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Where's Mel Myers?

Mel's done mornings on Star 103 for... how many years?

Before that it was Z104.5; before that 14K/92K. Before that, KMOD.

Now I don't hear him in the mornings on Star and his info is gone from the personalities page; he's still on the schedule, but I'm hearing Andy Barber all morning (not that there's anything wrong with that!) and Chris Kelly in the afternoons before Wavy.

Is it just vacation w/ website info removed? Did The Sound steal him away? Did Mel retire? Seems kinda young for that...

"...I've been on Tulsa radio for a long time & the reason is because I like the place, & I like the people... and I'm DEFINITELY... gonna miss 'ya..." -- Mel Myers, August 17th, 1985
 
Mel, Keith Marlow and Bill Bromley-KRMG sales manager-all fell victom to budget cuts last Friday.

Stinks.
 
WOW... I know Keith had pretty much become Hunter's right-hand man, and Mel... how do you let go of Mel? And the sales manager? As in, "your source of income?"

Rhenda's KBEZ laid off Ms. Lewis from middays & has Carly Rush voicetracking after her morning co-hosting duties... Shamrock has been laying off people... Clear Channel made those recent big cuts...

As John Cafferty & The Beaver Brown Band said in their other hit (that nobody plays, ah-HEM):

Well, he's drinking at the bar
Down by the old boat yard
He sits and he talks to strangers
The factory laid him off
and life's been getting hard
It's enough to make a good man bad

He's got that look in his eye
There's just no words to say
It's tough to swallow your pride
Each and every day

Well, all over and all over
Things are tough all over
Well, all over and all over
Things, things are tough all over...
 
...And today in the Tulsa World classifieds section I discover a full-time opening at KRMG?!?

Why didn't somebody offer THAT to Mel, to at least keep him in the building??

You might think he wouldn't take it... but these are desperate times... what's the harm in asking?

Don't know what you've got, til it's gone...
 
Disgusting. That's the only way to describe today's broadcaster. Who the hell fires Mel Myers? I used to think of Cox as a slightly better broadcaster. Apperently they aren't any more. This industry better get it's sh#t together and figure out what they are trying to sell sucks so bad it's not even funny soon. Eliminating people like Mel only worsens the product and will get less beans for the bean counters. Why is it that it's always the TALENT that gets wiped out anyway? Aren't they the ones that the public tunes into and therefore provides something to sell? Well in this case, they even canned the guy that DOES sell. I don't know him, but my guess is he's probably another vet like Mel and shouldn't have been the one to leave. Sounds like they were after people that made a decent living. Damn beancounters. I sincerly hope these corporate guys get around to going chapter 7 sooner than later. The only way this industry will get better is if they do. Firing Mel Myers... Who does that!? Hey Mel. You DO know what Tulsa wants to hear. Too bad the beancounters are too damn stupid to know that.
 
Mel's been around Tulsa a lot of years. Since he's competent and likely over 50 he's an excellent candidate for elimination. Quality doesn't matter anymore. There are no longer 20, 30, 40 stations in a town...there are three or four, depending on how many companies control the cluster. Why be good when there's no real competition? No one to force you to get better? The problem isn't that radio management spends too much...they don't bring in enough. Can't deal with new media and cable/sat TV channel proliferation. Believe that generating revenue is as simple as sending enough eye candy into businesses. Owners don't part with their money that easily anymore.
 
I just now read this.

I need to make it a point to get on this board more often.

Sheesh. I feel like I came late to the funeral. Holy crud.

I'm surprised at how angry this news actually makes me.
 
It's just a shame the industry doesn't see that showing pros like Mel the door is EXACTLY why the industry is in the horrible shape it is in. Radio has become irrelivent not due to emerging technologies but because of it's own stupidity. I'll say it again. The quicker Mc corporate goes fing broke the quicker the industry will heal. Cox is obviously just another McCorporate these days. Who fires Mel Myers. Geezze!
 
To add to my personal disgust in the matter, I hear K95.5FM tonight airing a spot promoting buying advertising on Cox Radio Tulsa...

...VOICED BY MEL MYERS...

"...Screw you, we're kicking you to the curb... but we'll keep using your voice to promote our stations..."

Sure, they have the legal right; morally I think it's DISGUSTING.
 
I've listened to Mel for years from Arkansas. He's great. Couldn't believe it when I didn't "hear" him. I'll miss him and hopefully will be able to pick him up on another station soon.
 
ngoodwin said:
I've listened to Mel for years from Arkansas. He's great. Couldn't believe it when I didn't "hear" him. I'll miss him and hopefully will be able to pick him up on another station soon.

