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Where is KPSV-FM

MisterGort said:
Brett, You must have better eyes than I do -0R looking at some other station. KOKO has only one license for 6 KW + 100 meters HAAT (the main station) and an on channel booster in Fresno for 265 watts. Not 2,300 watts. The FCC data base shows no such station.

As for the "over-lapp", there will be no listenable interference of the two signals. At least - that is how it is intended to work.
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The CP was on radio-locator, and no my eyes must not be very good cause I can clearly see now that it had expired.

As far as "over-lapp" I have always understood that it doesn't matter with FM. What ever transmitter you are closer to is the one you will receive, so if both transmitters are playing the same thing at the same time the listener will notice nothing.

The booster is located on Valentine south of Neilsen. Funny I would have thought it would be farther east than that.
 
brettbutlerisok said:
MisterGort said:
Brett, You must have better eyes than I do -0R looking at some other station. KOKO has only one license for 6 KW + 100 meters HAAT (the main station) and an on channel booster in Fresno for 265 watts. Not 2,300 watts. The FCC data base shows no such station.

As for the "over-lapp", there will be no listenable interference of the two signals. At least - that is how it is intended to work.
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The CP was on radio-locator, and no my eyes must not be very good cause I can clearly see now that it had expired.

As far as "over-lapp" I have always understood that it doesn't matter with FM. What ever transmitter you are closer to is the one you will receive, so if both transmitters are playing the same thing at the same time the listener will notice nothing.

The booster is located on Valentine south of Neilsen. Funny I would have thought it would be farther east than that.
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Not true.. if you drive through an area where the main signal is a bit weak and the booster is kinda there.. you'll get a bunch of static.. it's not pretty sometimes.
 
MisterGort said:
KPSV-FM is now GONE. No antenna mounted on the AT&T tower south of Corcoran. Inside information says that the SVPC sent a letter to the FCC - on Friday, Aug. 9, 2013 requesting more time to construct station, because AT&T was working on the tower doing some sort of maintenace and that prevented mounting of the required DA antenna on the tower. No request noted in the FCC data. CP has expired.
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So why is there a construction permit granted on July 23, 2013?
It looks like this explains - original expiration date did not change with this filing.
 
Grant Date: July 23, 2013
Audio Division
Media Bureau
The authority granted herein has
no effect on the expiration date
of the underlying construction
permit
 
Overall, the percentage of Cps that are untenable has got to be way up there - better than 50%, no-doubt. Whether for new stations or changes to existing facilities.
 
Well - well - well. Bless my soul the FCC granted a 30 day extention of the CP - so that the SVPC and Common Frequency - of Davis, CA will have more time to get the station built.

Odds are still only 50-50. They still have no site lease on the tower yet. It will cost at least $ 50,000 to get this CP Built. The SVPC has no cash. All of the money is comming from the Common Frequuency Group in Davis, CA. The electric bill each month will be well over $ 600 a month and the site lease could cost as much as $ 4,000 per month. It is a Cellphone tower. That is the going price for most Cellphone towers these days. The station could only stay on the air for a very short time - before having to go silent. The odds are still against this CP from ever going on the air.

And the SVPC/Common Frequency may have mis-lead (lied) to the FCC. They requested an extention of the CP - based on the "fact" and statement that the owners of the tower where doing mantenance on the tower that prevented installing the required antenna system on the tower. No workers have been seen doing any work on the tower within the last month.
 
MisterGort said:
And the SVPC/Common Frequency may have mis-lead (lied) to the FCC. They requested an extention of the CP - based on the "fact" and statement that the owners of the tower where doing mantenance on the tower that prevented installing the required antenna system on the tower. No workers have been seen doing any work on the tower within the last month.
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*Is this some fact from FCC or just another one of your "dreams"? *
Or, perhaps you were actually camped out there 15 miles outside of Corcoran for the past month to see if anyone came around on behalf of SVPC/Common Frequency? Or, you checked some 'access log'? You mean to say they didn't check with you first? Hell, that's surely grounds for denial of a license right there!! lol
 
MisterGort said:
Well - well - well. Bless my soul the FCC granted a 30 day extention of the CP - so that the SVPC and Common Frequency - of Davis, CA will have more time to get the station built.

