Where is the Center

[Small Market Guy]

You're changing the subject because I'm right. This is why the public has given up on talk radio. Try that technique with your boss, and it'll get you fired.

It's not changing the subject at all. You said the president has repeatedly said he doesn't want to regulate radio, and I gave examples of the president lying. The point is that if he could get away with it, he'd regulate talk radio in a second. He just can't get it done, so it won't get done.

I'm not saying the conservative talk will be replaced by progressive talk or even centrist talk. I'm saying it's ALL going away. A pox on all your houses. You had the chance to do the right thing, and you didn't.

"You have meddled with the primal forces of nature, Mr. Beale... and I won't have it! Is that clear?"

And I'm agreeing with you, but ridiculing your Chicken Little mentality. Talk radio will fade out at some point, but not before all of us are dead. To be honest, the only talk radio I care about is the station I work for, which is making money hand over fist.

 

[TheBigA]

Keep feeding them good news even if there is little to report. Hugs and unicorns and trophies for everyone.

I'm not saying that at all. I'm saying it's all going away. All of it. It's too late to try to fix it. That time is done. Clear Channel, Cumulus, and CBS are all expanding their sports portfolios. Clear Channel just got the Mets and CBS just got the Cubs. Why? Because sports is more fun that bleating goats.

 

[TheBigA]

It's not changing the subject at all. You said the president has repeatedly said he doesn't want to regulate radio, and I gave examples of the president lying.

But you don't actually have a quote where he himself said he wanted to regulate RADIO, do you? But you want to blame him for it. So you're changing the subject. As I said, it's just more bleating goats.

 

[TheBigA]

Talk radio will fade out at some point, but not before all of us are dead.

I give it five years.

 

[Small Market Guy]

I give it five years.

You were probably saying that five yeas go. And ten. And twenty.

 

[flybynight]

I have. You're wrong.



He also repeatedly promised you could keep your health care plan. Or that we don't negotiate with terrorists. Or that he didn't know about the IRS targeting conservative groups. Or that a Youtube video led to the deaths of four Americans in Benghazi. Or that he found out about the VA scandal by watching the news.

Shall I go on?

Look! He just vomited out the -- hit parade! lol

And this guy has the nerve to claim that he's somehow fair and not just another --bot. LOL!

 

[TheBigA]

You were probably saying that five yeas go. And ten. And twenty.

No, in fact FBN will tell you that just six months ago, I thought otherwise. But in the last 6 months, I've been born again.

Talk radio killed itself, by focusing on one message aimed at one shrinking demographic. The great thing about music formats is it can reinvent itself with new releases. Talk radio doesn't have that advantage. The time to reinvent talk radio has already passed. The corporate owners have moved on. I've seen it with my own two eyes.

 

[Small Market Guy]

But you don't actually have a quote where he himself said he wanted to regulate RADIO, do you? But you want to blame him for it. So you're changing the subject. As I said, it's just more bleating goats.

Not him, but his surrogates, like John Podesta, who published a 2007 report when he was with the Center for American Progress urging the FCC to regulate conservative talk radio.

Sorry, but your "bleating goat" crap is just that. Crap. The facts are there. These people would shut conservative talk radio down in a second if they could.

Now WILL it happen? Of course not. But there is plenty of documentation of their desire to do so.

 

[flybynight]

No, in fact FBN will tell you that just six months ago, I thought otherwise. But in the last 6 months, I've been born again.

Talk radio killed itself, by focusing on one message aimed at one shrinking demographic. The great thing about music formats is it can reinvent itself with new releases. Talk radio doesn't have that advantage. The time to reinvent talk radio has already passed. The corporate owners have moved on. I've seen it with my own two eyes.

I have too, sadly.

These companies have decided to go all-in on a direction in the format that is a dead end----and they know it. They'll keep it flying as long as they can squeeze money out of it, then I don't know what. Thanks to the prevalent Wall St. mentality in the business these days, they're not worried about 5 years from now---or even next year.

 

[Small Market Guy]

No, in fact FBN will tell you that just six months ago, I thought otherwise. But in the last 6 months, I've been born again.

Talk radio killed itself, by focusing on one message aimed at one shrinking demographic. The great thing about music formats is it can reinvent itself with new releases. Talk radio doesn't have that advantage. The time to reinvent talk radio has already passed. The corporate owners have moved on. I've seen it with my own two eyes.

It's not like people haven't tried to "reinvent" talk radio. So why do they always fail?

 

[TheBigA]

Not him, but his surrogates, like John Podesta, who published a 2007 report

Who was President in 2007? Was Podesta working for him? No. The government doesn't have to shut down talk radio. The owners are already doing it now. And there are plenty examples of them doing it. I'm sure some goat will then call Clear Channel part of the liberal media elite.

