't have satellite, know that satellite has vastly expanded playlists. But they may not know about the "special" programming that satellite offers. For '50s/early '60s fans, XM's channel 5 offers four great special shows each week. Pink & Black Days is a good mix of music that was popular in the mid-south in the '50s and early '60s. Host Alex Ward really knows his stuff, and he has good presentation. Cool Bobby B's Doo Wop Shop, a syndicated show, is familiar to many Oldies fans. Bobby B reminds us of what radio used to sound like. Another XM exclusive is Rockabilly Road Trip. For fans of this music, Bruce Berenson does a great job of digging out some rare rockabilly songs. His presentation may be a litte weak, but his knowledge & style make up for that. Harlem, hosted by "Matt The Cat", offers listeners R&B music from the early '50s. It's a good source of music from the "birth of rock & roll". Matt also knows his stuff and does a great job. Shows are repeated several times a week.........check XM's channel 5 website for schedules.
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Work (hylitradio.com), school (finals comming up), and not much happening in the oldies world......
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Re: A few things of note in New Jersey!
WJRZ-FM climbs nicely at the shore, and WMTR, Morristown comes in #2 12+.
WJRZ-FM climbs nicely at the shore, and WMTR, Morristown comes in #2 12+.
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DougD
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No use posting since all things are settled. PDs (I mean advertisers) know best, not listeners.
Yep, sat. radio is where oldies are at now, at least real oldies.
There's not much chatter on this forum anymore because it's hard to argue with people that know everything. Their minds are made up.
It's the way they've always done it and no matter or how long someone points out that older listeners are the next big thing in terms of spending, wealth, etc., they don't want to hear it. They're too set in their ways. Nuttin's gonna change their minds. They'll keep that attitude until their business is hurt like cable did to TV.
Then it will be too late.
> I noticed that there hasn't been a new thread posted on this
> board in the last 5 days. Seems like if we're not talking
> about Oldies on satellite, we're not talking about Oldies at
> all. I guess that must be a sign of the times. So at the
> risk of offending anyone, I'm going to talk about Oldies on
> satellite. Most Oldies fans, even if they don't have
> satellite, know that satellite has vastly expanded
> playlists. But they may not know about the "special"
> programming that satellite offers. For '50s/early '60s
> fans, XM's channel 5 offers four great special shows each
> week. Pink & Black Days is a good mix of music that was
> popular in the mid-south in the '50s and early '60s. Host
> Alex Ward really knows his stuff, and he has good
> presentation. Cool Bobby B's Doo Wop Shop, a syndicated
> show, is familiar to many Oldies fans. Bobby B reminds us
> of what radio used to sound like. Another XM exclusive is
> Rockabilly Road Trip. For fans of this music, Bruce
> Berenson does a great job of digging out some rare
> rockabilly songs. His presentation may be a litte weak, but
> his knowledge & style make up for that. Harlem, hosted by
> "Matt The Cat", offers listeners R&B music from the early
> '50s. It's a good source of music from the "birth of rock &
> roll". Matt also knows his stuff and does a great job.
> Shows are repeated several times a week.........check XM's
> channel 5 website for schedules.
>
Yep, sat. radio is where oldies are at now, at least real oldies.
There's not much chatter on this forum anymore because it's hard to argue with people that know everything. Their minds are made up.
It's the way they've always done it and no matter or how long someone points out that older listeners are the next big thing in terms of spending, wealth, etc., they don't want to hear it. They're too set in their ways. Nuttin's gonna change their minds. They'll keep that attitude until their business is hurt like cable did to TV.
Then it will be too late.
> I noticed that there hasn't been a new thread posted on this
> board in the last 5 days. Seems like if we're not talking
> about Oldies on satellite, we're not talking about Oldies at
> all. I guess that must be a sign of the times. So at the
> risk of offending anyone, I'm going to talk about Oldies on
> satellite. Most Oldies fans, even if they don't have
> satellite, know that satellite has vastly expanded
> playlists. But they may not know about the "special"
> programming that satellite offers. For '50s/early '60s
> fans, XM's channel 5 offers four great special shows each
> week. Pink & Black Days is a good mix of music that was
> popular in the mid-south in the '50s and early '60s. Host
> Alex Ward really knows his stuff, and he has good
> presentation. Cool Bobby B's Doo Wop Shop, a syndicated
> show, is familiar to many Oldies fans. Bobby B reminds us
> of what radio used to sound like. Another XM exclusive is
> Rockabilly Road Trip. For fans of this music, Bruce
> Berenson does a great job of digging out some rare
> rockabilly songs. His presentation may be a litte weak, but
> his knowledge & style make up for that. Harlem, hosted by
> "Matt The Cat", offers listeners R&B music from the early
> '50s. It's a good source of music from the "birth of rock &
> roll". Matt also knows his stuff and does a great job.
> Shows are repeated several times a week.........check XM's
> channel 5 website for schedules.
>
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OldiesCat
Guest
well, now
There's room for the major networks AND cable programming. And, there's room for terrestrial and satellite radio.