I think he would sound great on The Sound. He has a history with Shamrock, so it should be a good fit.
 
Mel on 94.1 The Sound would be AMAZING, but I don't know how they could bring him on without getting rid of somebody else. The less said about that, the better; I don't wish that on ANYBODY.

Unrelated, I've been listening to "Nights With Alice Cooper" over his Tucson affiliate, KLPX.

Star 103 ought to pick him up for nights...

Actually, Rock 102.3 ought to pick him up, but I guess that was two stations ago...

I think it's too hard for The Sound, a little too modern for Star, too classic for KMOD... but SOMEBODY still ought to grab it! It's market-exclusive, & barter (7 min / hr optional local avails).

http://www.unitedstations.com/usrnweb/pages/content/nightswithalicecooper/details.asp
 
Rumor has it that the GM has been putting the blame for Mel's firing on Bob Neal in Atlanta.

It seems odd that he would get involved in a local management issue like that, but maybe so.

Or... maybe that's a manager just trying to appease the masses who were NOT happy that Mel was fired.

Others point to Neal being a big fan of Barber from way back, which would certainly help explain who was picked & why. I've also heard it suggested that Atlanta likes to micro-manage their stations... so why wouldn't it have come from the top?

If Mel was costing more than Andy, on a spreadsheet it looks more reasonable to get rid of Mel.

Who made the final call? And why? There's sure a lot of finger pointing, but not a lot of answers...

(FWIW, I am NOT against Andy. I like him on the air, & I like him as a person. If you had to get rid of somebody, I would have voted "neither." How about cutting all those corporate perks, locally AND nationally? Nah... that would make sense!)

SOMEBODY is going to pick up Mel... and then they are going to beat Cox over the head with him! :)
 
Nightaire. Why do you have so many bad things to say about all of the major broadcasters in the market? What did they do to make you mad? I cannot imagine that they are all bad. What do you do for a living? Are you a consultant or a engineer?
 
KXODJ,

You ask a reasonable question; I hope to give a reasonable answer.

I'm in radio right now, 1st off... on the air, working at a station which still understands the value of a personality & the importance of connecting with the listener. Because my views on this board do not represent the opinions of the station I work for, its staff or management, I choose not to identify the station. Some here know me... there's not much I can do about that.

2nd, i LOVE the guys & gals on the air in Tulsa, the production people, many of the music directors & program directors. Many of them were my idols growing up, & my passion and admiration for them and their talents have only increased as I've gotten the honor to know some of them.

3rd, it is my opinion, & I am far from alone in this opinion, that what is killing radio's audience & profits today is not technology, but corporate fear of shareholders, which has lead to apathy.

When times were good, upper management bought themselves all the perks they believed went with being grand owners of broadcast chains. Now that times are bad, it's hard to give up the fancy living. It's easier, in fact, to dump faceless "staff" because you can then tell the shareholders you're "doing something." It's happened to Mel. It's happened to Charlene Lewis. It's happened to me!

There are good people... no, GREAT people, still in the trenches here in Tulsa... slaving day in & day out at a job that at one time made them happier than anything in the world. Now they feel moments of that former joy, but more often than not it's "keep your head down & execute whatever corporate says today... no matter how much I know it's the wrong approach." They live in fear that, no matter how good they are, it could be their head next on the chopping block. And, because so few companies own the stations & they're all in the same financial boat, getting another job could be darn near impossible.

That's why we've lost so many greats over the years to computer technology, real estate, & other "saner" industries.

I've mentioned before stations I admire so I won't do that again, but I'm a BIG believer that radio would see a lot more money & a lot more listeners if the FCC went back to limiting the number of stations any corporation could own. Stocks would plummet... but how much further could they fall, really? Have you looked at your portfolio lately? There would be massive sell-offs of stations, at great loss...

...But when the industry recovered, you would have individual owners with a handful of stations, in the biz because they have that fire underneath them, doing creative radio even if they're worried the paychecks may not clear this week... no, BECAUSE they are worried about the payroll.

You see, corporate ownership came about not out of a love for radio, but out of a love for money. Some do better than others, but none (that I've seen) put radio FIRST. Individual owners would only get into this goofy game BECAUSE they love radio. I believe the audiences would grow & as a result advertising would improve... and at the risk of sounding like the ending of a fairy-tale, advertisers getting results from a large radio audience would boost the economy as a whole!

I'm angry at the corporate owners of stations in Tulsa because they've not only destroyed two broadcast bands which used to be full of compelling, entertaining content... but because they've hurt my friends & smothered our radio stars.