 

[TheBigA]

It's not like people haven't tried to "reinvent" talk radio. So why do they always fail?

Because they suck. As I said, the time for reinvention has passed.

 

[Small Market Guy]

Who was President in 2007? Was Podesta working for him? No. The government doesn't have to shut down talk radio. The owners are already doing it now. And there are plenty examples of them doing it.

Podesta works for the president now. Podesta wants to shut down conservative talk radio. How much more clear do I have to make it?

Yes. I know owners are shutting down talk stations. That happens when there are too many of them and not enough good national hosts. Any market with more than one conservative talk has too many. There just aren't enough good syndicated shows to support how many stations we have now. It doesn't mean the entire format is dying. It's just contracting to its natural size.

In the 90s and early 2000s there was a conservative talk radio bubble. It was unnatural and the market is now correcting itself.

Because they suck. As I said, the time for reinvention has passed.

The alternatives to political talk on AM are Hot Talk, which the outrage machine won't allow, and sports talk, which just there are already too many of and the good ones are moving to AM.

Again, it's not the format that's the problem. It's not the "message" that's the problem. It's the lack of good talent to support it.

 

[flybynight]

It's not like people haven't tried to "reinvent" talk radio. So why do they always fail?

I can tell you firsthand why, as I had a front row seat to it in some large and major markets throughout the 90's:

Management periodically had some good ideas as to not going down the hyper-partisan political ideology road. The problem ALWAYS was, they never had the patience to see it through. Younger, more energetic and entertaining current events talk was the way to go, especially on FM. You're gonna take inital heat for some books during any transition, and even though that was expected, when the poop finally did hit the fan, it was often to much to bear, so they went to the default programming.

Some, particularly CBS, did come up with a grand plan at one point: Howard Stern clones 24/7. They were mostly terrible and it was a major setback for the movement to stay away from the kind of talk we see dying today.

 

[ok walters]

The President has repeatedly said he's opposed to regulations for talk radio. More bleating goats.

The president has said quite a few things that were not true - it is one of his strengths. In 2009, he created a new position at the FCC called the Chief Diversity Officer and appointed a man named Mark Loyd. His duty was to make sure there was a broad diversity of opinion on the radio, while conveniently ignoring the left leaning TV media and newspapers. This year we had the FCC wanting to "look at how news stories are chosen". And now we have a call to consider talk radio "political speech" and try to regulate it like a political campaign. There is no doubt the Obama administration wants to silence talk radio while ignoring those who support him in TV and newspapers.

Bleat, bleat.

 

[TheBigA]

Podesta works for the president now. Podesta wants to shut down conservative talk radio. How much more clear do I have to make it?

Presidential advisors have no effect on Congressional legislation, and no one in Congress or the FCC is going to do what Podesta wants. So why even bring it up? A lot of advisors would love to have jobs bills passed, and that's not happening either. The whole thing is one big cluster, and that's why the people are sick of it. And hearing about it every day on the radio doesn't make it better, and it doesn't make those hosts any more popular.

The format is doing because AM radio listenership is disappearing, and the owners don't want to move talk to FM any more. The only solution the FCC has is to give owners translators, and the owners would rather use those translators for music formats.

 

[Small Market Guy]

Presidential advisors have no effect on Congressional legislation, and no one in Congress or the FCC is going to do what Podesta wants. So why even bring it up?

In case you haven't noticed, these guys don't give two craps what Congress wants. Even the Democrats in the Senate are getting fed up with it.

 

[ok walters]

I'm not saying that at all. I'm saying it's all going away. All of it. It's too late to try to fix it. That time is done. Clear Channel, Cumulus, and CBS are all expanding their sports portfolios. Clear Channel just got the Mets and CBS just got the Cubs. Why? Because sports is more fun that bleating goats.

You said that people are buying more second homes than ever and they want to feel good about their investments, and that I was not helping with my negative talk. Keep feeding them good news even if it isn't true - hugs and unicorns and trophies for everyone.

 

[TheBigA]

There is no doubt the Obama administration wants to silence talk radio while ignoring those who support him in TV and newspapers.

Bleat, bleat.

As Reagan said, there you go again. The Obama administration has two years left. Who will you blame when he's gone? As I said, the Congress makes sure he can't do a thing, and in the meantime, the corporate owners are doing all the work. Nobody has to silence talk radio. Once the audience goes away, it'll silence itself.

 

[ok walters]

Because they suck. As I said, the time for reinvention has passed.

Many have tried, but they all suck - really? Ever think no one was listening? Why is MSNBC the lowest rated talker on TV?