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Where news radio gets its news

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radiophiler

Did anyone see the full-page ad on the back page of the Inquirer's Style & Soul section today?

It's titled, "Where news radio gets its news."

You can see a shortened version of it at philly.com/teletype

The copy on the page includes this: "Let's face it, you don't need someone to read The Inquirer of the Daily News to you. And if you really need ancient teletype sound in the background while you read, go to philly.com/teletype. It'll play clacking in the background while you enjoy the real news sources in the region ... the Inquirer, the Daily News and philly.com."

Hm. This, just two days after KYW 1060 reported that Inquirer CEO and publisher Brian Tierney took a $250,000 pay raise just two months ago, as Philly's major newspapers were headed toward a bankruptcy filing. Is this payback from Tierney?

KYW should be feeling pretty proud about this. What a bunch of sore losers at the Inquirer.
 
radiophiler said:
Did anyone see the full-page ad on the back page of the Inquirer's Style & Soul section today?

It's titled, "Where news radio gets its news."

You can see a shortened version of it at philly.com/teletype

The copy on the page includes this: "Let's face it, you don't need someone to read The Inquirer of the Daily News to you. And if you really need ancient teletype sound in the background while you read, go to philly.com/teletype. It'll play clacking in the background while you enjoy the real news sources in the region ... the Inquirer, the Daily News and philly.com."

Hm. This, just two days after KYW 1060 reported that Inquirer CEO and publisher Brian Tierney took a $250,000 pay raise just two months ago, as Philly's major newspapers were headed toward a bankruptcy filing. Is this payback from Tierney?

KYW should be feeling pretty proud about this. What a bunch of sore losers at the Inquirer.
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So you say you don't read the newspaper anymore? Yes you do. Maybe not the one that comes to your driveway but you are reading the newspaper. Most of the news content on the internet comes from newspapers, or it comes from the Associated Press, which is mostly supported by newspapers. The rest is blogs: People commenting on stories generated by newspapers.
Television and radio? A large part of the daily news cycle you see or hear is from the paper. Newspapers have always been the report card for broadcast. If your radio station has a story and the newspaper picks it up the next day, that's an A-plus because it legitimized your news coverage. Newspapers are where the bulk of original reporting happens. You wanna see an even less-informed public? Get rid of newspapers, and that's exactly what'll happen without a new business model (because the old one don't work no more).

Disclosure: I do not work for a newspaper.
 
The ad has been running in the Inquirer way before the news about the bankruptcy filing was announced. There is alot of truth in the ad. Many times KYW will lead with a story that is on the Inky's front page and elaborate with person on the street reaction. And alot of their sports news on personell moves involving the local teams comes right out of the Inquirer or Daily News sports sections. and about KYW being proud...Their parent company is not in the best financial shape either.
 
IMO there will still be a place somewhere, somehow, for the good ol' fashioned print newspaper, especially for

a) those who cannot afford a home pc and internet connection,
and
b) those who can find the time and money for a pc and pc/internet lessons, but choose not to.

My father, a retired schoolteacher, fits category b). When I mail to him, it's still the snail variety exclusively. As for the fate of snail mail, well, that's another thread.

ixnay
 
I can tell you from personal experience that a lot of story ideas that you hear on NPR come from newspapers. Print or online. And quite often, the print reporters end up doing radio interviews with NPR hosts on those stories. And yet somehow, NPR wins all the big journalism awards.
 
TheBigA said:
I can tell you from personal experience that a lot of story ideas that you hear on NPR come from newspapers. Print or online.
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Seems a lot of story ideas heard on WDEL and WILM come from the Snooze Journal. Heck, I don't mind, I'm just a Wilmington radio listener (during commutes). It gives me a(nother) reason to look in the NJ when I get to work. :)
And quite often, the print reporters end up doing radio interviews with NPR hosts on those stories.
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WDEL's (formerly WILM's) Allan Loudell will sometimes interview someone from the Wash. Post, WSJ, Wash. Times, Roll Call, politico.com, etc. during afternoon drive.
And yet somehow, NPR wins all the big journalism awards.
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And somehow, WDEL wins all the Delmarva regional journalism hardware too. ???

ixnay
 
Ixnay,

If it seems like a lot of our stories come from the newspaper, it's because they're news stories. Our reporters are covering the same stories as the newspaper reporters. We receive the same press releases and e-mails that they do.

Do we receive stories from The Associated Press that are generated from newspaper stories? Yes, but we pay for that service. And I would estimate those stories make up just a fraction of our overall news product. (I would also add that WDEL is a big contributer to the AP, and the newspaper has gotten story ideas from us - especially our talk show hosts.)

How do we win so many awards? I'll invite you to tag along some day and see how it works. You'll find that, yes we receive the newspaper, but it largely goes ignored. We DO NOT crack open the newspaper to determine what stories we want to cover. In fact, my staff has heard me say quite often, "It's in the newspaper? Then it's old. Let's find a new story."
 
Chris Carl is correct. I worked part time at WILM for seven years as a reporter, news anchor, and talk show host. We too received the same press releases that WDEL and the News Journal did. WILM also paid for the AP news service that did provide some of the national and international news stories used in our news broadcasts (we also used our radio network feeds, originally CBS later Fox, to also get national and international stories).

There is one big difference between radio news and the newspaper. A radio news story is limited by time, at WILM back when I was there the time limit allowed for a news story was approximately 40 seconds including the sound byte. We'd do three versions of a story, but each was approximately 40 seconds long. With three versions, you could get a different angle or add more detail, use a different sound byte, etc as you built the story from the first and second versions. The newspaper can devote more space allowing for more details.

Radio generally gives you an overview of a story and the newspaper gives you the details. Radio can get the news to you almost instantiously where, as Chris noted, that by time you read that news story in the paper, its old.

NPR, being the exception with their Morning Edition or All Things Considered broadcasts as those are news magazines rather than a newscast like WDEL, WILM, or KYW broadcast so they have the time allowment to go into more detail than the typical radio newscast.
 
I get a chuckle when a paper covers a story, accompanied by a photo taken off the TV. Like aerial views of police arrests, disasters. The local Station did the video collection, the paper takes a pic of a TV screen, then credits it as a "Staff Photo". That sword of borrowing news works both ways.

Besides, an AP story is exactly worded the same whether to a radio or paper newsroom. The difference is the paper can use the longform story.
 
kinetic said:
So you say you don't read the newspaper anymore? Yes you do. Maybe not the one that comes to your driveway but you are reading the newspaper. Most of the news content on the internet comes from newspapers, or it comes from the Associated Press, which is mostly supported by newspapers. The rest is blogs: People commenting on stories generated by newspapers.
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Kinetic,

Is someone reading a book when (s)he reads a quote from that book that appears on the internet (or in a newspaper or magazine)? IOW, Kinetic, does your statement quoted at the beginning of this post hold true for any print-originated medium whose content finds its way to the 'net?

ixnay

P.S. And re newsrags, read what Denver's mourners of the RMN had to say about its folding and their own takes on the newspaper industry on the link accompanying my contribution to http://boards.radio-info.com/smf/index.php/topic,121408.0.html .

ixnay
 
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