Radio's reliance on 300 song playlists and liner card DJs has FINALLY begun to catch up to them, though I think it's way too early to declare satellite the victor (their listenership is still a very small fraction of AM/FM's.
For those so motivated, competition can be a good thing and, in this case, I think it is.
>
> It's the way they've always done it and no matter or how
> long someone points out that older listeners are the next
> big thing in terms of spending, wealth, etc., they don't
> want to hear it. They're too set in their ways. Nuttin's
> gonna change their minds. They'll keep that attitude until
> their business is hurt like cable did to TV.
> Then it will be too late.
>
>
> > I noticed that there hasn't been a new thread posted on
> this
> > board in the last 5 days. Seems like if we're not talking
>
> > about Oldies on satellite, we're not talking about Oldies
> at
> > all. I guess that must be a sign of the times. So at the
>
> > risk of offending anyone, I'm going to talk about Oldies
> on
> > satellite. Most Oldies fans, even if they don't have
> > satellite, know that satellite has vastly expanded
> > playlists. But they may not know about the "special"
> > programming that satellite offers. For '50s/early '60s
> > fans, XM's channel 5 offers four great special shows each
> > week. Pink & Black Days is a good mix of music that was
> > popular in the mid-south in the '50s and early '60s. Host
>
> > Alex Ward really knows his stuff, and he has good
> > presentation. Cool Bobby B's Doo Wop Shop, a syndicated
> > show, is familiar to many Oldies fans. Bobby B reminds us
>
> > of what radio used to sound like. Another XM exclusive is
> > Rockabilly Road Trip. For fans of this music, Bruce
> > Berenson does a great job of digging out some rare
> > rockabilly songs. His presentation may be a litte weak,
> but
> > his knowledge & style make up for that. Harlem, hosted by
>
> > "Matt The Cat", offers listeners R&B music from the early
> > '50s. It's a good source of music from the "birth of rock
> &
> > roll". Matt also knows his stuff and does a great job.
> > Shows are repeated several times a week.........check XM's
>
> > channel 5 website for schedules.
> >
>
There's room for the major networks AND cable programming. And, there's room for terrestrial and satellite radio.
Radio's reliance on 300 song playlists and liner card DJs has FINALLY begun to catch up to them, though I think it's way too early to declare satellite the victor (their listenership is still a very small fraction of AM/FM's.
For those so motivated, competition can be a good thing and, in this case, I think it is.
>
> It's the way they've always done it and no matter or how
> long someone points out that older listeners are the next
> big thing in terms of spending, wealth, etc., they don't
> want to hear it. They're too set in their ways. Nuttin's
> gonna change their minds. They'll keep that attitude until
> their business is hurt like cable did to TV.
> Then it will be too late.
>
>
> > I noticed that there hasn't been a new thread posted on
> this
> > board in the last 5 days. Seems like if we're not talking
>
> > about Oldies on satellite, we're not talking about Oldies
> at
> > all. I guess that must be a sign of the times. So at the
>
> > risk of offending anyone, I'm going to talk about Oldies
> on
> > satellite. Most Oldies fans, even if they don't have
> > satellite, know that satellite has vastly expanded
> > playlists. But they may not know about the "special"
> > programming that satellite offers. For '50s/early '60s
> > fans, XM's channel 5 offers four great special shows each
> > week. Pink & Black Days is a good mix of music that was
> > popular in the mid-south in the '50s and early '60s. Host
>
> > Alex Ward really knows his stuff, and he has good
> > presentation. Cool Bobby B's Doo Wop Shop, a syndicated
> > show, is familiar to many Oldies fans. Bobby B reminds us
>
> > of what radio used to sound like. Another XM exclusive is
> > Rockabilly Road Trip. For fans of this music, Bruce
> > Berenson does a great job of digging out some rare
> > rockabilly songs. His presentation may be a litte weak,
> but
> > his knowledge & style make up for that. Harlem, hosted by
>
> > "Matt The Cat", offers listeners R&B music from the early
> > '50s. It's a good source of music from the "birth of rock
> &
> > roll". Matt also knows his stuff and does a great job.
> > Shows are repeated several times a week.........check XM's
>
> > channel 5 website for schedules.
> >
>
Re: well, now
> There's room for the major networks AND cable programming.
> And, there's room for terrestrial and satellite radio.
>
> Radio's reliance on 300 song playlists and liner card DJs
> has FINALLY begun to catch up to them, though I think it's
> way too early to declare satellite the victor (their
> listenership is still a very small fraction of AM/FM's.
>
> For those so motivated, competition can be a good thing and,
> in this case, I think it is.
Radio has gotten a little more "creative" lately, at least some stations.
Competition should be interesting, but I believe terrestrial radio will still be strong for years to come.
> There's room for the major networks AND cable programming.
> And, there's room for terrestrial and satellite radio.
>
> Radio's reliance on 300 song playlists and liner card DJs
> has FINALLY begun to catch up to them, though I think it's
> way too early to declare satellite the victor (their
> listenership is still a very small fraction of AM/FM's.
