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Which FM station is most likely to flip next?

DavidEduardo said:
Just a reminder that in radio terms Quincy is "in Boston" because radio operates on a market basis, not a city basis.

"Boston" in the radio world is the aggregate of Essex, Middlesex, Norfolk, Plymouth, Suffolk, Worcester* counties in MA and Hillsborough County in NH. If the city of license of a station is in any of those counties, it is "in Boston".

* Note: Worcester County is one of just a few in the US that has a portion in each of two markets.
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Retro made a mistake. The translator licensed to Quincy that he was referring to is at 102.1, not 92.1.
 
Eli Polonsky said:
WAAF's move from Paxton to Boylston apparently looked good on paper for signal improvement in Boston, but as we heard, in reality it didn't work, and they lost coverage north, west, or south of Worcester, but they weren't doing any significant billing in those directions beyond Worcester anyway compared to the potential in metro Boston. However, EMF's move of the main transmitter to Hudson, at even lower power than Boylston but a bit closer to Boston from a taller tower, did noticeably improve the 107.3 signal in metro Boston even before they got the boosters on the air. It's definitely covering parts of metro Boston where the low power translators may not reach better than Paxton ever did, and still covering the Worcester/Central MA market even if no longer much farther inland from there.
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With the change in coverage of the former WAAF/now WKVB, I'm surprised that Townsquare/WFHN Fairhaven hasn't pounced and tried to at least "un-directional" its signal. Currently, its signal is nulled quite a bit toward the northwest in the direction of the former WAAF transmitter. Unless I'm missing something, like a pesky translator that's recently popped up, there should be an opening for WFHN to non-directional, and better its signal in communities like Fall River, Taunton, and maybe even Providence.

Jacko
 
Jacko said:
With the change in coverage of the former WAAF/now WKVB, I'm surprised that Townsquare/WFHN Fairhaven hasn't pounced and tried to at least "un-directional" its signal. Currently, its signal is nulled quite a bit toward the northwest in the direction of the former WAAF transmitter. Unless I'm missing something, like a pesky translator that's recently popped up, there should be an opening for WFHN to non-directional, and better its signal in communities like Fall River, Taunton, and maybe even Providence.

Jacko
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At last check, they were #1 in the New Bedford Market.
 
Retro said:
At last check, they were #1 in the New Bedford Market.
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Of course, there is no "New Bedford" market. Bristol County, MA, is part of the Providence, RI, MSA.
 
Retro said:
It just might be once the Commuter Rail starts service there within the next 2 years.
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Show me anywhere where commuter rail has expanded to in the last 20 years where it has made one bit of difference, outside of putting the MBTA further into debt?

How is that Plymouth station working out for them?

With "work from home" being the new normal, either full or part time, the number of people commuting to Boston is going to fall.

Companies are finding that productivity is not adversely effected by working from home

Companies are finding that they don't need huge office spaces in pricey places anymore when people work from home, they reduce the number of sq feet they lease or sell large buildings and lease smaller spaces with shared work spaces for when people do come in to the office.

Just to go from Middleborough to Boston, which is less than half the distance of a New Bedford to Boston trip is an hour... on a good day.... and the MBTA has very few of those.

People are not going to spend 4 hours a day on a train commuting to Boston for a job.

and nobody is commuting to New Bedford from Boston to work
 
MRBIboredop said:
Show me anywhere where commuter rail has expanded to in the last 20 years where it has made one bit of difference, outside of putting the MBTA further into debt?

How is that Plymouth station working out for them?

With "work from home" being the new normal, either full or part time, the number of people commuting to Boston is going to fall.

Companies are finding that productivity is not adversely effected by working from home

Companies are finding that they don't need huge office spaces in pricey places anymore when people work from home, they reduce the number of sq feet they lease or sell large buildings and lease smaller spaces with shared work spaces for when people do come in to the office.

Just to go from Middleborough to Boston, which is less than half the distance of a New Bedford to Boston trip is an hour... on a good day.... and the MBTA has very few of those.

People are not going to spend 4 hours a day on a train commuting to Boston for a job.

and nobody is commuting to New Bedford from Boston to work
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My supervisor commutes daily from Acushnet near Fall River to Boston.
 
CTListener said:
One quickly learns never to say "never" on these forums because someone will always come up with one example to prove you wrong.
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This is the classic case of the exception making the rule. If you have to search long and hard to find the rare exceptional case, it means that for all practical purposes, the assumption is correct.
 
DavidEduardo said:
This is the classic case of the exception making the rule. If you have to search long and hard to find the rare exceptional case, it means that for all practical purposes, the assumption is correct.
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"Practically nobody" or "almost never" closes the door on that fallacy every time,
 
CTListener said:
"Practically nobody" or "almost never" closes the door on that fallacy every time,
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Perhaps this has changed, however just as recently as last year, New Bedford/Falk River was their own market, ranking #179.

https://ratings.****************/content/arb365
 
Retro said:
Perhaps this has changed, however just as recently as last year, New Bedford/Falk River was their own market, ranking #179.
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I am not positive, but I think that NB/FR was an embedded market: part of Providence but given a separate report as long as there were radio subscribers. "Long Island" is a similar situation... part of the NYC market but also issued as a separate report.
 
DavidEduardo said:
I am not positive, but I think that NB/FR was an embedded market: part of Providence but given a separate report as long as there were radio subscribers. "Long Island" is a similar situation... part of the NYC market but also issued as a separate report.
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Yes, but FWIW, Providence used to be their own individual market.
 
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