Not all radio corporations in Tulsa are all bad. Like individuals, there are good and bad in almost all of them. Some are better than others. But all have to answer to stockholders who care absolutely nothing about the listeners of Tulsa, or the talent who used to entertain them. Those holding the purse strings require short term decisions which are doing long-term damage.

I actually don't feel that I bad-mouth Tulsa broadcasters that much. Rather, to paraphrase Fox News:

I report.

YOU decide.
 
Although I agree with the general feeling in your e-mail about some good people being forced out of the business, I have a few discrepancies.

Most of the Tulsa stations are not owned by publicly traded companies. Renda, Shamrock, Perry, Stephens, Clearchannel and Cox are all private companies. (although some may argue on the Clearchannel private equity deal.) Journal is a public company, but they only control three of the Tulsa station. I agree 100% with you that Wall Street had no idea how radio worked and was the major cause of some of the problems that we are all dealing with right now. Then, there is the economy in general. Perfect storm for many industries right now. BAD!

I do believe that radio will survive and will have to adopt and accept new delivery platforms. I also believe that those who are in the business, come back to the business, or join the business will have to accept change. Just ask anyone in the banking, airline or any other major company. We are coming out of the recession, and things will never be the same.

We have have to work better and work smarter. Most of the people that I hear complaining are those that liked it the way it was in the 80s. Do a shift, do some production and go home. Now, most of the survivors have a lot to do and wear many hats. Some handle it well, and some do not.

I would like to know of any perfect job or perfect company. Most of us are happy with a good to very good company.

Mr. NightAire, you appear to have a huge knowledge of our industry. I just hope that you are part of the solution and not part of the problem. Are you helping to mentor and train new people? Are you helping your employees and/or supervisor to do good things for the industry? Do you understand that we are in showbusiness? (and in the word showbusiness, is the word BUSINESS?) We are here to make money.

I am not coming down on you personally, but instead of getting upset every time someone is beaten down by THE MAN, how about some good insight on how we can all do better? How we can improve the business?

Nobody is out to get you. If you were fired, layed off, etc...was it ever your fault? We have all worked for jerks, but I cannot believe that you have never worked for or with a good manager.

Sounds like you are at a good place now. Work hard. Make your boss look good and help them make money. (and do good radio!)
 
Thanks for the reply, KXODJ.

Perry & Stephens are indeed private companies who, for better or worse (mostly for better) have carved their own path. To me, they're a couple of the "good guys."

The other companies you've mentioned either were public, or have divided interests. There was a time that diversifying was a good thing for the financial well-being for a company (still is). However, if you have to rob Peter to pay Paul (such as failing stations in other markets, failing newspapers, massive debt load, etc.) that is no solution. You end up dragging the entire company down.

The bad economy has taking a barely workable situation for radio groups & made it IMPOSSIBLE. They were treading water before; now they are drowning.

Radio's survival, is, as you said, related to creating entertaining content to deliver over whatever medium. While it is going to be a while, I believe eventually radio will "leave" AM & FM because once wireless internet is widely adopted it will be more cost-effective to stream worldwide than to a 90 mile circle.

As I stated in my previous post, I believe radio will see success when we see total failure. What I mean is, when the national companies are forced to have "fire sales" on their stations, & local or regional groups buy the stations. At the risk of sounding melodramatic, I picture it a bit like the phoenix from the flames.

I'd like to think radio will be older, wiser... there are certainly things to be learned from having been pulled into the corporate environment after years of "the wild west." Hopefully hiring & firing will be more even-handed, most stations are now non-smoking, & I'd HOPE there will be less underage girls under the console. :)

I would disagree that wearing a variety of hats is good change for radio. How much attention can you pay to any one responsibility with a hundred things nipping at your heels? I have no problem with a variety of job responsibilities, but these days staff are being squeezed to do more and more with less staff and no pay increase (or pay cuts!) and the result is jobs that are "good enough" because a person can only be stretched so far.

I know of no perfect job or perfect company. However, the owners of these stations can do a LOT better. The 1st way would be to let their program directors PROGRAM. Let their music directors direct their music. Let their production directors image the station(s). And let the jocks be personalities! The talent is there, just waiting to be mined.

It drives me CRAZY that WSB & KRMG sound almost identical, both with live team coverage, depend on it. It drives me crazy that KMOD's website looks just like every other rock station's website that Clear Channel owns. The national broadcast networks are struggling against cable & satellite... so let's be MORE like them? How does THAT make sense?

All the experts are saying "localization, personalization" and the radio owners are taking a cookie-cutter, one size fits all approach to their stations. Why? Because it's cheaper right now. In the end, I believe it will cost them heavily.