Odds are still only 50-50. They still have no site lease on the tower yet. It will cost at least $ 50,000 to get this CP Built. The SVPC has no cash. All of the money is comming from the Common Frequuency Group in Davis, CA. The electric bill each month will be well over $ 600 a month and the site lease could cost as much as $ 4,000 per month. It is a Cellphone tower. That is the going price for most Cellphone towers these days. The station could only stay on the air for a very short time - before having to go silent. The odds are still against this CP from ever going on the air.

And the SVPC/Common Frequency may have mis-lead (lied) to the FCC. They requested an extention of the CP - based on the "fact" and statement that the owners of the tower where doing mantenance on the tower that prevented installing the required antenna system on the tower. No workers have been seen doing any work on the tower within the last month.
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$4000?

Every single tower is different.. you can assess a "lease free" across the board for cellphone towers as a whole. I know alot of stations who don't even pay 1/4 that!!
 
Gort's SOP is basically picking on smaller and noncomm operators whom he doesn't deem "worthy" of a signal. Yet he's never disclosed his qualifications or industry credentials.
 
Hey Mo -- I deal in facts. Not pipe dreams and what if's. Maybe I have spoken directly to the owner of the property that the cell tower is located on. It is not that difficult to take a drive down to the site at any time. Give me a call - when you get there. I will come down there and give you a tour of the place. LOL
 
MisterGort said:
Hey Mo -- I deal in facts. Not pipe dreams and what if's. Maybe I have spoken directly to the owner of the property that the cell tower is located on. It is not that difficult to take a drive down to the site at any time. Give me a call - when you get there. I will come down there and give you a tour of the place. LOL
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you know, I don't claim to be an engineer- but I was allowed to join a group of engineers that toured the Sutro Tower a while back- quite an awesome experience for this special ed teacher that likes to play with radio stuff.
a cell tower 12 miles from Corcoran ?? hmmm I don't know ....
who gave you access to the place anyway?
 
1.) Mo - I met with the land owner. Nice guy. He tells me what is going on.
2.) A letter was hand carried to the FCC staff on Friday, Aug. 9, 2013.

As for why I report on this CP - I do not think that any person or group - that does not have the funds on hand to build and operate any type of radio service - should waste the FCC staffs time, energy or federal money. The SVPC admits it has no cash or funding of any type to build or operate this CP. It may get "on the air" but it will go right off the air - in very short time and be up for sale the next day.

I have several educational non-profit groups as clients. I have nothing against anyone, except someone that wastes the FCC time.
 
wb6asq said:
why do these people let thire CP's run out?
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A lot of applicants are "sold" a bill of goods on stations by scam artists that a station covers a major market but it does not. They think they can put the station on the air for cheap. The site rental alone is a big issue with few site owners. They could be a non profit group that has a lot of members and they cannot agree.
 
SomeRadioGuy said:
$4000?

Every single tower is different.. you can assess a "lease free" across the board for cellphone towers as a whole. I know alot of stations who don't even pay 1/4 that!!
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But this CP is for 25 kw. Assuming circular polarization, and no more than a 4 bay antenna on the cell tower (they might be limited to 2 baby) they are going to need 13 to 26 kw TPO, meaning a full size transmitter plus a rack and electrical. While $4 k may seem high, the cell phone operator is going to charge for power hookup, transmitter space (even if they put a prefab building or shed on the site) and the tower space, etc. In most urbanized areas, getting 177 feet of height is not cheap.

Then there is the issue of insurance. Tower space rental generally requires all kinds of liability and business interruption insurance to cover the tower's owner and other customers. And a licensee with no money, no means and no history is going to have a hard time qualifying for a lease and getting insurance. The utilities providers are going to want a significant deposit, too.

Mr Gort's estimate, if anything, is conservative.
 
Wonder if the actually built it? Tomorrow will they fie to go silent?
Application Search Details
File Number: BLED-20130911AAB
Call Sign: KPSV-FM
Facility Id: 174791
FRN: 0017044611
Applicant Name: SOUTH VALLEY PEACE CENTER
Frequency: 91.9
Channel: 220
Community of License: TULARE, CA
Application Type: LICENSE TO COVER
Status: ACCEPTED FOR FILING
Status Date: 09/12/2013
Expiration Date:
 
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