The fact that you're on the air at all says an awful lot about what's wrong with the format.
Conservative talkradio is WAY down in MOST markets, even Dallas, which is saying a lot.
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The fact that you're on the air at all says an awful lot about what's wrong with the format.
Conservative talkradio is WAY down in MOST markets, even Dallas, which is saying a lot.
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Wingnut, Hoss, liar (can't just call someone a liar, need to show specific evidence where they actually posted something in order to specifically be deceptive .. and not just being misinformed)
Those are a couple I have pulled out today as I comb through this thread and get you guys back on track.
You all are intelligent, and articulate in your writing. There is no need to get dirty on a personal level no matter how much you may dislike each other.
Remember everyone is coming to the table with different experiences that are their point of reference for why they believe what they do. That does not make them less of a human than anyone else.
Equality is about giving each other the same respect. If you truly believe in equality, you will adhere to this. Being disrespectful shows you believe the other is inferior and less equal than you.
Physician heal thyself. I've tried to have a civil discussion with you, and this is what you do.
Every fact I've provided proof of you've dismissed. You're constantly calling me a liar. This whole "hosts should tell the truth" also applies to message board posters. That means it applies to you.
The mods seem to be missing some of your insults, but there are so many of them, I can see how they would.
Clean up YOUR act, and maybe we can have a civil discussion. Until then, I'm not going to sit here and allow some keyboard warrior to call me a liar.
As a longtime fan of the show "Bonanza", I am silently protesting your taking of "Hoss" off the table.
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I have gone backwards to page 25 and removed the obvious name calling and some of the inflammatory posts that I originally felt were just childish school yard bullying/flame war type posts. I have decided to crack down for the simple fact that I don't want these types of discussions to degrade further. At some point we (the moderators) have to take some control and cool off the over-heated so this is still welcoming to ALL, not just those who want to spar.
If there is eloquence to the insults, thus hiding it from my own comprehension, then I guess that person wins the point. : ) Feel free to use the "Report this post" feature, but don't abuse it!
FBN, I did go back and forth on "Hoss"... "Jack" was also used and I left it in place. In fairness should I edit out Jack as well? I'll leave that up for consensus.
If there is eloquence to the insults, thus hiding it from my own comprehension, then I guess that person wins the point. : ) Feel free to use the "Report this post" feature, but don't abuse it!
FBN, I did go back and forth on "Hoss"... "Jack" was also used and I left it in place. In fairness should I edit out Jack as well? I'll leave that up for consensus.
If you're going to consider removing "Jack", then you may want to preemptively forbid "Clyde".
But it hasn't happened yet. That's the argument we always get. Because those who support this lunacy are either incapable or unwilling to look into the future.
The president himself said it would be a process that would take 10 or 15 years. The illegal delays in various mandates until after the elections just puts those dates off even further.
And before anyone (you know who) starts crying about sources, here it is from the horse's mouth. Or the horse's ass's mouth, as it were.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kvg8qVKZYuM
By the way. Google owns Youtube. Before the ownership of the source is questioned.
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You are giving me more work to do! : )
WABC had been getting a 3 share 2 years ago with Rush & Hannity. The last Mayor was Republican, and Chris Christie is within earshot. So don't make assumptions about NYC.
I've spent a lot of time there. Lived in Hackensack at one time. New York City is firmly in the grasp of the left. DiBlasio is barely to the right of Castro, by his own admission. Bloomberg was a nanny statist that joined the Republican party to capitalize on the good will that Rudy had. (Even Rudy wasn't very popular until 9/11. The voters only gave him a chance because Dinkins was so bad.) Bloomberg even quit the party once he had his foot in the door at Gracie Mansion.
The numbers they were getting a few years back were the aberration, not what they're getting now. What they're getting now is what they probably should in that market.
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Can I call this guy a LIAR now?
He's making assertions that are entirely UNTRUE. He, as usual, is trying to change facts to suit his hyper-partisan agenda.
The combined share of WOR and WABC is lower now than I've EVER seen it over the last 30 years. WABC itself was in the 3's pretty consistently for years, even landing some 4's and 5's in the past decade, and hasn't been below a 2 share in it's talkradio history.
DO YOUR HOMEWORK before you make such patently untrue statements.
Also, if this example of conservative talk bottoming out is simply to be expected because NYC is such a liberal haven, then HOW do you explain the bottoming out of WBAP/Dallas, which is one of the biggest , mot conservative markets int he country?
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The real issue is in 25-54 where WOR has a 0.7 with the Mets and WABC has a 0.4, right behind WADO.
And yet, as I said before, conservative talk radio was once very popular there. Until recently. The numbers from a few years ago were NOT an "aberration," because they'd getting them for many years. The difference is talk has changed, the audience has aged, and AM has declined.
I don't think talk has changed. At least not Hannity and Rush. The audience HAS aged and AM HAS declined.
You're absolutely right. Talk HAS change a lot in the last 5+ years, since you-know-who was elected. The far right, with the aid of hysterical talkradio, has gone off the deep end, and this has been a MAJOR turnoff for most reasonable listeners, many of whom left the format for good.
You cannot blame this all on sudden aging or a dislike of AM radio. The format has become decidedly shrill in recent years. The only ones who don't see that are the hyper-partisans responsible for destroying the format.
Great. Now he feels somehow vindicated, even though his ilk are the ones killing the format.
Guess what? The drop-off in the talk numbers in recent years has been dramatic, far outpacing aging demos.
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I should clarify.
I don't think Rush has changed within the past 2 or so years. He has changed from the Rush of 1996. He's much more serious than he used to be.
Hannity is the same old repetitive steamroller Hannity.
I don't think Rush has changed within the past 2 or so years. He has changed from the Rush of 1996. He's much more serious than he used to be.
Hannity is the same old repetitive steamroller Hannity.
Except he's not steamrolling anything since he lost Rush as a lead-in on many stations. He's now relegated to many rimshot 2nd & 3rd tier stations, just like progressive talk was. And he's doing about as well. lol
It's all three things, and this is a national trend.
Ask Jeff Foxworthy what happens if he tells the same jokes for more than 2 years. The audience goes away. Rush has been doing the same tired act for a while, and the audience has no reason to tune in any more. Their necks are tired from bobbing up and down all the time. If he has nothing new to say, maybe it's time to take a break.
That's a good point. Not sure I agree, since listeners are creatures of habit. But there could be some of that going on.
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