You asked if I mentor & train. When I have the opportunity, yes. Actually, when I was new in radio, I trained my then girlfriend to run a radio station! :) She wouldn't have won any awards, but she got passable. Since then I've worked with both old & new staff, to train those who has never been in a station before to improving those who have been at this for some time, to learning from those who make me sound like a newbie myself. I work both to train those in broadcast radio, & I'm training up new staff to work in internet radio as well.

I am very proud of what my station is doing. Every day I feel lucky to be able to reach listeners the way great stations of the past have. Not to say I'm of that quality, but I'm creating that connection that got me excited about the biz in the 1st place. There is no bigger rush... and I have the feeling we're just getting started.

You ask if I understand radio is a business. Perhaps I have not been clear.

I would NEVER suggest any station, announcer, etc do anything "for the art of radio" alone.

What I am suggesting is that good radio "art" will make stations MONEY. Yes, this is a business, but radio is not something people need, so it's not like selling meat or milk or another staple. Radio is a want, so you have to make people want it. That has been corporate's goal, don't get me wrong, but their processes have led to APATHY which kills any media.

Imagine if American Idol was just inoffensive? Why would anyone bother to watch?

For radio to make the big bucks again, it has to be compelling. I'm certain there are ways to use research, share resources, etc to help create compelling, income-generating content... I'm arguing the current processes are NOT working. Just because a song doesn't annoy somebody doesn't mean they'll tune in for it. Just because they're aware of a national talk show host doesn't mean they'll tune in. To make the big bucks, radio programming can't be so darned passive! Corporate has to learn to accept that if you're going to play something people love, some people are going to hate it... and that's OK. If nobody cares either way, they'll never tune in.

That's one thing talk radio got RIGHT in the early 80s. Conservative political talk is polarizing... but at least people CARE. And the numbers reflect it. KRMG is on top right now I believe because people care about the content. Doesn't it bother you that popular music with local hosts doesn't beat national syndicated talk that only appeals to a certain segment of the audience? The reason is passion. Period.

I don't believe there's much the local people can do, unless we win the lottery. The only way to keep your job is to do what you're told. It's the golden rule, he who has the gold makes the rules. Mainly I talk about this to vent, and perhaps to say to others in the biz, "you're not crazy; I agree with you."

Oh, sure I've gotten myself fired! I've also quit, sometimes in dramatic fashion, which felt good at the time but thoroughly burned a bridge for all time; I can't recommend it. What I was referring to was layoffs where my boss had NO desire to let me go but was informed by the higher-ups that the budget was to be cut... and I was the part of the budget they were looking to trim.

My boss didn't want to get rid of me, and corporate didn't know who I was. All they knew was on a spreadsheet they were bleeding money, so make it work with less. It was my boss's problem to figure out how to make it work without me. He did of course, because like I said Tulsa radio people are talented people... but has the product suffered? I think my former boss would say yes, although I don't know that for a fact.

HE was a great boss. My boss before that was an all-out jerk, no question about it. I don't have enough bad words for him... and it's not been just me, I hear that from past & present employees. They go through staff like rain there. Before him I had a boss who lied to me about what the other owners wanted, so that wasn't much fun... although it forced me "across the street" to another GREAT boss who really "got" the idea of compelling radio making him money.

Before that, I had a boss who I worked for, for seven years. He was a good boss, & a good friend. The station bored me to tears, but that wasn't his fault. :) I had another boss briefly (before full-time opened) who others had problems with, but I got along with just fine.

Before that, I had a boss who regularly came into the station late at night, disappeared into his office for 30 min, & came out wearing sunglasses... hm...

Then a boss who told me I had to shave my mustache or I couldn't tell anybody I worked there(?!?). Before that, a boos who I loved but he let me go & to this day I'm still not sure why. At my first radio gig, the station went DARK so there weren't a lot of options to keep working there. :)

My current boss is very, very good. Perfect? Of course not. I'm CERTAIN he would say the same thing about me. ;-) I'm very lucky to be working who I'm looking for.

Every day I do my best to do good radio... & my hope is that I will make myself & my boss very, very rich. (Hasn't happened yet... heh...)

I, too would love to hear how we could better communicate to corporate owners of stations what we believe would increase their income without putting our own heads on the chopping block. Ideas?
 
I hate to hear that about Mel. He is the best around and I'm sure he has the hookups to keep on rockin' someplace else. Ya never know what station will flip next and find Mel! I hope so. Mel has always been a real jewel to me and my family. I wish Mel the best. Sorry to hear about Keith as well. Oh, and now I'm hearng Charlene on KRMG. So things are changing. The I-Pod doesn't help and it's only just begun.
 
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