Can anyone tells me that WHGH-AM 840 still on the air or gone for good? I read some where that WHGH-AM 840 delete from the FCC database back in April 16 2012. now its listed Defunct. They were on the air a few weeks ago. if that the case WHGH-AM is detele then maybe WPAX 1240 can pick up WHGH's tower and makes WPAX-AM 1240 a 10,000 watts than a weak 1,000 watts daytime. Right now WHGH is off the air on saturday July 7th 2012.
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WHGH-AM 840 Thomasville Ga
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Wow..i used to work there..i hope thats not the case
WPAX can not go higher than 1KW. They are a Class "C" channel station and 1,000 watts is the highest the FCC will allow on that frequency. The frequency would have to change for an upgrade
I *think* that's what Louis is suggesting: that WPAX take over WHGH's old facilities on 840.
The problem is, the 840 facility is a daytimer -- a station operating on that frequency is not allowed to operate at night. (not even the minimal dozen or two watts allowed to most Class D stations)
WPAX could apply to move from 1240 to 840, increasing its daytime power. The FCC would probably grant it. However, WPAX would then lose any authority to operate at night. There are a couple of ways they could address that:
- FM translator. I see two translators authorized to operate in the 92-108 commercial band (101.9 & 103.7); WPAX might buy one of these & use it to relay their new 840 AM signal. The translator may remain on the air after the AM signs off at sunset, as long as the AM has operated in the last 24 hours. The translators are a bit wimpy (103.7 is 35 watts, 101.9 is weaker) so the night coverage won't be very good unless an upgrade is possible.
- Relicense AM 1240, so they could hold *both* frequencies. 1240 has poorer coverage but can operate at night, which 840 can't. WPAX could apply to move their existing station to 840. 1240 would then be deleted -- but WPAX would immediately apply to reauthorize 1240, as a completely new station, with the same technical facilities it already has. (they can't apply for a completely new station on 840, because the FCC no longer accepts applications for new Class D stations.) WPAX would have to compete for 1240 with other potential applicants. Someone else might get their old frequency, in which case WPAX would lose all authority to operate at night. Also, I'm not familiar with the duopoly situation in Thomasville; it may not be permissible for the same firm to own both AM stations.
- Modify the 1240 license to specify split operation, using 840 during the day & 1240 at night. There *is* one such split-frequency operation in the U.S.; a station near Detroit uses 690 during the day & 680 at night. I don't see anything in FCC regulations specifically prohibiting such a thing. On the other hand, there's a significant difference between the Detroit operation and a 840/1240 Thomasville split: the Detroit station uses two adjacent frequencies. In Thomasville, an 840/1240 split would tie up two frequencies for one station. My gut feeling is the FCC wouldn't approve it.
In any of these cases, WPAX would have to wait for a filing window. This could take years. It would then take more years for the FCC to act on the applications filed.
I need to note.. that there is essentially zero chance WPAX could be licensed as a fulltime station on 840 -- zero chance they could operate 24 hours on the old WHGH frequency. There's a Class A station on 840 in Louisville, Kentucky. This station is entitled to protection of its nighttime *skywave* coverage area -- and Thomasville is located well within this area.
The problem is, the 840 facility is a daytimer -- a station operating on that frequency is not allowed to operate at night. (not even the minimal dozen or two watts allowed to most Class D stations)
WPAX could apply to move from 1240 to 840, increasing its daytime power. The FCC would probably grant it. However, WPAX would then lose any authority to operate at night. There are a couple of ways they could address that:
- FM translator. I see two translators authorized to operate in the 92-108 commercial band (101.9 & 103.7); WPAX might buy one of these & use it to relay their new 840 AM signal. The translator may remain on the air after the AM signs off at sunset, as long as the AM has operated in the last 24 hours. The translators are a bit wimpy (103.7 is 35 watts, 101.9 is weaker) so the night coverage won't be very good unless an upgrade is possible.
- Relicense AM 1240, so they could hold *both* frequencies. 1240 has poorer coverage but can operate at night, which 840 can't. WPAX could apply to move their existing station to 840. 1240 would then be deleted -- but WPAX would immediately apply to reauthorize 1240, as a completely new station, with the same technical facilities it already has. (they can't apply for a completely new station on 840, because the FCC no longer accepts applications for new Class D stations.) WPAX would have to compete for 1240 with other potential applicants. Someone else might get their old frequency, in which case WPAX would lose all authority to operate at night. Also, I'm not familiar with the duopoly situation in Thomasville; it may not be permissible for the same firm to own both AM stations.
- Modify the 1240 license to specify split operation, using 840 during the day & 1240 at night. There *is* one such split-frequency operation in the U.S.; a station near Detroit uses 690 during the day & 680 at night. I don't see anything in FCC regulations specifically prohibiting such a thing. On the other hand, there's a significant difference between the Detroit operation and a 840/1240 Thomasville split: the Detroit station uses two adjacent frequencies. In Thomasville, an 840/1240 split would tie up two frequencies for one station. My gut feeling is the FCC wouldn't approve it.
In any of these cases, WPAX would have to wait for a filing window. This could take years. It would then take more years for the FCC to act on the applications filed.
I need to note.. that there is essentially zero chance WPAX could be licensed as a fulltime station on 840 -- zero chance they could operate 24 hours on the old WHGH frequency. There's a Class A station on 840 in Louisville, Kentucky. This station is entitled to protection of its nighttime *skywave* coverage area -- and Thomasville is located well within this area.
Yeah WHTH-AM 840 is back on the air today than all day saturday but im cousfed then why the fcc is detele AM-840 Thomasville while they still on the air?
On April 11th of this year the FCC said
DWHGH 25773 HGH INVESTMENTS CORP.
840 KHZ GA , THOMASVILLE
LIC. TO COVER (BP-860501AC) FOR NEW AM STN.
License cancelled and callsign deleted 4/6/2012 per letter
GA BL-19880329AC
On April 11th of this year the FCC said
DWHGH 25773 HGH INVESTMENTS CORP.
840 KHZ GA , THOMASVILLE
LIC. TO COVER (BP-860501AC) FOR NEW AM STN.
License cancelled and callsign deleted 4/6/2012 per letter
GA BL-19880329AC
I've worked really hard to try and improve the AM signal on WPAX. The tough part is that our tower (built in the early 30's), is now surrounded by a paved parking lot...so I can't just dig up and replace the ground radials. We've done the best we can with what we have to work with, and yes...I think the signal has improved some. Also, adding the 103.7mhz translator was a big boost for the station, and really helped people that live outside the city limits but like listening to baseball or football at night.
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