>
> For those so motivated, competition can be a good thing and,
> in this case, I think it is.
Radio has gotten a little more "creative" lately, at least some stations.
Competition should be interesting, but I believe terrestrial radio will still be strong for years to come.
Re: A few things of note in New Jersey!
> WJRZ-FM climbs nicely at the shore, and WMTR, Morristown
> comes in #2 12+.
>
WMTR is a true oldies success story. They're a great station. Hats off to them!
I've never listened to WJRZ though. Are they real good?
> WJRZ-FM climbs nicely at the shore, and WMTR, Morristown
> comes in #2 12+.
>
WMTR is a true oldies success story. They're a great station. Hats off to them!
I've never listened to WJRZ though. Are they real good?
I'm listening to my own "jack" format with the mp3 I received for Christmas. The local jack station is a hodgepodge. So if I'm going to listen to a hodgepodge combination of songs, they might as well be the ones that I want to hear. So long, radio.
> I noticed that there hasn't been a new thread posted on this
> board in the last 5 days.
> I noticed that there hasn't been a new thread posted on this
> board in the last 5 days.
O
OldiesCat
Guest
true, true
Right. Cable came on in the early seventies and, last time I looked, every market in America has ADDED local TV stations and ABC/NBC/CBS haven't gone away. You listen to all the (self-serving) blather from O'Reilly and Hannity about Network Television dying, but how many people were watching "24" or will watch "Idol" or "Lost" this week compared to how many watch their entire networks for a full week? It ain't even close.
> Competition should be interesting, but I believe terrestrial
> radio will still be strong for years to come.
>
Right. Cable came on in the early seventies and, last time I looked, every market in America has ADDED local TV stations and ABC/NBC/CBS haven't gone away. You listen to all the (self-serving) blather from O'Reilly and Hannity about Network Television dying, but how many people were watching "24" or will watch "Idol" or "Lost" this week compared to how many watch their entire networks for a full week? It ain't even close.
> Competition should be interesting, but I believe terrestrial
> radio will still be strong for years to come.
>
Re: true, true
I'm not aware of any case where a cable show..even "The Sopranos" or "Sex in the City" has ever won its time slot..ore even beaten the lowest rated broadcast network show.<P ID="signature">______________
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OldiesCat
Guest
true
Yeah, kind of puts it in perspective. Radio has to stop having this inferiorty complex (to TV and newspaper in the past, now to Satellite and Net/iPods).
Even when those wackos like Rush or O'Reilly on their shows claim masses of audience as if the entire country is tuned into their shows- the REAL truth is that even at their highest audience levels, more than 97% of America is NOT watching nor listening to them.
> I'm not aware of any case where a cable show..even "The
> Sopranos" or "Sex in the City" has ever won its time
> slot..ore even beaten the lowest rated broadcast network show.
>
Yeah, kind of puts it in perspective. Radio has to stop having this inferiorty complex (to TV and newspaper in the past, now to Satellite and Net/iPods).
Even when those wackos like Rush or O'Reilly on their shows claim masses of audience as if the entire country is tuned into their shows- the REAL truth is that even at their highest audience levels, more than 97% of America is NOT watching nor listening to them.
> I'm not aware of any case where a cable show..even "The
> Sopranos" or "Sex in the City" has ever won its time
> slot..ore even beaten the lowest rated broadcast network show.
>
Re: true, true
> I'm not aware of any case where a cable show..even "The
> Sopranos" or "Sex in the City" has ever won its time
> slot..ore even beaten the lowest rated broadcast network
> show.
Back when it was at its height, "Trading Spaces" on TLC was beating network competition, but on Saturday nights, when the networks pretty much phone it in these days.
What cable has done is make the broadcast networks' audiences smaller than they used to be. They still rule the roost (and the three dinnerhour newscasts *and* the "NewsHour" on PBS combined have more viewers than O'Reilly, but they're all 55+ demos), but the roost isn't as big as it used to be.
The same could be said potentially about satellite vs. terrestrial. Satellite won't get rid of terrestrial completely, but it could dilute their audience and perhaps focus them on doing the things that satellite can't do--primarily by being local. But satellite isn't big enough yet to cause these changes and may not be for a few years yet, Howard Stern aside.
> I'm not aware of any case where a cable show..even "The
> Sopranos" or "Sex in the City" has ever won its time
> slot..ore even beaten the lowest rated broadcast network
> show.
Back when it was at its height, "Trading Spaces" on TLC was beating network competition, but on Saturday nights, when the networks pretty much phone it in these days.
What cable has done is make the broadcast networks' audiences smaller than they used to be. They still rule the roost (and the three dinnerhour newscasts *and* the "NewsHour" on PBS combined have more viewers than O'Reilly, but they're all 55+ demos), but the roost isn't as big as it used to be.
The same could be said potentially about satellite vs. terrestrial. Satellite won't get rid of terrestrial completely, but it could dilute their audience and perhaps focus them on doing the things that satellite can't do--primarily by being local. But satellite isn't big enough yet to cause these changes and may not be for a few years yet, Howard Stern aside.
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